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ALR-bishop 06-25-2022 09:33 AM

Since those 4 are mine, which I hunted down after Thomas posted his. I agree the defect can be ground on cards with either back. Reminds me of the 52 Yellow Tiger House that can be found on both the regular and scarce grey back versions

steve B 06-25-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliphorn (Post 2236834)
Yes, I was the one who posted this. I realize it is impossible to show the front vs. back since scanning does not work that way, but I azure you that this is accurate.

Well that just makes me blue..... :D

4reals 06-29-2022 10:15 AM

78 Niekro - seems to be an uncorrected print defect. I looked through a couple hundred examples without a correction.

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Elberson 07-09-2022 09:17 PM

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Found a 1964 topps 127 with ……..3 versions

1…..Heavy ink over flow
2……light ink over flow
3…..regular version

Elberson 07-09-2022 09:36 PM

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Sorry one without blob

G1911 07-10-2022 11:56 AM

Looks like there is a second gray blob over Simpson's name and position as well. I found several online, so it looks like this Gatewood variant isn't too tough to locate.

G1911 07-10-2022 11:59 AM

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I recall there are other 'fairly large blob of one color with scribble looking mark of another color in the center of it' cards in 1961 Topps. Haven't seen this one before and don't see another. Anyone know of another copy?

Now that I'm posting it I notice it appears the black border at top left is misshapen. Will have to see if that's on them all.

aronbenabe 07-12-2022 12:11 PM

Just discovered an interesting “print error” (?) from one of those 80s Junk Era cards…does this have any value? Has anyone else seen this on Topps cards?

Does it consist of a new “error,” to be added to a (growing) list of errors from this 1987 Topps series?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2c5ff11087.jpg
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ALR-bishop 07-12-2022 01:21 PM

Buddy is currently available at a bargain price on ebay :)

aronbenabe 07-12-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2241815)
Buddy is currently available at a bargain price on ebay :)


I assume that’s a polite way of saying “nice try, but no payday.”


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G1911 07-12-2022 02:21 PM

It’s a defect, but the $999 you are asking for it on eBay is about 10,000 times it’s worth.

ALR-bishop 07-12-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aronbenabe (Post 2241823)
I assume that’s a polite way of saying “nice try, but no payday.”


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Beyond my pay grade but there may be a big pockets 1987 Buddy Bell collector out there. Never hurts to ask.

savedfrommyspokes 07-12-2022 05:36 PM

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it’s a defect, but the $999 you are asking for it on ebay is about 10,000 times it’s worth.

Just wow.

aronbenabe 07-12-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2241856)
Beyond my pay grade but there may be a big pockets 1987 Buddy Bell collector out there. Never hurts to ask.


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Elberson 07-15-2022 11:57 AM

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Gray, lite gray and regular for the 1964 Topps 127

ejstel 07-15-2022 09:21 PM

Extra cloudy day near the factories in St. Louis?..i've seen 2 like thishttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...14fd7cc16b.jpg

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ejstel 07-15-2022 09:25 PM

Was replying to the 1970 ollie brown post a few earlier....I have about 30 or 40 different 1970 like this (2 white lines) in case anyone is collecting them/ is interested.

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G1911 07-15-2022 09:28 PM

Cool one, just snagged a Schofield.. Batters box has one at $1.70 for anyone else. Looks like it’s fairly uncommon but not super tough.

butchie_t 07-15-2022 10:30 PM

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Shout out to Cliff!

You are the MAN and thank you so much for putting me onto this card.

I hope to somehow return the favor one day.

Butch

Cliff Bowman 07-16-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2210098)
#136 in the 73 set, Earl Weaver with the brown background has this black line as a recurring variant. I haven't looked carefully, but don't have it on the orange background version of Weaver's card.

I could only find one Al Oliver with the line and no Carlton Fisk cards with the line but it's possible it stops on the Oliver.

