The orange Giants Pennant is also early 1960s. So those pennants in the Polaroid span almost a decade. Great shot... and I love seeing the Technigraph Helmet Plaques on the wall as well. Those are all circa mid-1960s.

Tried to post this a few days ago and the pictures didn’t take so trying again
Picked up in the Philly area last week

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That's a nice group of pennants, Jim. Find more Giants.

I love the look on the Cardinal’s face. He appears distrustful and bitterly scorned.

Just another great “stadium” version from the master artists at Trench!

Great pennants! The 1964 picture pennant is sought after in by area, hard to find in nice condition like yours.

Wow! The condition of those is awesome!

Happy Thanksgiving, youse guys! :D

It is better than the one I have. Still looking for a 61 to complete the decade.

I am guessing you r in Philly

FYI, I posted some new content on each of the below sites, including an interview of a former ASCO employee intimately involved in the company's efforts to launch a felt novelty line in the 1960s. If you enjoyed last month's interview with Tom Storm, you'll like this.

www.pennantfever.weebly.com

www.pennantfactory.weebly.com

Happy Thanksgiving.

Your re-creations are looking awesome. Get going on the 1958 Opening Day! :p

YES! Love the ‘69 ASCO pennants. Thanks for more great reading. And it has me thinking, Kyle ... time to self-publish a book with all this great stuff? I can see it with input chapters from the board members. Something much richer than a B/W price guide. Could be great for the hobby and I’d help however I could!

I live in South Jersey but teach/coach at a college in the city, collect all teams but especially Phillies/A’s. I completed my Phillies 1960s picture pennant set a few months ago, I needed the 1968, although just a week ago I picked up my second 1961 which is an alternate version I didn’t know existed. Interestingly I have two 1960s that have same pennant graphics but different team photos ... and now two 1961s (pictures below) with the same photo but different pennant. Yet they are all made by Trench. The 1960s and one 1961 have a velvet texture to the printing.

Well I solved the problem of running out of wall space ... just build another wall!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Greg- Is that going to be a floating wall of pennants? Or are they attached to the wall?

Kyle- thanks for the ASCO info. I'm with Greg about the idea of a book and baseball Rob about taking on the 1958 Giants/Dodgers pennant next.

Attached are pics of some recent additions, mostly from Fballguy, who was nice enough to make these rare 49ers color variants available to me (as well as the bottom Oilers pennant).

I used to think that helmet pennants were kind of boring, but it turns out that there are many rare to very rare versions, which makes them fun to hunt. The 49ers helmet pennant is a bootleg, and I think that the white Oilers is as well. The middle Oilers pennant is very common as a mini, but this is the only full sized version I have seen.

Rob: I haven't forgotten about the '58 "Holy Grail" pennant project. It was next on deck in my que; however, due to a certain World Series outcome that ended rather favorably for me, it got bypassed for some more contemporary projects :D

But it'll get done. The template is finished. I found and purchased the right fabric. I just need to burn the stencil and, at present, all my screens are spoken for on Lakers and Dodgers projects.

Greg: I'm flattered at the thought of a book; but, once I sell my first half dozen copies, I'm afraid I might be left with quite a bit of unsold stock.

Honestly, I'm convinced, for the time being, that a (free) website is the best format to share this content with those that follow the hobby. Perhaps one day pennants will get to bobble head status--but, we're not there yet.

Maybe in a few years....

I think the market for good vintage bobbing heads is about the same as the pennant market. The new crap does sell, though, to some extent.

And in regard to the WS that finished “favorably” :mad:, are you going to make a fantasy pennant with a vintage look?

Bingo, you got it! It's modeled on a mid-1960s pennant design, with a 2020 update. The first batch came out pretty good. I had to make a few modifications; we'll see how the second round turns out this weekend.

Those white Phillies picture pennants are hanging in front of the newly constructed wall, there’s a ledge that sticks out in front of it. I put the wall behind it so that the pool table is centered. It’s in my basement, which is good because it is best protected from natural light, but not so good because that’s where the washer/dryer are and it has typical basement issues for a 50 year old house. This wall at least divides the area into two rooms.

Absolutely love the 49ers goldpanner pennants, especially the green one. The colors are so vivid. Some of these, either the graphic colors were dull when applied or it faded, and other remain sharp and beautiful. Great, great pennants.

