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Mark17 07-10-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BeanTown (Post 2241168)
Not sure how that works with Google. But I’m sure the scammers won’t mind me posting their email addresses since they aren’t members here and they are looking to sell

John Gray grayj8948@gmail.com. Their PP email was sales.scalmob@gmail.com

Jack Corrigan corriganjack804@gmail.com. Their PP email was 577270695@qq.com

Thanks for the emails! Now I don't have to go to the park to get them. :)

BeanTown 07-10-2022 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2241170)
Thanks for the emails! Now I don't have to go to the park to get them. :)

Haha, yes the park for Jack and the bar for John.

chalupacollects 07-11-2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2240229)
Not sure if anything has changed in the last couple years. Had a long time friend join just to bid on a silly rare card I posted in the auction section. As soon as he joined but before Leon approved him he could PM but not post.

So a friend joined to shill bid?:eek:

bnorth 07-11-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 2241519)
So a friend joined to shill bid?:eek:

LOL, no. I put it up for auction on here and another forum member contacted him about the card because they knew he needed it.

Wanaselja 07-12-2022 10:12 AM

Have another one to add from akoredewilliams:


“Hey man my co worker as that for laying down around in good condition and also in fair price you can contact him via halkgarry@gmail.com

Rhotchkiss 07-14-2022 06:30 PM

Username Jasonwortham9 - with zero posts - just contacted me. Apparently he has M131 newsboys and D304 No Teams. Amazing he has such great cards!! Clearly a scammer. Beware

fisherboy7 07-14-2022 07:04 PM

I just had 3 separate scammers reach out after posting about wanting e107 HOFers. They all had what I'm looking for at low prices. Doesn't take long to see through their shtick.

They will almost always give you another email address to contact them (or their buddy) and will go silent when you ask for net54 or hobby references.

In a community that's been around as long as net54, I can't see these guys getting away with much. Just be careful guys!

Wanaselja 07-14-2022 07:17 PM

Add to the list - Jasonwortham9@gmail.com - same Net54 user ID.

Ben Yourg 07-14-2022 07:26 PM

Scammer
 
Some one "James Gerry" contacted me about my 1911 Zeenuts wanted post.
He said he had some.He sent me pictures of 1912s.And a 1910 sepia postcard?
There's also someone" Shawhalik9",Im not sure about.
He said he's a member?

Casey2296 07-14-2022 07:33 PM

Shawhalik9 has 6 posts and a sketchy one in bst postcard threads, maybe he just needs a talking to about the rules, or the ban hammer...

ezez420 07-14-2022 07:55 PM

All the people that joined in last two years should be rescreened. So many people that add no value to the group. Let them go to Blowout


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Tere1071 07-14-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ezez420 (Post 2242564)
All the people that joined in last two years should be rescreened. So many people that add no value to the group. Let them go to Blowout


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On what criteria would determine if someone who was admitted into Net54 has added value to the group?

Phil aka Tere1071

Working on completing my 1970
and 1973 Topps Baseball sets

Completed and upgrading my 1953 Bowman Color,
1971, 1972, 1974, and 1975 Topps Baseball sets

BeanTown 07-14-2022 09:06 PM

Maybe look at banned members first. Seems this scammer has some knowledge on cards.

Casey2296 07-14-2022 09:10 PM

It'd be fun if we could require every new member to introduce themselves on the main before they had access to bst.

ezez420 07-14-2022 09:41 PM

I agree. Some sort of limited access/introduction for bst for newer members.

If there is a get together at National this would be a great topic


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Leon 07-14-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2242561)
Shawhalik9 has 6 posts and a sketchy one in bst postcard threads, maybe he just needs a talking to about the rules, or the ban hammer...

ban hammer

Baseball Rarities 07-14-2022 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2242561)
Shawhalik9 has 6 posts and a sketchy one in bst postcard threads, maybe he just needs a talking to about the rules, or the ban hammer...

Yea, definitely something weird with this guy.

Brian Van Horn 07-15-2022 04:51 AM

I can't help this. I see the Gehrig item passed the quarter test. :)

I'll behave now.

parkplace33 07-15-2022 05:25 AM

Leon, I will probably get trash thrown at me for this, but any chance Net54 could become a paid service? Like $10 a year or so. Might help with the scammers and enhance security features.

