Try the 1969 Don Hunter PC, eBay item # 235569319706

Seller doesn't show the back, but it is from a 1969 issue published by Don Hunter and has a nice bio back.

There is not a good option for Pearson in terms of a traditional card. He has a sticker in the 1985 Sportstar Photo-Graphic set, but the choices are nearly non-existent for the prime of his career.

One of the mysteries of the 1972 STP set is where the hell is the David Pearson card? We get Elmo Langley and Dick Brooks in that set, but no Pearson. By '72, Pearson had already won three NASCAR championships.

I am going to go out on a limb here and speculate , I think the 1972 STP cards were ony given out at a STP tent at the Daytona speedway. The only cards made were STP sponsered drivers which would explain the drivers selected. Im sure some drivers like Petty were major sponsers and other drivers were associate or minor sponsers by STP. As far as the Lorenzen cards being so scarce I think his sponsership was pulled befere the race. I have no proof but this makes sense.

The STP cards were indeed available for free at the STP tent at the '72 Daytona 500. Collectors who picked up the cards that year insist the two Lorenzen cards were not available that day. Lorenzen did not lose his STP sponsorship; he retired prior to the '72 Daytona 500 and did not even compete in the race that year (he did subsequently make a handful of starts later that season before retiring for good). Lorenzen was good friends was STP CEO Andy Granatelli, and that has been speculated as the reason why Lorenzen is the only driver with two cards in the set.

Not all the drivers in the set were sponsored by STP. :)

It also seems like the same 4-5 drivers are offered for sale all the time: Petty, Baker, Langley, Glotzbach. Where are the others??

The poster "Justus," who posts on this board once in a while, has collected 1972 STPs for a long time. From different PMs I have had with "Justus" over the years, he has said that Bobby Allison is as hard to find as the two Lorenzen cards.

I had heard a while ago that Langley and Baker both had stashes of their own cards that they handed out to fans after the 1972 release. That does seem possible, considering how common the Langley and Baker cards seem to be. I wonder if all the Petty cards coming out of the woodwork is just a function of how much the value of that card has escalated the last few years. I remember selling a Petty STP card on here for $150 maybe five years ago, and that was a fair price for both buyer and seller at the time. Petty STPs were not always as common on eBay as what they are these days.

I wish I had bought a higher grade one when they were still cheap, but still, to me one of the great non major sports cards there is, an indispensable card.

There is a PSA 5 Allison on ebay.

I see Hamilton won for the 1st time in awhile today. George Russell won last week, so Mercedes gaining some momentum after starting off the season horribly. Guessing they were able to make some improvements to the car recently.

Verstappen still has a commanding lead, despite his team-mate Sergio Perez really struggling this year.

Can anyone ID this driver?

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I wholeheartedly agree with you

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Chevrolet
 

This recently sold on eBay. I believe it to be the highest sell price.

T36s have gone insane in recent months. It was not that long ago that the entire set could be purchased for under $1,000. I kick myself for not buying a whole set at auction when they were affordable.

I have been left shocked by single T36s selling for $500+ on eBay in recent months, but that Chevrolet price stuns me. I am at 11/25 on a basic T36 set, and was cringing not that long ago at the thought of paying $100+ for each card to finish the set. :(

I watched with interest the autographed Joe Weatherly postcard that ended last Saturday on eBay. At just $106, the final auction price seemed very low to me. I fully realize that autographs on eBay are a scammer's paradise. But I think the autograph was good after comparing it with the few other examples that could be found online.

I thought that would be a $300-400 item. Weatherly autographs are very tough. He was the NASCAR Cup series champion in 1962 and 1963, then died in a January 1964 Riverside (Cal.) crash.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176496562158

The numbers just aren't there on early NASCAR stuff; even the best items just do not sell for much. Kinda nice for a collector but disappointing if you plan to make a profit with it.

Once in a while it goes well with PSA.