Circa 1968. Nothing here too rare, I don't think. The pennant behind the speaker says "1968 LA Dodgers vs. NY Yankees."

I'm hoping to rely on the collective knowledge of Net54 to help educate me on these 2 pennants that I picked up recently. They're 8.5" x 11". I've seen some listing showing them from 1969. Any info (manufacturer, date, value) would be appreciated.

Hi Gary, I’m not the football pennant expert here but my educated guess is 1969-72, made by Trench, and would fetch $25-35 apiece on eBay. They are very rare and very cool!

Now this is very interesting .... as it shows a family of pennants and dates them. Clearly not Trench, not Ad Flag, not ASCO .... if I had to guess, it’s the unknown company who made the 1958 LA/SF Opening Day pennant, and mid 50s WS pennants.

It's actually a 1963 World Series pennant that they made an 8 from the 3.

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Ahhhh. Interesting.

I think these were made in the 1960s; however, I believe these were made by ASCO--not Trench. ASCO made very similar fish tail pennants (with circular photo cut-outs) for certain Minnesota Twins players throughout the 1960s; and, along with Trench, they had a license from the NFL to do so that began in the mid-1960s, which would account for the presence of the NFL shield on these.

I think they're cool. Good pick-up.

Thanks guys. That's really helpful.

Okay this won’t interest anyone else but I am really jazzed about these ... three different purchases last week, three mint ASCO cloth pennants. The Royals is hard to find without fading and the Pirates is hard to find in general (in cloth). Tigers must be from 1967 or 68 since it is clearly same company but no MLB. (The Tigers ‘69 ASCO is orange and not too uncommon.) ... I have still yet to see a cloth Giants ‘69 pennant in this series.

Finished decorating the new wall, decided to put all of my stadium pennants on it. Generally not the most valuable but they display the best IMO. 45 more pennants brings the total to 205 full-size pennants on the walls in one room. Here are some observations about these Trench stadium pennants, in addition to KB’s great insight on his blog:

1. It seems that with one exception, there are at most three or four variations for each team in terms of the ballpark graphic and the logo used. This doesn’t include color variations. ... The Tigers have by my count 11 different versions, including the 1969 Tiger with crown. I have nine of them.

2. The Reds might have the only one on white. It’s probably my favorite.

3. No stadium pennant for Phillies, Senators I or II, Twins, Colt 45s. Every other team has one.

4. I think these started in 1956-57, with the earliest having the TMC trademark.

5. The Mets and the SF Giants have them but they are notably ... different (in a good way). The artwork just doesn’t look the same even though they look great. I don’t have any SFG ballpark pennants but I’ve seen Marc and Rob’s. I’m including a pic of two Mets pennants, top is Trench and bottom is ASCO ... yet the ballpark graphic looks identical.

6. The green paint is almost always faded to yellow ... or were they made that way on most pennants? The White Sox strangely have the most vivid colors.

7. Trench did these for Buffalo and Indianapolis in the IL and AA. They are on my wall. Would love to know if any other teams exist (Toronto? Rochester?)

Oh well thanks for reading. It’s gonna be a looong winter.

Looks amazing Greg!

I love your yellow KC Athletics. So rare to find the yellow version, and it's very attractive in that color. And the other KC Athletics (with the Dumbo-like Elephant) is probably my favorite of all... tied with Mr. Red riding on his Bat above Crosley Field.

Also.... Does this one count as yet another Stadium Pennant for the Tigers? Seems like it straddles a fine line....

I love it, Greg!

How do you affix them to the wall? I’m assuming those are all in rigid holders?

Looks great, Greg. The early SF Giants pennants (early for SF) with the batter in the stadium are very, very hard to find (thanks again, Mark, for mine). Are other teams as rare?

After much deliberation by the Committee of Basement Wall Decoration it was decided that Tigers pennant does not qualify as a stadium pennant although a resolution was passed establishing it as one of the best ever Tigers pennants. I have this in multi color and in all-orange print. Same decision on the Fenway Park Red Sox pennant that use the ballpark as a stand-alone logo.

Speaking of the KCA pennant, to my knowledge, it is the only yellow/gold Trench pennant?