Cliff Bowman 07-16-2022 10:29 AM

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I found Plummer and Biittner with the line so it affected at least Weaver, Oliver, Fisk, Plummer, and Biittner, I couldn't find any Blyleven, Harrelson, Caldwell, or Harrah cards with the line but it no doubt runs through at least Blyleven. I have had a 73 Aparicio with a line at the bottom for years that I never knew what to make of, I believe now it was above Al Oliver on one of those 1973 sheets where they printed 66 cards twice rather than all 132 cards, I never understood why Topps used that method in the early 70's.

e6phillips 07-16-2022 04:00 PM

Short Prints
 
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I know that these differences in the amount of red ink on his face don't really make a variation, but they are a new kind of "Short prints"!

nolemmings 07-17-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2241155)
I recall there are other 'fairly large blob of one color with scribble looking mark of another color in the center of it' cards in 1961 Topps. Haven't seen this one before and don't see another. Anyone know of another copy?

Now that I'm posting it I notice it appears the black border at top left is misshapen. Will have to see if that's on them all.

I have one of those Yastrzemski's with red alligator in neck. I'll try and dig it out.

** Found it. Actually it looks more like a lobster:
https://photos.imageevent.com/imover...ge/1961yaz.jpg

G1911 07-17-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2243461)
I have one of those Yastrzemski's with red alligator in neck. I'll try and dig it out.

That confirms it’s recurring. I’d like to see it if it’s no trouble, if this is one of those variants where there’s multiple versions of the printing issue. I can’t find other examples online yet.

G1911 07-17-2022 08:15 PM

Ha, you found it as I was typing. Your example is much nicer, mark looks the same to me on both copies.

Recurring means I have to go buy a proper one now for my set. Dang it!

butchie_t 07-20-2022 06:22 AM

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I picked up the following recently.

The 71 orange checklist hats are giving me fits. I really have a tough time seeing the color differences between them. I have a few more checklist variations to go and the 71 set should be done for what I have been looking for.

Butch

ALR-bishop 07-20-2022 08:21 AM

On the Hyatt the white dot version can be found with or without the botched i in his name. Anyone know if the botched i can be found on non white dot versions ?

minerschina902 07-20-2022 08:35 AM

Scammer

ALR-bishop 07-20-2022 10:00 AM

I always suspected that Topps might have hired a Chinese firm to add various random recurring print defects to their cards

butchie_t 07-20-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2244255)
I always suspected that Topps might have hired a Chinese firm to add various random recurring print defects to their cards

Maybe we can request some additional ‘limited’ runs to fill in some holes. :p

Butch.

Cliff Bowman 07-20-2022 01:18 PM

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G1911 07-20-2022 05:13 PM

I always thought the "Printed in U.S.A." on the back of Topps cards was BS. I knew it was really done in China.

ALR-bishop 07-20-2022 06:33 PM

And Dave Hornish and Woody Gelman helped cover it all up

G1911 07-20-2022 09:19 PM

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And Dave Hornish and Woody Gelman helped cover it all up

Woody stole all the credit. We know what happened. After Mao saw his Bowman card, he went to work with Topps and secretly relocated them to China.

BobC 07-20-2022 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2244315)
Shouldn't this be in the Buy/Sell/Trade Section?

Cliff,

Please do all of us a favor and DO NOT EVER QUOTE ONE OF THESE OBVIOUS SCAMMER POSTS when you want to make a comment about them. When you quote the post, it copies what the scammer posted in your response, including the potentially dangerous link the scammer included. No one knows if that link is safe, or if it could lead someone that errantly clicks on it to get hit with a virus, or something else, maybe even worse.

And it creates even more work for Leon who now has to delete the original scammer post, and potentially dangerous link, and now do the same with your post where you copied/quoted what the scammer wanted everyone to see, including that potentially dangerous link.

Just trying to look out for everyone's online safety.

G1911 07-20-2022 10:12 PM

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Many Posts come like this, with hugely different aesthetics, like Pancho who is red in one card.

There's a real variation here though, the pictures are different. Note the cropping at his hand.

Elberson 07-21-2022 11:24 AM

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Ok, with me liking to read the back of cards, I found a 1967 topps 548 Tony Gonzalez with a blotch of whiteness on the back, I’ve looked at all listed on eBay and haven’t found another, anybody seen before?

G1911 07-21-2022 11:46 AM

My Gonzalez is clean, but I have seen this on a number of other 1967's in different series. I think it's one of those issues that can, theoretically, affect pretty much every card in the set. Don't see them that often, but I haven't paid a whole ton of attention to them. Too many for me to chase!

