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ooo-ribay 06-26-2021 10:29 AM

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I just picked up a book on the Pacific Coast League. Check out these beauties...

Domer05 06-26-2021 10:32 AM

Restoration?? Are you kidding? Nooooooooo. How on earth would you replace missing pieces of 100+ year old, sun faded, patina'd felt? Between that and the frame you'd spend more than the pennant was worth (and, you'd certainly devalue it for resale purposes).

I say let these priceless artifacts show their age. Sure, the Declaration of Independence's looking a bit shabby; but, nobody's about to trace over John Hancock's signature, just to make it look like it did on July 4, 1776.

It's a 100+ year old pennant. It's okay to look old.

If you want a happy medium, I recommend scanning the color of the primary felt color; printing it in the shape of a triangle; and placing the pennant atop this background, so the pennant appears--from a distance--to be one, intact pennant. Up close, you'll see the holes; and that will convince others that they're looking at a truly special (and unrestored) pennant. Everybody wins!

This is precisely how the Smithsonian displayed the Star Spangled Banner for many decades.

Just make sure the background is printed on acid free material. Or better yet, use felt ... if you can match the color.

ooo-ribay 06-26-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2117077)
Restoration?? Are you kidding? Nooooooooo. How on earth would you replace missing pieces of 100+ year old, sun faded, patina'd felt? Between that and the frame you'd spend more than the pennant was worth (and, you'd certainly devalue it for resale purposes).

I say let these priceless artifacts show their age. Sure, the Declaration of Independence's looking a bit shabby; but, nobody's about to trace over John Hancock's signature, just to make it look like it did on July 4, 1776.

It's a 100+ year old pennant. It's okay to look old.

If you want a happy medium, I recommend scanning the color of the primary felt color; printing it in the shape of a triangle; and placing the pennant atop this background, so the pennant appears--from a distance--to be one, intact pennant. Up close, you'll see the holes; and that will convince others that they're looking at a truly special (and unrestored) pennant. Everybody wins!

This is precisely how the Smithsonian displayed the Star Spangled Banner for many decades.

Just make sure the background is printed on acid free material. Or better yet, use felt ... if you can match the color.

That sounds like a good plan.

Fballguy 06-26-2021 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2117064)
On closer inspection, it seems the only really bad portions are lower left and upper right. You could do what I’ve done….cut out little felt patches and tape them from the back. :p

I've got a Cardinals pennant I did that to. You can barely tell...from the front. :)

Fballguy 06-26-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2117077)
Restoration?? Are you kidding? Nooooooooo. How on earth would you replace missing pieces of 100+ year old, sun faded, patina'd felt? Between that and the frame you'd spend more than the pennant was worth (and, you'd certainly devalue it for resale purposes).

I say let these priceless artifacts show their age. Sure, the Declaration of Independence's looking a bit shabby; but, nobody's about to trace over John Hancock's signature, just to make it look like it did on July 4, 1776.

It's a 100+ year old pennant. It's okay to look old.

If you want a happy medium, I recommend scanning the color of the primary felt color; printing it in the shape of a triangle; and placing the pennant atop this background, so the pennant appears--from a distance--to be one, intact pennant. Up close, you'll see the holes; and that will convince others that they're looking at a truly special (and unrestored) pennant. Everybody wins!

This is precisely how the Smithsonian displayed the Star Spangled Banner for many decades.

Just make sure the background is printed on acid free material. Or better yet, use felt ... if you can match the color.

That's a great and practical solution.

Duluth Eskimo 06-26-2021 03:59 PM

Those ND early pennants are off the charts as is the national champs one.

That Killebrew pennant is nice and tougher than the different photo versions you see around more. DWR is the expert on the Twins photo pennants

UKCardGuy 06-27-2021 02:20 PM

1910 Connie Mack Athletics Pennant
 
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I'm working on more updates to the Pennant Catalog. I came upon this Connie Mack Athletics pennant from an auction in 2019. The listing says that the top was restored. I'm assuming that means the spine and tassels were replaced.

I'm interested on thoughts on this one? Does anyone remember the auction in 2019?

https://paragonauctions.com/CIRCA_19...-LOT10045.aspx

ooo-ribay 06-27-2021 02:33 PM

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Saw these on ebay. I have a couple of different Giants pennants done by Schmidt's. I thought it was cool to see the whole intact set, along with string and directions for display options (not $250 cool, tho).

perezfan 06-27-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2117460)
I'm working on more updates to the Pennant Catalog. I came upon this Connie Mack Athletics pennant from an auction in 2019. The listing says that the top was restored. I'm assuming that means the spine and tassels were replaced.

I'm interested on thoughts on this one? Does anyone remember the auction in 2019?

https://paragonauctions.com/CIRCA_19...-LOT10045.aspx

Don't bother with it. The pennant is a common/obvious reproduction, and the Auction House is clueless. Someone got taken, and it's this kind of thing that really screws the hobby. Just LMK if you need an image of the real one.

Darner 06-27-2021 08:22 PM

pennant repair
 
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I've tried repairing old felt and it is possible. This was my first attempt on an faded A's pennant with a bad tip. If I ever do it again I would take more time to match the color better as it came out a little bit too dark. I did it by needle felting wool fibers to reproduce the felt.

PS. !f I had an historically old/valuable pennant I wouldn't have touched it.


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