Thanks Rob! Rigid holders thumbtacked to the wall. Nothing else will hold.

That is a stunning pennant. I guess it is Trench, with lefty hitter guy ... but it looks a little different and it seems as if the spine is also cloth? Really cool and rare. Aside from my two minor league pennants (Indianapolis and Buffalo) I think the hardest to find might be the Polo Grounds Giants. Also I think the Orioles pennant with the large stadium is tough ... I’d like to get this in orange.

Aw shoot... I wish I knew about the earlier orange Orioles. I consigned that one to LOTG two auctions ago in a paired lot. :o

Marc... I personally think your Giants stadium pennant is the rarest one of all.... followed by Greg's white Reds and the NY Giants with the Willard Mullin Bum.

I usually don't regret selling anything, but letting that one go has eaten away at me more than a few times. It's easy to reconcile though, just knowing it's in the hands of a true Giants fan. I don't suspect we'll see another one anytime soon, let alone in that condition.

Thanks, Mark. I do love it and it fits really well with my collection. It has a good home.

I would trade it for this, though ;)

Slightly different. There are a few variations.

Mine clearly depicts the stadium after a flood.

The batters look just a bit different as well (in the face). Rob's also has the wavy lines up near the bat (to depict the force of the swing), but mine doesn't.

Okay, so I'm not the only person that thought that that right field "flood" part of the Candlestick graphic looked odd! I'm sure they intended to depict a walkway of sorts; but, why does it appear in some; and not in others?

Rob, Marc ... I'm looking at you two on this one....

I completely agree: that Tigers pennant is awesome. Interesting thing about it: I do believe that version was by Trench...

...but beware: WGN liked the design so much they made a copy of it featuring the same stadium façade artwork; albeit, much smaller; and using Day Glo colors; and featuring the ballpark's more contemporary name/signage, "TIGER STADIUM."

WGN's was made in '68 to commemorate the "Sock it to'em" Tigers, so the Trench version likely came out much earlier.

They even ripped-off Trench's signature letter font!

Oh I have no doubt that it’s a Trench. Only that it doesn’t quite fit the mold of their other stadium pennants (graphic of inside stadium with smaller logo floating above). Whatever the case, the Trench artist should have been honored at the annual pennant awards ceremony for that design. IMO the best looking team pennant from the 1950s along with the Yankees with large batter in front of large Uncle Sam hat.

I have no idea why the "spillway" appeared on some pennants and not others. I also have no idea why the artist emphasized it on Marc's pennant. Here's an pre-opening pic of Candlestick. My guess is the open area was for deliveries or the opposing team's bus or something like that.

Maybe they drew Marc's pennant that way to depict "the opening of the floodgates" with Mays, McCovey and Cepeda doing damage to opposing pitchers? :confused:

Both versions are beyond cool looking, and both equally scarce for pennants of that era. That stadium definitely looks better on a pennant than in-person. We called it "Candlestink" when we lived there because it was always cold and windy (even in the dead of summer).

Have a vivid memory of Phillies’ Don Carman (favorite pitcher as a kid) almost going perfect game in ‘86 at Candlestick until a damn wind blown fly ball in the 9th fell for a double ...

Both of those Candlestick pennants are beyond awesome ... pure works of art. Is this known to exist with any trademark? (TMC, or the little baseball)

Here are some variations of those two favorite Trench pennants ...

Yep... that was their Heyday. Beautiful and classic imagery.

Very under-appreciated within the hobby!

Here is a photo of an old pennant (not mine) (listed on ebay this week).

Charlotte? Chattanooga??

Looks like this one.

These pins used the same stadium and Tiger and have a Sortservice trademark.

Great finds on both the pennant and the pins, Mike. I have on SF Giants pin with the SportsService logo but the graphic is not found on any pennant....which is unfortunate, because it’s a cool pin.

Inside the Park had quite a few pennants in their auction last night. I don’t guess any were super rare or you guys would have been bidding. Still, most seemed to be worth a $40 opening bid, yet many got no action at all. :confused:

I saw them, the better baseball ones were in weak condition. Fading, holes etc.

Cool! What a beautiful graphic.

OK....I didn’t look too closely.

Question ... is this a pennant or a grilled cheese?

measures 11” by 21” :p

I can't even imagine how it got to that state. Looks like it has survived fires, mud puddles and teething dogs.