EDIT: I'm glad I'm not the only one who reads the backs. I spend more time reading the write-ups and stats than looking at the fronts.

ALR-bishop 07-21-2022 12:15 PM

Probably at least one sheet of these out there

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...080&fit=bounds

G1911 07-21-2022 12:30 PM

I’ve never found one of the series 1 all green backs. I’ve probably spent 50 hours of my life looking through dealers boxes at shows trying…

Elberson 07-21-2022 01:00 PM

Pretty awesome

savedfrommyspokes 07-21-2022 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2244515)
Many Posts come like this, with hugely different aesthetics, like Pancho who is red in one card.

There's a real variation here though, the pictures are different. Note the cropping at his hand.

Nearly every Post cereal card has some form of image or cropping variation due to the boxes the card originally appeared on. One exception would be from the 1961 Post team perforated cards, I have not seen cropping/image variations with those. Not to say they don't exist, I just haven't seen them.

G1911 07-21-2022 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 2244725)
Nearly every Post cereal card has some form of image or cropping variation due to the boxes the card originally appeared on. One exception would be from the 1961 Post team perforated cards, I have not seen cropping/image variations with those. Not to say they don't exist, I just haven't seen them.

this is going to turn into another large box project. I hadn't noticed the crops before, just the massive color differences.

savedfrommyspokes 07-21-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2244732)
this is going to turn into another large box project. I hadn't noticed the crops before, just the massive color differences.

Several members here are experts on all of these Post/Jello variations, including one member who has published his own book on this topic. IIRC, there are approximately 550 unique 1962 Post cards (this includes the different backs). I don't recall exactly how many different 1961 Post there are, but there 190+ regular box cards plus the 160 perforated cards as well as some different cropping/image variations with the regular box cards. With the 1963 Post there seem to be fewer cropping/image variations than the 1961s. I have found even fewer (if any?) with the 1963 Jello set. I don't have enough of the 1962 Jello to know how many variations might be in that set. Finally, there are numerous variations (crop and text) with the 1962 Post Canadian set...this in one set I am content with having only one version of each card. Between the Post and Jello baseball sets from 1961 -1963 there are around 1800 unique cards.

G1911 07-24-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 2244760)
Several members here are experts on all of these Post/Jello variations, including one member who has published his own book on this topic. IIRC, there are approximately 550 unique 1962 Post cards (this includes the different backs). I don't recall exactly how many different 1961 Post there are, but there 190+ regular box cards plus the 160 perforated cards as well as some different cropping/image variations with the regular box cards. With the 1963 Post there seem to be fewer cropping/image variations than the 1961s. I have found even fewer (if any?) with the 1963 Jello set. I don't have enough of the 1962 Jello to know how many variations might be in that set. Finally, there are numerous variations (crop and text) with the 1962 Post Canadian set...this in one set I am content with having only one version of each card. Between the Post and Jello baseball sets from 1961 -1963 there are around 1800 unique cards.

I've been casually building the base sets for a year or two, but base sets always turn into master sets. Guess this one will take a lot longer to cross off than I originally thought.

G1911 07-24-2022 10:40 AM

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I don't think this has been shared yet.

The cream backs come with the A in "American" broken or printed properly. I have not seen a white back with the A correct, but I did not look very hard.

ALR-bishop 07-24-2022 03:39 PM

Had not noticed that one

butchie_t 07-24-2022 04:38 PM

Thanks Greg,

Just added one.

Butch

uyu906 07-24-2022 05:58 PM

1979 Topps Rusty Staub variation or print error
 
Does anyone else have a 1979 Topps #440 Rusty Staub with a variation on the front of the card on Staub's helmet that look like a large peanut? Is it a recognized variation?

Thanks!

bnorth 07-24-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by uyu906 (Post 2245528)
Does anyone else have a 1979 Topps #440 Rusty Staub with a variation on the front of the card on Staub's helmet that look like a large peanut? Is it a recognized variation?

Thanks!

You have a picture or a post # for it? I would guess it is a print error like almost every card in this thread. They are fun to collect but very few are actually recognized variations.


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