Casey2296 07-15-2022 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2242630)
Leon, I will probably get trash thrown at me for this, but any chance Net54 could become a paid service? Like $10 a year or so. Might help with the scammers and enhance security features.

Or make just BST $10 a year to access.

bnorth 07-15-2022 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2242630)
Leon, I will probably get trash thrown at me for this, but any chance Net54 could become a paid service? Like $10 a year or so. Might help with the scammers and enhance security features.

If you are trying to scam people for hundreds or thousands what is a measly $10 fee to give it a try?

ezez420 07-15-2022 12:07 PM

Lots of the scammers don't have two nickels to rub together.

Payment should be made by a cc in that persons name who is registering. No PayPal.

A fee will deter quite a bit.


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pawpawdiv9 07-15-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2242549)
Username Jasonwortham9 - with zero posts - just contacted me. Apparently he has M131 newsboys and D304 No Teams. Amazing he has such great cards!! Clearly a scammer. Beware


I got a email, i just read from this guy.
Leon is quick, noticed he had already been banned. ;)
Thanks Leon!!!

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1916_20 UNc big head
Hey buddy I have what you are looking for in good condition
Text me on my business email

Jasonwortham9@gmail.com

Rhotchkiss 07-15-2022 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fisherboy7 (Post 2242554)
I just had 3 separate scammers reach out after posting about wanting e107 HOFers. They all had what I'm looking for at low prices. Doesn't take long to see through their shtick.

They will almost always give you another email address to contact them (or their buddy) and will go silent when you ask for net54 or hobby references.

In a community that's been around as long as net54, I can't see these guys getting away with much. Just be careful guys!

I have now gotten 4 different PMs for 4 different WTB posts. They are from two different “people”, neither of whom have a single post, stating “hey buddy I got what your looking for, email me at …..”. It’s clearly a scam. Honestly, if you get taken by one of these guys, that’s on you. Do a tiny bit of sue diligence and use your head.

GasHouseGang 07-15-2022 08:51 PM

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this little card in B/S/T. :rolleyes:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=322066

Seven 07-16-2022 05:18 AM

I feel like Leon is working overtime with some of these characters that are joining the board, attempting to scam people!

Rhotchkiss 07-16-2022 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Seven (Post 2242943)
I feel like Leon is working overtime with some of these characters that are joining the board, attempting to scam people!

Yea, but having received 4 different scam emails/messages, and having read this thread and heard other’s experiences, I can tell you that (at least in my experience) it is very obvious the email is a scam. It smells fishy from jump. Thus, even if scammers get through, they should have zero success.

First, the message will seem very odd- like “I got what you need, email me at”….. and there may be a picture but it will likely seem very wrong, like a psa T3 Cobb

Second, if you check, the “user” will have either just joined, had zero posts, or both. And if they have posts, they are likely few and all on BST.

Third, if you still can’t tell it’s a duck (despite its quack and walk), just ask Leon or post on this thread or somewhere else for a referral or two.

obcbobd 07-16-2022 07:30 AM

Sorry if I missed this in a previous post but has anybody been scammed by a user with 50+ posts and a join date of over six months ago?

Thanks

Bob

Leon 07-16-2022 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by obcbobd (Post 2242962)
Sorry if I missed this in a previous post but has anybody been scammed by a user with 50+ posts and a join date of over six months ago?

Thanks

Bob

I haven't seen anywhere close to that many posts from a scammer. Most I have seen is around 6-8 posts. And if you look at them they will all be the same BS....
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and a card.

Gorditadogg 07-18-2022 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2242946)
Yea, but having received 4 different scam emails/messages, and having read this thread and heard other’s experiences, I can tell you that (at least in my experience) it is very obvious the email is a scam. It smells fishy from jump. Thus, even if scammers get through, they should have zero success.



First, the message will seem very odd- like “I got what you need, email me at”….. and there may be a picture but it will likely seem very wrong, like a psa T3 Cobb



Second, if you check, the “user” will have either just joined, had zero posts, or both. And if they have posts, they are likely few and all on BST.