Maybe it's "game used", meaning it fell out of the fan's hand and on to a very muddy playing field, where it got trampled by Curly Culp, Willie Lanier and Buck Buchanan's cleats for 3 hours.

I'm guessing it won't make it to his asking price. :rolleyes:

LOLOL!!! That’s a good one ... in fact I can see it now ... “game waved pennant”.

On a similar note, I used to own that awesome ‘32 Cubs WS pennant that you have with the cartoon mouse-cub. Almost certain the exact pennant, has the same weird cut in the upper corner but mint condition. That was when I used to buy and trade at the Philly show like 15 years ago. Anyway I used to think ... this pennant might actually know whether or not Ruth called his shot. Then I remind myself that it’s a piece of cloth and that I’m an idiot ..

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That is a GREAT picture!

This tag is on a pennant. Can anyone tell me what is the company?

Don't know about the tag, but I'd love to see the pennant!

Don’t own the pennant. Sorry.

Annin & Co.
 

"A & Co. N.Y." = Annin & Co., a legendary flag maker based in New York City that's been in business since the 1850s. For many decades they were the largest maker of US flags in the business; and I suspect that's still the case.

In the early 1900s Annin was one of the largest makers of felt novelty pennants and banners. Most of these were collegiate pennants. They also made pennants for fraternal orders. Apart from their signature A & Co. label, these pennants often featured three pairs of tassels made from silk or satin. They were gorgeous.

By the mid-1910s Annin was offering felt pennants in both the sewn letter and screen printed styles.

The only professional baseball pennant I can definitively attribute to them was a 1916-dated Boston Red Sox World Champions pennant (I know because it's actually featured in their catalogue from that year). It's a red/white monochrome pennant ... Rick Haskins owns it, I recall.

At some point the company dropped out of the felt novelty business; but, I'm still unclear precisely when that was. Their 1954 catalogue still shows collegiate pennants as part of their offerings; but I can't say I've ever seen anything with their label/mark on it that's that new.

I suspect they may have stopped using labels all together by the 1930s. If so, that may explain why most of the pennants attributable to them came from the turn of the century--not the mid-century.

They probably made a lot more pennants than we know of....

Thank you so much for the info.

Greg...

I forgot that was once yours...

The '32 Cubs is one of my very favorites. A permanent spot on the wall for that one. The "Giant Mouse" Cub is always immensely popular with everyone who visits the house. It is unlike anything made in the last 80 years, so people are always mesmerized by it.

On a more somber note, I'm posting the 1929 Cubs (seen in the second photo) for the final time, as it has found a nice new home.

Wow! You let that great ‘29 Cubs pennant go? I didn’t miss an auction did I? What a beautiful and rare piece.

Why did the CUBS put a MOUSE on their pennant? :confused:

:p

I would say the pennant company just had a very bad artist.

Either that, or it was done by the artist's kid.

Yeah, Mike... the '29 Cubs is gone. It was a direct sale, and never went to auction. Next time I part with a rare Cubs pennant , I'll be sure to run it by you. :o

I hope it went to a good home. It is a special pennant. And thanks for considering me next time.

That's not just any mouse...It's Mickey Rat.

Here's another with the "VET" mark. We never figured that one out, did we?

Was watching the pennant lots in Lelands last night and thought the prices realized were reasonable. Didn't see anything that jumped out as a great deal for the buyer or a killing for the seller. Except maybe this curious lot. Someone is willing to play $1250, not including tax or shipping for these pennants? There's not a pennant in the lot worth over $200 and you could get most on ebay for under $100. What am I missing?

People seem to always overpay in the AH auctions. It’s as if they don’t trust ebay.

If I listed that lot on ebay, it would sell for $400-$500

Right on the money...

Before I even read your post, I added them up, and came to a value of $450. Nothing uncommon in there, with the Dodgers and Browns being about tied for the best.

I think the consensus was this is likely a concessionaire's mark for an unknown company; and, one that ASCO was known to include on pennants they made.

All I can say is that the first pennants I ever owned as a kid - and still have, with like 50 thumbtack holes in each - all have the VET mark. They were bought at games in the mid-late 70s. Guess which stadium they were purchased in?