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Trigerb7 10-10-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2272098)
can someone please call judge judy and move this along to the watercooler section!

You have made a great point I’m done. I will let the sharks continue.

Dead-Ball-Hitter 10-10-2022 12:06 PM

Hey Slapsticker, is it possible you have a local sasquatch that periodically rifles through your mail and may have initially taken these cards (only to later return them) so that you were confused at first and blamed the seller for not sending them?? Perhaps that's how they were available for you to resell almost immediately after "finding" them?

Just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here Pinsmacker.... :eek:

G1911 10-10-2022 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by commishbob (Post 2272083)
Calling you out as a scammer and laughing at your clueless responses does not equal stalking.

'Stalking' is serious business. What's being done to you is what cats do with a small ball of yarn.

To be fair, post 101 threatens that someone might commit violence against him, and 103 is a threat from someone else that people know where he lives. This guy is a dirtbag fraudster moron, but...

Eric72 10-10-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272016)
...You use so many different names on here...

Are you suggesting one individual may have multiple online personas? That would be as bad as joining a website and pretending you're not yourself. Who would do that?!?!?

raulus 10-10-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2272063)
I been following this thread and I have come to two primary conclusions: (1) something is fundamentally wrong with this Paul fellow (I don’t know how else to say it in a politically correct way); and (2) because of 1, no rational question, response or appeal to Paul will elicit anything other than a response that reaffirms that something is fundamentally wrong this Paul fellow.

That said, this is a top 5 thread of the past few years!

I'm almost convinced that English may not be his first language. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm getting that sense based on the action here.

Leon 10-10-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2272143)
I'm almost convinced that English may not be his first language. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm getting that sense based on the action here.

English is his first language. Think uneducated, backwoods simpleton, gone awry.


edited to add, my apologies to backwoods simpletons.
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raulus 10-10-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2272156)
English is his first language. Think uneducated, backwoods simpleton, gone awry.
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Interesting. I guess that explains a lot.

JollyElm 10-10-2022 03:03 PM

Coming soon to a The New Directory of Collectorisms near you... :D

635. Slapnickerhappy (also Slapnick Comedy) (eponym)
The group demeanor of net54 members anytime an obvious scam jockey shows up and laughably thinks he can swindle the collectors here without everyone exposing him.

See also: Splat Personality - when this offender tries to pretend he is not the very person everyone in the thread is referring to, and his attempt fails miserably.

bass37 10-10-2022 05:03 PM

some guy from Kenner LA uses many names. He blocked me first. Now I am blocking every name he is using. Facebook and ebay. I think he will get the message. acehighflush, velasj2006,

Yoda 10-10-2022 07:57 PM

Paul, nobody is stalking you. We are in a digital playground here, sort of like the Matrix. Why don't you take a valium, smoke a bit of weed and go to bed, promising to find a new "hobby" in the morning.

Mark17 10-10-2022 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2272281)
Paul, nobody is stalking you. We are in a digital playground here, sort of like the Matrix. Why don't you take a valium, smoke a bit of weed and go to bed, promising to find a new "hobby" in the morning.

But be sure to come back and post something tomorrow, so I'll have something to look forward to. I'm setting my alarm clock for 8:00 am CST.

bass37 10-11-2022 06:57 AM

You are not telling the whole story my friend. There are always 2 sides to every story. Blocking someone is an awful thing to do do when in the middle of a conversation.

Tyruscobb 10-11-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272354)
You are not telling the whole story my friend. There are always 2 sides to every story. Blocking someone is an awful thing to do do when in the middle of a conversation.

I'm late to the party, but just read through the thread. I have a few questions that may help you explain what happened, and assist you in telling your side of the story.

1. The deal only involved 10-12 cards. I cannot image they came in a big box. You claim to have overlooked two cards, but then allegedly found them several days later.

Where were the cards hidden? How did you originally overlook them?

2. The private text/message thread indicates that the poster gave your grandson some free cards. You responded that they made your grandson smile. The same cards are now listed for sale.

How do you explain listing the cards for sale that allegedly brought joy to your grandson?

I don't know what happened or who, if anyone, is at fault. These are just a few questions that I think need answering.

bass37 10-11-2022 07:52 AM

remember there are always 2 sides to every story.

butchie_t 10-11-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272368)
remember there are always 2 sides to every story.

yep, you are right. Your side, and the truth.

Diametrically (adverb (with reference to opposition) completely; directly: [as submodifier] : two diametrically opposed viewpoints.) opposed under these parameters.