Third, if you still can’t tell it’s a duck (despite its quack and walk), just ask Leon or post on this thread or somewhere else for a referral or two.

Or give one of your kids your POA.

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Lucas00 07-22-2022 06:45 PM

Got another scammer Emailing me on my Wtb N557 post. Didn't even bother finding a different image to use in the scam. Just used a screenshot from my post and sent me the email. What an idiot.
His email is kelvinbryan2153@gmail.com

ibechillin33 07-23-2022 09:38 AM

roland.smith246891@gmail.com

Another scammer. Do not buy from this individual or communicate with. I have been talking with over the past day, or purchasing the card that was agreed on. Simply too shady


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Leon 07-23-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ibechillin33 (Post 2245135)
roland.smith246891@gmail.com

Another scammer. Do not buy from this individual or communicate with. I have been talking with over the past day, or purchasing the card that was agreed on. Simply too shady


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Banned early this morning.
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Ben Yourg 07-23-2022 03:14 PM

Scammer
 
I got a PM from "Roland we",in response to my WTB post,in
the pre-wwll section."1911 Zeenuts wanted"
Hey buddyI've got what your looking for.
Roland.smith246891@gmail.com
Joined July "0 Posts"

-------------------I just got an Email from "Kelvin Bryan".It's the same scam!

x2drich2000 11-25-2022 11:28 AM

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I wanted to give everyone a heads up that the scammer Steven Hurley (stevenhurley92@gmail.com) is still around. This time he did not try to present himself as another board member. He indicated he only found the site recently and was not registered despite seeing my post in the BST section regarding some E92 red crofts. As most of the board probably knows, I'm quite familiar with these cards and either own or know who owns most known examples. The seller advised he had a Davis for sale along with a few other random E92s. I immediately recognized the Davis and knew the card was not owned by the scammer. I also recognized the scan of an E92 Barry as those from the seller Tonyetrade. Consequently, I decided to play along and see what additional information I could gather. The seller provided some purchase history of the cards including that he bought the Davis in 2011. The Davis sold in REA, however, the card was later sold again on Ebay by a board member in 2017. The Barry is still listed on Tonyetrade's site. The seller was asking for a little over $2300 for the two cards.

As additional information, the seller was willing to accept a check for payment and provided me an address in Triangle VA to send payment. The payment was to be sent to Amevi Akpakpo. The seller indicated that this was his father. I was able to find a listing for Amevi Akakpo at the address provided and GIS records indicated the owner of the property is Alidou Mauridjanatou. He also provided his instagram account as @officialnashcards.

One of the items I would caution folks with about these scams is the seller offered to coin the cards. Below are the images sent back. As you can see, the card are layered onto a generic photo background to make it look like a picture was taken. Please do not rely on just a coined photo to prove a card is in someone's possession as these can easily be manipulated.

Lucas00 11-25-2022 12:21 PM

Scammers in the Buy Sell Trade Section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 2287119)
I wanted to give everyone a heads up that the scammer Steven Hurley (stevenhurley92@gmail.com) is still around. This time he did not try to present himself as another board member. He indicated he only found the site recently and was not registered despite seeing my post in the BST section regarding some E92 red crofts. As most of the board probably knows, I'm quite familiar with these cards and either own or know who owns most known examples. The seller advised he had a Davis for sale along with a few other random E92s. I immediately recognized the Davis and knew the card was not owned by the scammer. I also recognized the scan of an E92 Barry as those from the seller Tonyetrade. Consequently, I decided to play along and see what additional information I could gather. The seller provided some purchase history of the cards including that he bought the Davis in 2011. The Davis sold in REA, however, the card was later sold again on Ebay by a board member in 2017. The Barry is still listed on Tonyetrade's site. The seller was asking for a little over $2300 for the two cards.



As additional information, the seller was willing to accept a check for payment and provided me an address in Triangle VA to send payment. The payment was to be sent to Amevi Akpakpo. The seller indicated that this was his father. I was able to find a listing for Amevi Akakpo at the address provided and GIS records indicated the owner of the property is Alidou Mauridjanatou. He also provided his instagram account as @officialnashcards.