Nice. That looks to be a tough one to get centered like that.

I'm not really a Nascar guy, but that ones been on my wish list for awhile. I've got a bunch of the 88' sets with his card in it and some of his 91" Trax cards (1st Nascar issue), but never sprang for an 87'.

Price has come down quite a bit in the last year or so, so I might start looking around for a nice "9".

Been a while since I posted.

1955 Ferrero 'tinnie' of Stirling Moss:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ero%20Moss.jpg

I have a Sugar Ray Robinson already, so I had to have this one. Italian, in case anyone wonders. I love the metal 'cards' from the postwar era, though most of mine are boxers and soccer from Argentina and Uruguay.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Uruguay.jpg

1948 Indy 500 ticket with Mauri Rose shown. Rose also won that year.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ket%20Rose.jpg

FWIW, A.J. Foyt has officially stopped signing. Also, RIP Bobby Allison

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I don't have any of the Race USA cards but I have sets of Fleer Canada Drag Nationals and Official Drag Champs cards:

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https://hosting.photobucket.com/85c5...841fee1c23.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/85c5...b72af2aa71.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/85c5...911461f822.jpg

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Note that the Fleer Canada cards are all numbered on the back.

:)

The Parkhurst Indianapolis Race Speedway Winners cards are perhaps the coolest racing cards of them all!

:cool:

Wonder if NASCAR received word in recent weeks that Allison was very close to the end. The timing of the sanctioning body finally recognizing Allison's 1971 win at Bowman Gray (N.C.) seems more than a little coincidental.

The Lorenzen with car card in the 1972 STP set gets all the hype for its legendary difficulty, but Allison's STP card is tough as well.

I was thinking the exact same thing on your first point, Eddie. And I've always agreed with the second.

Great to see you back again. It's been too long. You were the one who first made me aware of how tough Allison is in the '72 STP set.

From a wtf SGC 4 to a PSA .... wait for it.... 9.

That's crazy. :confused:
How can they be so strict/wrong?

I posted it on the main page a couple of days ago. The thread sort of went south, but no surprise around here.

There was a seller on here not long ago selling some 52 Topps and all were graded by SGC.
Looking at them, I thought those received favorable grades but, then I see your card, and others, and think WTF, how can there be that much disparity between graders from the same company?

I always thought SGC was far more consistent than PSA but all has been thrown out the window now.

Inside the grading room:

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On another note, if you want to part with the Parkhurst Mauri Rose, LMK.

Upgraded Clark RC.

Great cards, autos, etc. Congrats to all. Here are a couple of mine.

Rest in Peace, Fast Freddie
 

Lost a great one yesterday.
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RIP. So what’s his first card? Earliest Lorenzen I’ve got is a 1962 Racing Pictorial postcard.

1972 stp.

For anyone who is not aware, the card Justus posted above is one of racing's legendary rarities -- the Fred Lorenzen with car card from the 1972 STP set. I bought some STP cards a number of years ago from an older lady who was actually at the 1972 Daytona 500, and she said the two Lorenzen cards were not available at the track that day.

Like all almost drivers, Lorenzen was a great TTM autograph signer. He has been in terrible health with dementia for about a decade. Before he became unable to sign altogether, his daughter would sometimes include a note apologizing for the quality of the autograph but that her dad tried his best.

The King remains a TTM machine. Just got these back

1962 PC:

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1969 PC:

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Also a few from Dave Marcis:

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Ken Schrader:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img439.jpg

Harry Gant:

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Awesome TTM mail additions, Adam. The King's white paint pen must have dried up from overuse. ;)

Here is a Harry Gant story I was not even aware of until I read Kyle Petty's book a few years ago. Even after Gant's racing career was taking off and he was earning enough money to make a living as a driver, he still worked a Monday-Friday job as a roofer long past when most guys would have quit that life because he was afraid that the racing success would not last.

Adam.........That '62 Petty PC looks awesome signed. Very cool.