Why are you still here? BTW

Butch Turner

Leon 10-11-2022 08:30 AM

Unbeknownst to the scammer, everyone but the emperor, sees he has no clothes on.
And to clarify your statement. There is his side, and his side, that he thinks we don't know about. IQ has to be right below a rock. This farce won't last too much longer.

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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2272372)
yep, you are right. Your side, and the truth.

Diametrically (adverb (with reference to opposition) completely; directly: [as submodifier] : two diametrically opposed viewpoints.) opposed under these parameters.

Why are you still here? BTW

Butch Turner


earlywynnfan 10-11-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272368)
remember there are always 2 sides to every story.

We're all waiting for your -- sorry, his -- side of the story. Why are you posting cards that were for your grandson??

Why is that so hard to answer?

parkplace33 10-11-2022 09:18 AM

This may be the funniest thread I have ever read on Net54 :eek:

EddieP 10-11-2022 09:33 AM

Man, this guy’s slow. 1) He still hasn’t figured that we know who he is and 2) it took him over 2 years to found out there was a post on Net54 dedicated to him.

brianp-beme 10-11-2022 09:40 AM

I believe I have the answers to the following questions.

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Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2272358)
I'm late to the party, but just read through the thread. I have a few questions that may help you explain what happened, and assist you in telling your side of the story.

1. The deal only involved 10-12 cards. I cannot image they came in a big box. You claim to have overlooked two cards, but then allegedly found them several days later.

Where were the cards hidden? How did you originally overlook them?

Cards can be sneaky little bastards prone to scurrying to dark places upon exposure to light.


2. The private text/message thread indicates that the poster gave your grandson some free cards. You responded that they made your grandson smile. The same cards are now listed for sale.

How do you explain listing the cards for sale that allegedly brought joy to your grandson?

Obviously the grandson smiled greedily in anticipation of a monetary windfall when these cards were sold.

Brian

bass37 10-11-2022 09:41 AM

That is a good term to use "SHARKS" I would match my ebay scores with anyone on this site. Including the "SHARKS" I think this is a total waste of my time. But at least I tried. I will continue buying and selling since 2002. I will keep posting on net54 only to buy and sell.

jayshum 10-11-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieP (Post 2272400)
Man, this guy’s slow. 1) He still hasn’t figured that we know who he is and 2) it took him over 2 years to found out there was a post on Net54 dedicated to him.

I've been reading this thread, but I didn't realize until after your post (that made me look back at the dates) that it originally started 2 years ago then was revived in September because a different net54 member encountered the same guy. Hard to believe how long this has been going on for.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 10-11-2022 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272406)
I will continue buying and selling since 2002. I will keep posting on net54 only to buy and sell.

Sweet! I've been looking for somebody repudiable to buy things from. Really itching for a '56 Killebrew. Got anything?

Yoda 10-11-2022 09:52 AM

Paul, after all this, I seriously doubt anybody from this board would be the slightest bit interested in dealing with you. Caveat Emptor.

G1911 10-11-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272406)
I will keep posting on net54 only to buy and sell.

I have doubts you’ll survive long enough to get on the BST.

Leon 10-11-2022 09:54 AM

Oh, I doubt that will happen.

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272406)
That is a good term to use "SHARKS" I would match my ebay scores with anyone on this site. Including the "SHARKS" I think this is a total waste of my time. But at least I tried.[B] I will continue buying and selling since 2002. I will keep posting on net54 only to buy and sell.


JollyElm 10-11-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bass37 (Post 2272406)
I will continue buying and selling since 2002.

Uh oh, guys, be beddy, beddy careful. It now appears that Mr. Slap 'n Tickle has a time machine, too!!!!!!

Dead-Ball-Hitter 10-12-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2272478)
Uh oh, guys, be beddy, beddy careful. It now appears that Mr. Slap 'n Tickle has a time machine, too!!!!!!

Hey Slap'n'Tickle, is your favorite movie Back to the Future?

Can you go back in time and find the items you said weren't in the envelope and return them to the honest seller who was kind enough to also throw in free items for you?

BTW, how are the grand kids doing with their PC?

ullmandds 10-12-2022 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Ball-Hitter (Post 2272732)
Hey Slap'n'Tickle, is your favorite movie Back to the Future?

Can you go back in time and find the items you said weren't in the envelope and return them to the honest seller who was kind enough to also throw in free items for you?

BTW, how are the grand kids doing with their PC?

really? the bear did NOT need poking!