One of the items I would caution folks with about these scams is the seller offered to coin the cards. Below are the images sent back. As you can see, the card are layered onto a generic photo background to make it look like a picture was taken. Please do not rely on just a coined photo to prove a card is in someone's possession as these can easily be manipulated.



Ahahaha, Great work. Gotta love when these scammers “trap house” with their real names gets exposed. Would be a real shame if somebody called a landlord and made a few complaints.

Oh and his instagram is 100% fake/bot followers. You’d think a scammer would know to hide his fake followers.

babraham 11-25-2022 12:31 PM

Nice investigative work on that one.

eliotdeutsch 12-01-2022 10:34 PM

I was just scammed by the same @officialnashcards

He had a Gmail account under the name Chris Whitt.

Be careful out there!!

Leon 01-16-2023 07:45 AM

Ya'll still need to be very careful, and the warning stickies in the BST sections are staying for now, but we think we did some security updates to Tapatalk to help stop the scammers from getting in. Please stay vigilant.
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Lucas00 01-16-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2304815)
Ya'll still need to be very careful, and the warning stickies in the BST sections are staying for now, but we think we did some security updates to Tapatalk to help stop the scammers from getting in. Please stay vigilant.
.

Was wondering why I couldn't access the forum for about 30 minutes last night.
Great to hear!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0cca3050d4.jpg

edtiques 01-16-2023 06:19 PM

Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?

Casey2296 01-16-2023 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305011)
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?

If he bids on your stuff just post invalid bid in response, we'll get the message.

Leon 01-16-2023 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305011)
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?

I think you can block anyone except a moderator :). That said, I would like to know if anyone doesn't pay. If he did it to you, he's probably done it to someone else. Transactions should go smoothly over there. I am always a PM away.
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Jim65 01-16-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305011)
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?

Why not reveal who he is? I see no reason to protect people who do this.

edtiques 01-17-2023 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2305034)
I think you can block anyone except a moderator :). That said, I would like to know if anyone doesn't pay. If he did it to you, he's probably done it to someone else. Transactions should go smoothly over there. I am always a PM away.
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Thank you for your response Leon.

It happened a while ago and the auction went for so little I rather not reveal his name.

I haven't listed much in the BST section since this happened but am planning on doing some listings in the near future. That's why I brought the question up now.

bnorth 01-17-2023 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305093)
Thank you for your response Leon.

It happened a while ago and the auction went for so little I rather not reveal his name.

I haven't listed much in the BST section since this happened but am planning on doing some listings in the near future. That's why I brought the question up now.

Just straight up tell them you don't want them to bid on your stuff. If they do reveal they never paid last time. I know that is exactly what I done to 2 members.

bobbyw8469 01-17-2023 06:52 AM

I had one person not pay for his auction wins as well. Only one. He too, was a long standing member. Mine too, was for a small amount (under $50). I don't wish to see him booted obviously, but your story has me intrigued if it was the same person.

BobbyStrawberry 01-17-2023 09:45 AM

I am surprised to read that people are OK with members winning their auctions and then not paying and ghosting. I seem to recall a comment from Leon when the new auction section was being discussed that anyone who did that would be removed from the site.

Leon 01-17-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2305164)
I am surprised to read that people are OK with members winning their auctions and then not paying and ghosting. I seem to recall a comment from Leon when the new auction section was being discussed that anyone who did that would be removed from the site.

So, generally, there has been a tiny bit of leniency. If no one is out any money, and someone says they can't do the deal, for whatever reason, they usually aren't banned or suspended on a first issue. That said, if they don't do anything, no communication or follow up etc.... then yes, I don't think they should be here. Why should they be?
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BobbyStrawberry 01-17-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2305165)
So, generally, there has been a tiny bit of leniency. If no one is out any money, and someone says they can't do the deal, for whatever reason, they usually aren't banned or suspended on a first issue. That said, if they don't do anything, no communication or follow up etc.... then yes, I don't think they should be here. Why should they be?
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That makes sense to me Leon, thanks for clarifying.


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