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bocca001 07-07-2021 07:06 PM

I'd say that is maybe PPIE for Panama Pacific International Exposition (1915).

ooo-ribay 07-07-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2121004)
I'd say that is maybe PPIE for Panama Pacific International Exposition (1915).

Hmmmm. Could be...

ChiefBeef 07-09-2021 05:43 PM

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Repost to see if anyone can answer. I have seen this pennant in several threads and online resources. It is not listed in Mike Enger's book (2013 version) in this red field color. It is shown in his book with the field of the pennant grayy.

Any info would be appreciated. I attached the picture again of mine.

Thanks for the consideration.

thetahat 07-09-2021 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBeef (Post 2121611)
Repost to see if anyone can answer. I have seen this pennant in several threads and online resources. It is not listed in Mike Enger's book (2013 version) in this red field color. It is shown in his book with the field of the pennant grayy.

Any info would be appreciated. I attached the picture again of mine.

Thanks for the consideration.

Cool pennant. These tend to fade easy. This is from a pennant company we haven’t identified as of yet. I personally think it’s a NY area company. This style appears to have been made for the WS between 1954-57. The spine material is unique to this maker.

ooo-ribay 07-10-2021 06:42 AM

Also, Randy, I think Egner was just showing different designs; not necessarily color variations. Your red probably has the same “value” as a gray example.

Fballguy 07-10-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2121723)
Also, Randy, I think Egner was just showing different designs; not necessarily color variations. Your red probably has the same “value” as a gray example.

Is there a color version of Egner's book? Mine is black and white. How can you tell what color his pictures are?

Fballguy 07-10-2021 08:49 AM

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Just found out about the existence of this pennant yesterday. Unfortunately it doesn't exist in my collection. Apparently, it comes up for sale with Halley's Comet like frequency. There are actually a few different ones with this theme. I love that it was deemed innocent in the 1950s but would never fly today (due to white outrage most likely, not Chinese).

Are there any similarly politically incorrect baseball pennants aside from the relatively tame and ubiquitous big nose Chief Wahoo and scalp waving Milwaukee Brave? Had never seen my Crackers pennant before, but not sure if that was politically incorrect as there aren't definitive origins of that name.

"Chinese Bandits" was the nickname for LSU's back up defensive unit in the late 1950s...known for their tenacity and toughness. Fairly certain, those qualities would be offensive today. :confused:

Darner 07-10-2021 08:57 AM

Egner book
 
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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2121753)
Is there a color version of Egner's book? Mine is black and white. How can you tell what color his pictures are?

The digital/Kindle version is in color.

Fballguy 07-10-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Darner (Post 2121764)
The digital/Kindle version is in color.

Cool...Never even thought to look for that. Thanks

perezfan 07-10-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2121761)
Just found out about the existence of this pennant yesterday. Unfortunately it doesn't exist in my collection. Apparently, it comes up for sale with Halley's Comet like frequency. There are actually a few different ones with this theme. I love that it was deemed innocent in the 1950s but would never fly today (due to white outrage most likely, not Chinese).

Are there any similarly politically incorrect baseball pennants aside from the relatively tame and ubiquitous big nose Chief Wahoo and scalp waving Milwaukee Brave? Had never seen my Crackers pennant before, but not sure if that was politically incorrect as there aren't definitive origins of that name.

"Chinese Bandits" was the nickname for LSU's back up defensive unit in the late 1950s...known for their tenacity and toughness. Fairly certain, those qualities would be offensive today. :confused:

Edited to say that vintage pennants found to be offensive are in the eye of the beholder.


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