Oscar must be super cool.....he’s taking up a lot of pennant space!

New pickup ... one of seemingly 50 variations of ‘48 and ‘54 Indians pennants. This one has the 1948 roster. Never saw this before ...

Will have some more Retro Clean updates to follow ... I’m so bored!!!

That's a cool looking pennant, Greg. Must be rare if it is new to you.

great find and a really cool pennant greg. congrats!

Great find, Greg....

That one is super tough and a very cool/unusual pennant. :)

Picked these two up in the last few weeks. Priced too cheaply to pass up. They have to be at least 100 years old. Both 34" excluding tassels. Anyone have any idea who the maker would be on these? Chicago Pennant Co. was around at that time.

I've found a similar pennant (but not exact) using the same font and a circle shaped graphic, as on the Harvard pennant. The tag on that one reads: Henry Schwartz of 15 Ann St New York.

Domer...Does that name meaning anything to you?

Those are fantastic, Rob...

About as early as they come, and amazing condition considering their age!

Rob those are awesome! Especially the Harvard pennant .... never seen anything like it.

Thanks Mark and Greg...I had never seen this Harvard pennant before either. What was intriguing to me is the similarity of the players uniform to the uniforms worn in this 1890 team photo. Harvard's uniform seems to have changed by the time the 1900s roll around. Makes me wonder if this could be from the 19th century.

I'm sure there are people here more familiar with Harvard football history than I. Would love input if anyone has any theories on this pennant.

Those are great, Rob. Carlton Hendricks is a big Yale collector, I think.

A few quick questions

1) I want to get an Oakland A's pennant from their 4 world championships in Oakland. A quick eBay search reveals their 1972 WS Championship, 1973 (shows 1972-73) and 1989. However, I dont see a 1974 championship pennant. Was one ever made?
2) I was going to buy ultra pro pennant holders and then display them horizontally. What is the best material to stock the holders to the wall? or is there a better way to display
3) These pennants aren't really high end, but how do i ensure they are authentic and not reproductions.

Appreciate the insight.

Taylor

I can only answer your 2nd question. I use two medium size 3m command picture hanging strips on the back of the pennant case. Just make sure you clean the application spots with rubbing alcohol and follow the directions and they hold well. I use a cardboard template so I can be certain I apply the strips in the same spot each time for every pennant so if I want to change the display I just pop one off and put up a different pennant.

Edit to add that Amazon sells the hanging strips in large packages at much cheaper prices than stores like Staples.

The Harvard Player in the pennant is wearing what they called a Union Suit, Circa 1890 - 1910. See links for a couple of examples...

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/406168460137653954/


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/387098530451774794/

A great pair of TOC era Pennants!

Costco is even cheaper, if you need a slew of them!

1) I’m sure they did. Keep looking.

3) It’s doubtful anyone has reproduced pennants of this vintage. Even your earliest one will probably be made of the synthetic stuff that replaced wool/felt.

Good stuff Mark. Thanks! I thought I googled every possible combination but never came across these pics.

Did a Google Images search and found this pic, only one that came up that shows ‘74. What’s interesting is the MLB trademark ... observe! I actually use thumbtacks for my holders, one in the upper LH corner through the plastic, and one by the tip (not through the holder) on which the holder rests. It’s in a basement with cheap paneling, which is almost a cork board at this point ...

These are great pennants and ones I thought about bidding on! They are NOT Chicago Pennant Company pennants. They are likely from an earlier time period when the Ivy leagues ruled the rue of college football.

Chicago Pennant Company pennants or ChiPenCo have:

1. Tassels cut vertically and NOT on a bias
2. Tassels have the same color as the pennant backing
3. Lettering in the same color as the binding strip on the end
4. Hand sewn felt for the logo and the lettering.

Does anyone make UV proof plastic or softcover cases for oversized pennants?

The largest I know are standard 33X12 plastic cases. It is a real pain in the a** when I get an oversized pennant and have the logo partially sticking out of the end of the case.

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These are my favorite BTW The University of Chattanooga Moccasins

Recently picked up a few more Tiger pennants for my collection. The 1939 pennant I just happened to stumble upon in a Detroit Tiger face book page. The 64 picture pennant is in rough shape. I have several and it was dirt cheap so I figured I'd pick it up and try my luck at cleaning / bleaching to see how it goes.