Dead-Ball-Hitter 10-12-2022 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2272733)
really? the bear did NOT need poking!

Yeah, sorry, I guess our collective comments have brought life to some crazy banter.... a reply is likely forthcoming... "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

What can I tell you, I guess I'm starting to like this guy, Paul, he's a misunderstood genius of commerce! He comprehends even the subtle principles of mercantilism and imperialism! He's destined to be a titan in the world of sports collectables! How can one not be when you obtain most of your inventory for free? What a (disturbing) trendsetter this Slabstealer guy is!

loubrown 11-16-2022 11:54 AM

I know this thread kind of died off a month ago but as I'm just noticing it came back to life, I have to say that I am stunned that this deadbeat is still skulking around scamming people basically in broad daylight.

And as I see that he is on here and seeing all this and defending himself after it was completely revealed that he was scamming people left and right, Paul - you are a really bad guy. I love the old I'm on a budget and trying to get cards for my grandson line that he's used over and over again. What a POS.

Leon 11-16-2022 12:24 PM

He has been banned for several weeks, but he was on here.

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Originally Posted by loubrown (Post 2284134)
I know this thread kind of died off a month ago but as I'm just noticing it came back to life, I have to say that I am stunned that this deadbeat is still skulking around scamming people basically in broad daylight.

And as I see that he is on here and seeing all this and defending himself after it was completely revealed that he was scamming people left and right, Paul - you are a really bad guy. I love the old I'm on a budget and trying to get cards for my grandson line that he's used over and over again. What a POS.


loubrown 11-21-2022 11:39 AM

Glad to hear that. I wish Ebay was as responsive!

Trigerb7 03-29-2023 12:19 PM

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He is at it again, slapnicker needs to be jailed.

jchcollins 03-29-2023 12:20 PM

Yep, saw on that page yesterday. I mentioned in the comments that we had problems with him on N54.

Leon 03-29-2023 01:34 PM

a recent postcard pick up.
 
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I think Paul is sitting in this postcard picture. He said he caught a 200 lbs. sailfish.
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Trigerb7 03-29-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 2327922)
Yep, saw on that page yesterday. I mentioned in the comments that we had problems with him on N54.

What’s up John, I’m just glad he is on one of the biggest know Facebook groups around. What a lowlife.

Trigerb7 03-29-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2327948)
I think Paul is sitting in this postcard picture. He said he caught a 200 lbs. sailfish.
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Hahaha

Vintage Vern 03-29-2023 03:23 PM

I'm guessing he can fill all my Verne Clemons needs? I need his contact information, he's been blocked yet again. Always my luck to come to the party too late to fill my list.

Dead-Ball-Hitter 03-29-2023 03:31 PM

Slapsticker is mixing it up again... oh my!!

But seriously, defrauding someone for the sale amount of a card of that value should involve jail time. Unless the whole thing is a joke???

He knows PSA doesn't issue 9.5s, right?

G1911 03-29-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Ball-Hitter (Post 2327982)

He knows PSA doesn't issue 9.5s, right?

He doesn’t know. This is the guy who was too stupid to read that his name was on all of the posts he kept making and that we all knew who the Bass poster was. Not knowing a PSA 9.5 doesn’t even exist sounds exactly like this dipshit - very low effort scammer.

Directly 03-30-2023 06:21 AM

eBay authentication process
 
The authentication process may have been developed to help prevent fraud--once a card is receive and authenticated, they forward on to the buyer--

If the buyer tries to return the card, I assume the item first goes back through the authentication process, but not sure--??

bnorth 03-30-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Directly (Post 2328087)
The authentication process may have been developed to help prevent fraud--once a card is receive and authenticated, they forward on to the buyer--

If the buyer tries to return the card, I assume the item first goes back through the authentication process, but not sure--??

Yes unless you have it set to no returns. I still offer 14 days and if the seller returns it the item goes back through authentication so the buyer can't scam the seller by returning something different. The authentication thing is amazing in so many ways by getting rid of the tricks scammers use.

JustinD 03-30-2023 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2328096)
Yes unless you have it set to no returns. I still offer 14 days and if the seller returns it the item goes back through authentication so the buyer can't scam the seller by returning something different. The authentication thing is amazing in so many ways by getting rid of the tricks scammers use.

I did not know this, and yes it does seem to be very helpful.

Not to do the cliché' "walked to school uphill both ways" moment, I remember in the 90's and eBay was sending a money order to the seller and then they would send the item. The postal clerk thought I was a weirdo getting 25 money orders at a time each visit.

