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thetahat 11-27-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2039407)
I'm hoping to rely on the collective knowledge of Net54 to help educate me on these 2 pennants that I picked up recently. They're 8.5" x 11". I've seen some listing showing them from 1969. Any info (manufacturer, date, value) would be appreciated.

Hi Gary, I’m not the football pennant expert here but my educated guess is 1969-72, made by Trench, and would fetch $25-35 apiece on eBay. They are very rare and very cool!

thetahat 11-27-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2039396)
Circa 1968. Nothing here too rare, I don't think. The pennant behind the speaker says "1968 LA Dodgers vs. NY Yankees."

Now this is very interesting .... as it shows a family of pennants and dates them. Clearly not Trench, not Ad Flag, not ASCO .... if I had to guess, it’s the unknown company who made the 1958 LA/SF Opening Day pennant, and mid 50s WS pennants.

bobw 11-27-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2039396)
Circa 1968. Nothing here too rare, I don't think. The pennant behind the speaker says "1968 LA Dodgers vs. NY Yankees."

It's actually a 1963 World Series pennant that they made an 8 from the 3.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...71a25421_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...907d9499_h.jpg

ooo-ribay 11-27-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobw (Post 2039456)
It's actually a 1963 World Series pennant that they made an 8 from the 3.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...71a25421_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...907d9499_h.jpg

Ahhhh. Interesting.

Domer05 11-27-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2039407)
I'm hoping to rely on the collective knowledge of Net54 to help educate me on these 2 pennants that I picked up recently. They're 8.5" x 11". I've seen some listing showing them from 1969. Any info (manufacturer, date, value) would be appreciated.

I think these were made in the 1960s; however, I believe these were made by ASCO--not Trench. ASCO made very similar fish tail pennants (with circular photo cut-outs) for certain Minnesota Twins players throughout the 1960s; and, along with Trench, they had a license from the NFL to do so that began in the mid-1960s, which would account for the presence of the NFL shield on these.

I think they're cool. Good pick-up.

UKCardGuy 11-27-2020 04:19 PM

Thanks guys. That's really helpful.

thetahat 11-30-2020 05:44 PM

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Okay this won’t interest anyone else but I am really jazzed about these ... three different purchases last week, three mint ASCO cloth pennants. The Royals is hard to find without fading and the Pirates is hard to find in general (in cloth). Tigers must be from 1967 or 68 since it is clearly same company but no MLB. (The Tigers ‘69 ASCO is orange and not too uncommon.) ... I have still yet to see a cloth Giants ‘69 pennant in this series.

thetahat 12-02-2020 07:39 PM

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Finished decorating the new wall, decided to put all of my stadium pennants on it. Generally not the most valuable but they display the best IMO. 45 more pennants brings the total to 205 full-size pennants on the walls in one room. Here are some observations about these Trench stadium pennants, in addition to KB’s great insight on his blog:

1. It seems that with one exception, there are at most three or four variations for each team in terms of the ballpark graphic and the logo used. This doesn’t include color variations. ... The Tigers have by my count 11 different versions, including the 1969 Tiger with crown. I have nine of them.

2. The Reds might have the only one on white. It’s probably my favorite.

3. No stadium pennant for Phillies, Senators I or II, Twins, Colt 45s. Every other team has one.

4. I think these started in 1956-57, with the earliest having the TMC trademark.

5. The Mets and the SF Giants have them but they are notably ... different (in a good way). The artwork just doesn’t look the same even though they look great. I don’t have any SFG ballpark pennants but I’ve seen Marc and Rob’s. I’m including a pic of two Mets pennants, top is Trench and bottom is ASCO ... yet the ballpark graphic looks identical.

6. The green paint is almost always faded to yellow ... or were they made that way on most pennants? The White Sox strangely have the most vivid colors.

7. Trench did these for Buffalo and Indianapolis in the IL and AA. They are on my wall. Would love to know if any other teams exist (Toronto? Rochester?)

Oh well thanks for reading. It’s gonna be a looong winter.

perezfan 12-02-2020 11:40 PM

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Looks amazing Greg!

I love your yellow KC Athletics. So rare to find the yellow version, and it's very attractive in that color. And the other KC Athletics (with the Dumbo-like Elephant) is probably my favorite of all... tied with Mr. Red riding on his Bat above Crosley Field.

Also.... Does this one count as yet another Stadium Pennant for the Tigers? Seems like it straddles a fine line....

ooo-ribay 12-03-2020 05:58 AM

I love it, Greg!

How do you affix them to the wall? I’m assuming those are all in rigid holders?


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