Great pennants guys. Jordan that injun pennant is super cool!

Great pennants! So, I've never once come across that maker you identified: Henry Schwartz of New York City. I don't know that the two pennants were made by the same maker ... could be. Hard to say, right? The two letter fonts used are similar; but not identical.

That style of font was used throughout the 1910s by several pennant makers that had adopted the screen printing method for felt pennants; and, you couldn't replicate this font via any other method (i.e., sewn letters).

The fact that they were screen printed tells us they were made after 1907; probably closer to 1910, when this method became more widely used.

The most obvious candidate for either maker was The Reproduction Co. of New York City. They are believed to be the first manufacturer to patent and manufacture pennants via the screen printed method. With that said, they tended to use the same stock graphic illustrations; and these don't appear to be ones they used. Two other possibilities: Annin; and Langrock Bros., both of New York City. Both followed Reproduction Co.'s lead in adopting screen printing by the early 1910s.

Although Chicago Pennant Co. opened its doors by 1910, I don't believe they made these. Their earliest pennants all had labels that clearly identified them by name and address; and, I don't believe they ever screen printed a pennant in the 1910s (or ever?). Their early stuff was all sewn letter; and by the 1940s, they used primarily flocked graphics.

Ahhh yes. Thanks Kyle. I forgot about The Reproduction Company. I did a quick scan of your website to see who was around back then and they weren't listed. Will you be doing an article on them?

There is a yellow version of that one as well.

NM

Okay somebody explain this Lelands auction to me. I just got a red one in REA for an even grand that came in a frame that might have cost half that alone. This one is exploding. I think this one is slightly better condition, but is blue the harder color than red? My searches seem to come up about even.

Whatever the case, if one of you wins it, and you want a frame made just for this pennant ....

What do you guys think of this? Another Net54 member alerted me of it. Any tough pennants in there? What do you think it would have done on ebay?

https://www.equip-bid.com/auction/74...173?offset=160

I'll explain it like this:

If I'm selling, I get the red price.

If I want to buy, it goes for the blue price. :cool:

[QUOTE=ooo-ribay;1989402]What do you guys think of this? Another Net54 member alerted me of it. Any tough pennants in there? What do you think it would have done on ebay?

https://www.equip-bid.com/auction/74...173?offset=160[/QUOTE

Interesting .... looks like a good deal!

LOL...So true.

Nothing too rare in there but for that price a nice deal. It's showing as closed to me.

And on that note...Great. Now there's another website I'll be compelled to monitor for the once in a blue moon they actually have an interesting pennant. :)

I wouldn’t bother. It seems to be a local Kansas City site....altho they will ship.

i'm not a pennant collector, I'm a Dodger collector who likes pennants, and for me, the blue version is the only one I would be interested in. I personally don't like it in red, but I also won't be the one spending $5k on this one.

Yep, I plan to cover The Reproduction Co. next.

I just finished my write-up on Keezer Mfg. Co. I'll post that article in a few days.

Looking forward to both!

The annual pennant sort/reconciliation is underway. Been meaning to do this since quarantine started in March.

Nice. Please post any cream of the crop that we haven't seen!

Did you guys see this? Pretty decent price ($345) for a 10 inch pennant.

The original plan for today was to build a google album of just my baseball pennants, but once I started I realized a full reboot was in order. Only got halfway done today. My wife is a good sport.

Of course, "her half" of the bedroom looks fairly normal. ;)

Yes, please do a Google album! Love those!

Waiting for Mark to do a Google album of his $1000+ pennants. :p

Haha... very funny!

I threw out my back, bending down for hours and sorting thru them all last time. As a result, the chiropractic bills are about the equivalent of that '55 World Series Pennant (the one in in Lelands - not the one Greg "stole").

So if you want to come up to Seattle and help, I'll be more than happy to do the album! If it's any consolation, I am at least 20 miles away from the current insanity. :eek:

I think we should all go up and declare Mark’s entire collection “the Peoples’ Pennants” ....