I never once, not a once got ripped off because the feedback system worked pretty decently.

It would have been a snap to rip off people but we just live in a different time, different society, different attitude. More so, I guess it was too niche to bring these clowns on too.

Jim65 03-30-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2328102)
I did not know this, and yes it does seem to be very helpful.

Not to do the cliché' "walked to school uphill both ways" moment, I remember in the 90's and eBay was sending a money order to the seller and then they would send the item. The postal clerk thought I was a weirdo getting 25 money orders at a time each visit.

I never once, not a once got ripped off because the feedback system worked pretty decently.

It would have been a snap to rip off people but we just live in a different time, different society, different attitude. More so, I guess it was too niche to bring these clowns on too.

Back then you could leave feedback for anyone at anytime, even if you didn't buy/sell to them. Also some sellers would extort positive feedback from buyers by holding their feedback back. Buyers were afraid of retaliatory feedback. The feedback system now still has flaws but its better than it was.

Yoda 03-30-2023 10:57 AM

I really thought that Net 54 had chased this guy into the wilderness, but I guess not.
Two points. He claims that Mick is graded a PSA 9.5 (impossible) and posts a nice scan of him. But where is the slab, the evidence we need. Of course, it's not there. I think there are probably better scammers in the first grade than Paul.
And. Leon, in that cool pc you posted, I believe mustachioed Paul is the gent on the far right, slouching in the chair, hat pulled down to disguise his evil face. When the other guys asked about the 200 pound sailfish, Paul admitted that he ate it all on the way....raw, including the bill.

bnorth 03-30-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2328141)
I really thought that Net 54 had chased this guy into the wilderness, but I guess not.
Two points. He claims that Mick is graded a PSA 9.5 (impossible) and posts a nice scan of him. But where is the slab, the evidence we need. Of course, it's not there. I think there are probably better scammers in the first grade than Paul.
And. Leon, in that cool pc you posted, I believe mustachioed Paul is the gent on the far right, slouching in the chair, hat pulled down to disguise his evil face. When the other guys asked about the 200 pound sailfish, Paul admitted that he ate it all on the way....raw, including the bill.

To the bold part. Yes that is 100% true. The thing most people don't get is scammers can be extremely stupid and still scam tons of people. They only have to be smart in one small area of life to be able to be a successful scammer. That is why you see bad baseball items from $1 to millions of dollars. There is a scammer for every part of the hobby.:)

I have also noticed in life those that always complain about being scammed and act worried about it are most likely to be scammers.

Gorditadogg 03-30-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2328143)
To the bold part. Yes that is 100% true. The thing most people don't get is scammers can be extremely stupid and still scam tons of people. They only have to be smart in one small area of life to be able to be a successful scammer. That is why you see bad baseball items from $1 to millions of dollars. There is a scammer for every part of the hobby.:)

I have also noticed in life those that always complain about being scammed and act worried about it are most likely to be scammers.

Yep. And people who talk about how dumb scammers are, are the most likely to be scammed.

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JustinD 03-31-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 2328104)
Back then you could leave feedback for anyone at anytime, even if you didn't buy/sell to them. Also some sellers would extort positive feedback from buyers by holding their feedback back. Buyers were afraid of retaliatory feedback. The feedback system now still has flaws but its better than it was.

I get that there was the flaws, any system does.

Admittedly, I stopped selling on eBay about 3 months after the removal of leaving negative feedback for buyers. The option to block buyers with negative feedback scores or even without minimum feedback (I had mine set at a minimum 10 positive feedbacks to bid) kept my bad buyer experiences at a number near nonexistent.

All it took was less than 12 weeks of a buyer free-for-all for me to drop out for the past 15 years or so of selling on there.

bnorth 03-31-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2328444)
I get that there was the flaws, any system does.

Admittedly, I stopped selling on eBay about 3 months after the removal of leaving negative feedback for buyers. The option to block buyers with negative feedback scores or even without minimum feedback (I had mine set at a minimum 10 positive feedbacks to bid) kept my bad buyer experiences at a number near nonexistent.

All it took was less than 12 weeks of a buyer free-for-all for me to drop out for the past 15 years or so of selling on there.

In my experience I get about one bad buyer/seller every 100 transactions. Luckily nothing serious but a PIA.

The feedback system is completely worthless IMO. I just looked and one of the long time eBay scammers has a little over 10K feedback at 100% positive. This guy is such a long time scammer i remember talking about him back on the eBay forum section when they still let you post about scammers on their site.


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