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This thread has all the info needed to tell the diff. I got duped a few years ago...and have a "newer" J robinson in my PC binder. These are all over FB these days being sold as Bond Bread. |
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This thread has a boatload of information regarding the Bond Bread set and the copies/imposters. Pretty sure it will answer many if not all of your q's. I know it answered mine.
Here is my Jackie Robinson, front and back for comparison. I purchased this along with the other 23 way back in May of 1990 from the Baseball Card Society. What I know up to now, it is part of the Festberg find. I kept all the BBCS documentation and even the receipt. So, I at least can track it back to there. No further for me though. There are many here that are experts in this set and the surrounding 'sets'. So, the information in the posts are solid as far as provenance goes. Regards Butch.. |
I believe that it is still an open question as to the exact nature of the square-cornered cards that David Festberg sold. I do not believe that they are counterfeits made to deceive collectors: there was much better stuff to fake than dollar cards, and they didn't bother with the DiMaggio, which was the most valuable card at the time. You'd think a counterfeiter would skip Bob Elliott and go with Joe D. In my view the most likely explanation of the find was new old stock consisting of a print run of one sheet of the cards from the set that were printed and cut for something but never used for some reason, then were found in the 1980s. The print date and printer and reason for printing them, that we don't know.
But I could be wrong. I just haven't seen any compelling hard evidence as to the actual origins of these cards, nor do I think we will ever do so. That is not to say they are originals of the 1947-49 period, just that precisely what they are is still unknown. My view is get one on the cheap to have but don't say it is a RC. |
I did just that back in May of 90 when I did buy the 24 card set from the BBCS. I believe they are old I just do not know how old.
Regards, Butch |
This one WAS actually graded by SGC and they Identified as 1949 "Picture Pack"
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A SGC 7.5 sold for $31,200 (after BP). That was first one I have seen sold at auction in a little while.
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Thanks to butchie_t. Sorry so late in posting.
Member butchie_t was kind enough to provide black & white pictures of the Festburg cards some time ago. I'm sorry it took so long for me to post them.
https://imgur.com/eNTpkS2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BgCCOPe.jpg https://i.imgur.com/N1GKxo2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2XB3WPe.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tZYW0U2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8SZyTWi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XvdwbXG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ocBhz6o.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8dLP0DY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/61JgkSo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JZGJgPJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/p61Wzq0.jpg This is the tag he received with the set in 1990. https://i.imgur.com/vv0Jy4X.jpg Once again, thanks butchie_t. Sorry for the delay. Mike |
Does anyone know why the TPGs won't assign a numeric grade to these authentic 1947 Bond Bread Jackies with the rounded corners anymore? They used to give out numeric grades, but it seems as though they're only signing "Authentic" in recent years (unless I'm wrong).
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not sure but guessing its partly because so many with rounded corners originally had square corners? To me, all the uncertainty around the bond bread issue with with square/rounded corners makes the portrait card w/facsimile auto even more desirable. Its really is in a class by it self and stands far above the other issues.
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need help on Bond Bread Cards
Hi all
New here need help on bond bread cards. I am in the process of doing a book on them and need card info. I need L/W and thickness on all bond bread cards. Round corner square corner the Jackie Robinson set the exhibit set to. forget the two-sided set to. I need the sizes and thickness on all the cards and will take pictures on any of these cards front and back please. If you can please help me out. thanks alton |
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