1941 Dodgers Yankees World Series Pennant
 

Anyone buy this on ebay? Seller had it as an auction, starting bid of $800, but ended it early by selling to someone for $600. I couldn't find any past sales for it anywhere.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-WORLD-...p2047675.l2557

That would be me. I was following it closely. He eventually lowered the initial starting bid and added a “Buy it Now”, I got it for well over 600. I’d never seen a ‘41 pennant like this, no idea of value.

Would love to see your Eagles pennants... I don’t have many football, but this is probably my favorite, any idea as far as age?

That logo is similar to the Eagles logo of the 1930s, but I don't know if this pennant goes back that far. I have a full size version in green, I've always attributed to the 1950s, but it's likely older.

I've been playing around sorting out pennants for the past few days. Again the intent was a baseball project but I've back burnered that idea while I take inventory on my football. I'll take some Eagles pics and share. In the meantime, here's a few I took in the last 24 hours. I had no idea I had so many duplicate Rams.

Rob those are awesome! Very cool Rams pennant on eBay, not sure if still active, with a full body ram graphic.

Can’t wait to see the Eagles and the baseball pics.

By the way, do you know if there is a “Steagles” pennant in existence? I have seen the Cardinals-Steelers pennant but not Phil-Pitt.

Great pickup Greg... You got it for a pretty nice price. His original $800 was a bit steep, but I think it's worth every penny you paid. I have the 1940 Tigers/Reds WS Pennant with same exact graphics and double-scroll. But yours is a bit rarer. Condition looks phenomenal as well. Nice pickup!

Rob- Great stuff as always. More than a few in there that I'm drooling over because they never come available. Very nice!

On a separate note, I just picked up this one. It rarely surfaces, because you had to redeem trading card wrappers to get it. And normally (if you can even find one) it's badly faded and/or soiled with cracked graphics. This one was the nicest I'd ever seen, and was a nice upgrade for me....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-GO-...rdt=true&rt=NC

I'll be looking to sell my existing one, which grades VG, and is more faded than the one linked above. If anyone is interested, please reach out for pics/pricing via email or PM. Thanks!

That’s the Rams one I mentioned in my last post! Very cool pickup!

Thanks about the ‘41 pennant. I’d never seen it before and image search comes up empty. I paid a BIN of $740. A tick steep? but I’m trying to get something from every Bkn Dodger WS season, don’t have 1916 or 1953.

I’ve seen this style pennant for the ‘39, ‘40 series and I already had ‘47. So I wonder if the years in between were made. My guess is the 1939 Yankees-Reds pennant was the oldest to show a “scroll” of player names. I wonder if we can find the maker of these .... (Domer?)

Would love to know the maker as well....

Greg, I have seen that one pushing $1,000 on more than one occasion. Not sure if it has ever hit 4 figures, but has come very close. You did fine with the price!

Saw this and thought about it. I look for dated Yankees pennants like this. I have not seen it before either. Nice buy Greg.

Wish I knew, too. There were several different scrolls used throughout the 1940s ... perhaps from multiple different makers.

I don't think it's by Trench. They used the same white, narrow, single name scroll throughout the late 1940s-1980s. It looked different than this....

Warning sign. :cool:

I was thinking the same thing. :)


Greg...Here are some of my better Eagles. I thought the pennant I had like yours was full size, but it's not.

Rob,
Those are incredible groupings.

Really nice, Rob, thank you. The picture pennant is especially awesome, looks like great condition. You have any football scroll pennants? I’ve only seen two ... Browns and Bills AAFC. And some college bowl pennants ...

I can only remember the Bills coming up for auction once and there were other pennants in the auction I wanted more, so I didn't make much effort.

The Browns, I've seen a few times. The first time was a long time ago, before I could bring myself to spend more than $150 on a pennant, so I didn't even try. Then, about three years ago on ebay, and I thought I had a rock solid bid only to see it sell for about $500 more. It ended up going for close to $1300. Clean Sweep had one in even better condition a couple years ago, but I wasn't interested in spending over $1300 when there were other pennants in the auction that I wanted and it ended up selling for only $750, which was lower than my bid in the ebay auction a year earlier. So...Long story short...I don't have either. :)

Holy mackerel

Again ... if the winner is anyone on the board, I got a swell custom frame specifically for this pennant ...

