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ooo-ribay 01-05-2021 01:43 PM

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Bocca alerted me of these patches on ebay. They have the same Giant shown on the late 50's NY and early 60's SF Giants pennants. Do you guys think the patches and pennants would have been made by the same maker? The patches are 4.25"; the pennant shown is 20." As I remember, the batter in the middle and ball at end is typical of some maker but I forget who...

perezfan 01-05-2021 02:59 PM

That Giants Pennant is circa 1951. The Patches are probably 7-8 years more recent.

Like so many of these logos, it looks like the Giant Mascot lost some of his fine detail through the years. Cool stuff!

thetahat 01-05-2021 03:12 PM

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That Giants Pennant is circa 1951. The Patches are probably 7-8 years more recent. Cool stuff!

The company is WGN, which can be deduced from Kyle’s great research. And Mark is spot on with the date, due to the Cubs pennant from this very limited series. A couple of notes which I believe I touched on a long while ago. First, the logos from this series can be found on the back cover of “Inside Baseball for Little Leaguers”, with copyright 1956. Interesting to see all the pennant logos except a couple ... notably the Reds mad bomber was replaced by the mustached guy that Keezer used.

Secondly, as a side note, for four years I owned and managed a team in a summer collegiate league, with nickname Giants. So where did I get the idea for my logo?

perezfan 01-05-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2053066)
The company is WGN, which can be deduced from Kyle’s great research. And Mark is spot on with the date, due to the Cubs pennant from this very limited series. A couple of notes which I believe I touched on a long while ago. First, the logos from this series can be found on the back cover of “Inside Baseball for Little Leaguers”, with copyright 1956. Interesting to see all the pennant logos except a couple ... notably the Reds mad bomber was replaced by the mustached guy that Keezer used.

Secondly, as a side note, for four years I owned and managed a team in a summer collegiate league, with nickname Giants. So where did I get the idea for my logo?

Love that...

We've seen the "olde time" mustached Reds guy on a pennant, but has anyone seen that particular Phillies mascot? I have not, and gotta believe it simply doesn't exist. WGN used the Blue Jay for the 1951 pennant, but by 1956 that logo was history. Would love to see that Batting Quaker version surface!

thetahat 01-05-2021 05:25 PM

Nope I’ve never seen it either.

Domer05 01-06-2021 04:20 PM

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...as a side note, for four years I owned and managed a team in a summer collegiate league, with nickname Giants. So where did I get the idea for my logo?

Did you trade mark your adaptation of this maker's logo, too?

If so ... that's smart because I'll bet you that manufacturer, if it was WGN, did not do so.

thetahat 01-06-2021 06:09 PM

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Did you trade mark your adaptation of this maker's logo, too?

If so ... that's smart because I'll bet you that manufacturer, if it was WGN, did not do so.

Yep, sure did.

Domer05 01-06-2021 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2053031)
Bocca alerted me of these patches on ebay. They have the same Giant shown on the late 50's NY and early 60's SF Giants pennants. Do you guys think the patches and pennants would have been made by the same maker? The patches are 4.25"; the pennant shown is 20." As I remember, the batter in the middle and ball at end is typical of some maker but I forget who...

So, apparently, this company offered several variations within this player-in-the-name series: a full length version with a player positioned in the midst of the city's name; and a shorter version--with no such player, due to the shorter length of the pennant.

I've also seen a Brooklyn version that measured 10" in length, also with no player. It was otherwise identical to the full length version of the same Brooklyn pennant from this series.

So, perhaps there were three versions? A 30", a 20", and a 10"?

ooo-ribay 01-07-2021 06:05 AM

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So, apparently, this company offered several variations within this player-in-the-name series: a full length version with a player positioned in the midst of the city's name; and a shorter version--with no such player, due to the shorter length of the pennant.

I've also seen a Brooklyn version that measured 10" in length, also with no player. It was otherwise identical to the full length version of the same Brooklyn pennant from this series.

So, perhaps there were three versions? A 30", a 20", and a 10"?

Could be. I’ll keep an eye out for a 10” Giants version. I doubt I would buy one but I’d report back with my findings. :p

perezfan 01-07-2021 11:15 AM

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Thanks guys.

Well, what I lack in patience - I make up for in foolishness. :)

I found the posts earlier in this thread about cleaning pennants and decided to give it a go because the Tigers pennant is fairly cheap and I wanted to practice. I'm pretty pleased with the result.

What may not have been obvious from the "before" photo was some pretty bad discoloration above the tiger and at the tip.

I covered the spine and laid the pennant flat in the bath and then sprayed the bleach. Then I ran it under the faucet to rinse it off. I think next time, I'll tape it on the shower wall like Rob suggests. The black ink ran a little bit, but as others mentioned I used copious amounts of water and that rinsed off with no problem.

I think I've now achieved blissful over-confidence so I'll probably gamble with the Yankees pennant. The photo on the pennant looks to be fastened with staples so I don't think it will be too tough to get if off for cleaning.

Here's a nice compliment to Gary's Tigers Pennant. I didn't want to out the auction while it was live (and mess up someone's chances of winning), but this is one you rarely see.... a near perfect match!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-194...p2047675.l2557


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