Thanks; I was super-pleased with how it turned out. I think he took a little more time than usual to place the signature; maybe he knew it was a toughie...

I also did these:

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I was looking to find something fun and not part of a project that I have been working on forever and came across these two gems. Now I might have a new project of finding early post cards of the guys I grew up watching every weekend.

Nice, Bill. I am putting together a whole run like that of NASCAR HOFers' first postcards in the big series. Richard Petty's first was 1962 Daytona International speedway. Dale Sr.'s first was 1979 Osterlund. I've got your Wallace but the Elliott is a new one to me. Looks like he was twelve.

I am currently watching a pair of Bill Elliott postcards one is definitely from 1982 as it has the '82 schedule on the back and the other does not show the back but is most likely from 1983.

And this arrived today:

Nice. Old Silverpen strikes again.

A couple of new cards. Ricky Rudd and a really beat up Bill Elliott.

Davey Allison from 1984.

NHRA Top Fuel 8-Time Champion "The Sarge'

Two more Darrell Waltrip and a signed Bobby Allison to complete the legacy of the #88 Gatorade car.

Richard Childress & Austin Dillon autographed bottle of wine

Nice! :)

I acquired a diecast John Force funny car years ago (20-25+yrs?) that came with a plexiglass display case but I am unable to find the exact model anywhere?
Mine has a Red wing/spoiler and has no Jolly Rancher written on the side but if is very similar to this one.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/304575659724...3ABFBMjPnSgLhl

Thanks, I met Tony Schumacher at the Super Nationals in Englishtown, also Jonn Force's daughter Courtney Force got her autograph too. John Force is quite a character for the good

He certainly is! :D
Seen many an interview where he gets so wound up he loses he train of thought completely forgetting what he was talking about.

An NHRA event anywhere is on my bucket list. Only seen top alcohol, not top fuel.

From 2000 the diecast of the winning car from the 1969 Le Mans driven by Jacky Ickx & Jackie Oliver

Of all the sets that have exploded in value since Covid, T36s have to be near the top of the list. T36s are up 10X in the past five years. I am floored by a complete set going for $11,100 at REA over the weekend, but I guess that is probably not out of line when individual cards now go for $500 and up in many cases. :eek:

https://bid.collectrea.com/lots/147057

I have been stuck at 12/25 T36s for several years now, and will never finish the set if the permanent price is now $400-500 (or more for some drivers) a card. It wasn't that long ago when an entire set of T36s could be had for well under $1,000.

1937 Wilbur Shaw Indianapolis 500 Board Game

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OZIAA...O/s-l1600.webp

I like the Wilbur Shaw game cards because there are so few racing cards from the period between the T36s in 1911 and the Shaw game in 1937. I have a Frank Lockhart card from the game as an example. I want a Ray Harroun card from the game, since that seemingly has to be the rookie card of the first Indy 500 winner but have lost out on a few Harroun cards at auction in recent years.

I'm collecting Rose cards, so this was a nice get for me.

I found an interesting Clark PC from Europe that year in a PC collection I purchased recently and just finished breaking down. I will scan and post when I have some time later.

t36 Chevrolet...
 

My Son and I spent the weekend in Indy for the 500 and I picked this up at a local shop. Fun weekend overall, but the race was mostly a parade at the end compared to last year.

Great pickup, Matt. T36s are on fire right now. I wondered if anyone on the board attended the 500 yesterday. It will be interesting to see if Palou can keep up his dominance all season and put together a season for the ages. I know Palou had never won on an oval prior to yesterday, but it seemed crazy to me that went off at 11-2 odds yesterday, given how dominant he has been all year.

I like the current Indycar sets that Parkside has put out the past couple years, and bought nine bricks of the Pacific set. Given the fact that that buyers were guaranteed an autograph card in each brick I thought $30 each was a good deal. The cards look great, but the collation has been awful.