Keezer Mfg. Co.
 

It's been a while since I posted anything over on Pennant Fever. The past three months of sheltering-in-place has afforded me the time to write some new content. This week I posted a story on Keezer Mfg. Co., a fairly well known and much admired pennant maker based in New England. You can find it here:

https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog.../keezer-mfg-co

Additionally, you'll find new content over on Pennant Factory, including a ca. 1960 Oakland Raiders (AFL) pennant re-make; and a ca. 1950s Collegiate of Ames "Mascot banner" re-make that both turned out nicely. See:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/

As many of you know, there's not a lot of places to look for information on these companies and their products. I rely heavily on you all for much of what I know. So, for those of you that contribute to this thread on a daily basis, or kindly allowed me to use your photos, THANK YOU.

KB

Hey all,

I am starting to sort through about 60 pennants given to my wife and I after a grandfather passed away a few years back. There are about 30 collegiate pennants.

Rumor has it, he would go to Nebraska Cornhusker games and buy the pennant of the opposing team as a souvenir. We'll, I did some looking to try and verify that. According to that logic, this Syracuse pennant would be from 1961.

Does that timeline add up based on the look of the pennant?

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Looks like it

This is great, Kyle. Thanks. The only thing I would add as to why I think people like the Keezer pennants is that the designs are often so different from other makers (e.g., Astros). Different design plus difficult to find (for some) makes them great to chase.

Question for the group. What's the best way to reattach a photo to a picture pennant? I picked up a small collection this past weekend and 2 of the picture pennants came with the photos detached.

This should do it - any clear glue stick. Not anything like crazy glue. It won’t show through to the other side. And I would only put a little bit on the edges or corners.

Also because they are well made, the stitching doesn’t come loose and this keeps the tassels attached. Nothing beats Trench as far as the designs, though ...

As I wait to see what else Fballguy found in his Spring cleaning, I'll add this photo (not mine) to the ongoing collection of old pennant photos.

That’s a great photo Marc

I hate seeing this thread work it’s way down the page, so here are my pennants from the under appreciated Boston Braves:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/h8Xqqf5ZS5N8dvx39

NOTE: Dead link ... I have to fix this tomorrow

Greg, the album isn't coming up for me.... not sure whether something went wrong, or perhaps it's my computer.

Eager to see the Braves collection but (while waiting) here's a rare Milwaukee Braves that I picked up recently. Rare might be an understatement, as this is the first and only one I've ever seen.

Of course now that I said that, I bet there's one already sitting in Greg's collection (which I can't see :o )

Mark that’s awesome! I saw that just go up on eBay. A rare one with two colored tassels. And no I don’t have it, never saw it before either. Congrats.

I’ll try to figure out what the deal is with the link. I think I have to create the album in a laptop first ...

This should work ...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/h8Xqqf5ZS5N8dvx39

Phenomenal Greg...

Some very rare ones there, and love them all. Especially the top two in the first column.

Great stuff!

Mitleth- That Syracuse pennant looks like it is in great condition are all the others that nice?

Fantastic, Greg!! Do you know how many total pennants you have??

Thanks Rob. I have about 500-600 pre-1969, and another couple hundred from 70s to mid 80s packed away never to be seen again. About 75-100 football. I have 190 baseball pennants on display in the basement/game room and 25 in the home office .... only problem is, when it comes time to sell, I’m gonna flood the market! I’d better start soon :) Or somehow create more pennant collectors!

I bid on this one for resale, but wasn’t your underbidder. I have seen tons of Mil Braves pennants on the past as I’m in Mpls, but I’ve never seen that one. Condition looks outstanding as well. Great grab Mark

Fantastic pennants! Please don’t stop posting. There are a lot of voyeurs out here who love to look!

Thanks Jason...

It was one of those situations where the underbidder drove up the price way higher in the last 5 seconds with his snipe. I have a suspicion about who it was, but also believe they would've gone higher and won it, had they really wanted it.

Either way... very happy to get it, as it's almost impossible to find new ones these days (especially on eBay).