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Archive 03-01-2008 10:48 AM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>Jim B,what you write makes sense.<br />it's ludicrous how Blimpy publically calls out people he does not like while circumventing people he has purchased cards from! he won't face the music and ask "All" dealers if they have altered cards! he defames Doug Allen but does not address Bill Mastro or Rob L or Dave Foreman on matters he "claims" concern for.<br /><br />Sorry Jim, sentiment is not sacrifice! Do the due diligence and get back to us on what the these guys have to say or go away as many are no longer listening! <br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 11:21 AM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Patton</b><p><br /><br />...what ever happened to ole Peter Chao?<br /><br />

Archive 03-01-2008 11:41 AM

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Posted By: <b>DMcD</b><p>Last I heard he was doing a radio show with Jeff L.

Archive 03-01-2008 11:46 AM

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Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Peter C. and Jim C. aren't the same person?

Archive 03-01-2008 12:22 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Spent Three and a Half Hours Today at the Reading Show--had a lot of interesting conversations and bought some neat cards.<br /><br />1)First and I guess most importantly I bought my first SGC cards ever--all vintage golf. Four Bobby Jones cards--1926 Lambert & Butler(SGC 96),1927 British American(SGC 88),1927 Churchman's Small(SGC 88) and 1927 Churchman's Large(SGC 84).Thanks to Mike Dobrynio as I start my move into vintage golf.<br /><br />2)Aside from this transaction(which was prearranged) I didn't find too much I needed--5 Basketball 1971 Topps Trios from my friend Andy Madec and a 67 Kahn card I needed.<br /><br />3)Sat down with Doug Allen who made a passionate defense of his integrity and said he would never alter a card and would fire anyone who did. He called his taking out a light crease comment a poor choice of wording, said he was talking about wrinkles, got into a discussion of applying pressure versus undo pressure on a card and I think told me that applying pressure was okay. He said he has written a two page explanation of his practices which he was going to post here. I would buy cards from Mastronet but probably not expensive cards unless they gave me the option of showing them to Kevin first.<br /><br />4)Speaking of showing cards to Kevin first, in speaking with my friend Bill Goodwin he said any cards I wanted to buy could be run through Kevin--absolutely no problem--not sure he was referring to cards on auction or just those for sale.<br /><br />5)Had a long talk with Dave Forman who was of course delighted to see I had bought 4 SGC cards and even more delighted to hear I would be collecting all my vintage golf in SGC--at least to thec extent possible. Biggest smile I have ever seen on him. Dave said that February was his best month ever and was optimistic March would be equally good. He did not attribute it to PSA's half grade policy change. He was of course delighted to have Derek Grady working for him full time.<br /><br />6)Gave my first batch of cards to PSA for a review. My 1963 Fleer set(67 psa 8s). All the chatter around the show was how difficult getting the 8.5s were.<br /><br />7)Aside from the gentlemen mentioned I chatted with Ted Z who is a delightful guy, Joe Tauriello from Set Builders who is a very nice man. met the famous Bruce Dorskind, spoke with long-time dealer Wayne Varner who bemoaned the fact(also mentioned by others) of how difficult it is to obtain high-grade vintage cards, long time friend Peter Lalos(Champs and Bums) who said he was getting more and more into non-sports. Among others I said hello to were JP Cohen, Brian Drent, Locker Room guy and a few others who I am forgetting.<br /><br />8)The only unpleasant thing was seeing Alan Rosen standing by the entrance looking to grab anyone who looked like they may be selling cards--yuck.<br /><br />Overall, a great way to spend half a day.<br /><br />Jim

Archive 03-01-2008 12:25 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Now this thread officially goes into the Hall of Fame.<br /><br />-Al

Archive 03-01-2008 12:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>Aaron Patton</b><p><br /><br />...does putting this in the HOF...mean all Jim's cards will go up?<br /><br />Peter??

Archive 03-01-2008 12:48 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Whomever the person was that logged in as Peter C got banned (again?) and his post deleted.....anyone that is banned, or is an anonymous troll, will have their post deleted and be banned immediately.....For the record I never had that much of an issue with him...I had much more issue with a few others...regards

Archive 03-01-2008 01:17 PM

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>First time on this thread. Just wondering why no one has commented on the video link that was submitted about 10 posts ago. I watched it but almost turned it off when I saw Oprah (she is only on for about 15 seconds before the dying man's lecture. Truly amazing. Hope others watch it.<br />Jim- Say what you want about John (Wonka) he is a helluva nice guy and has never posted an arrogant post or belittled anyone other than those whose balloon's needed a little puncturing. I think this whole thing comes down to the old "armpit of the hobby" issue. There are some very nice guys who are Registry guys and collect the highest grade of cards but if I want to share a beer or talk about the hobby, give me a vg guy any day. Some of us have collections a helluva lot nicer than you think....

Archive 03-01-2008 02:20 PM

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Posted By: <b>D. C. Markel</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />I'm glad to hear the Reading show was worth the trip.<br /><br />Now, I have a question for you Jim. Do you keep track of everyone transaction you make, such as recording them on an Excel Spreadsheet like I do - documenting the price paid and from whom?

Archive 03-01-2008 02:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>my bark is worse than my bite and I at least brush my teeth!<br />plus, I tailed off on the confrontational stuff as there are plenty of others who are better at it though two faced. They pretend to be fair and friendly and impartial and all that then slam you behind your back.King Solomon would never pretend to be impartial then slam someone who does perform as they think they should. To them,facts become "conveluted". (the vocabulay word of the day circa 2005-6*).<br />Anyway,just tired of Jim and his hypocrisy.If you're going to depose people as he attempts at least ask and expose the confessions/denial of everyone such as Dave and Rob whom he has not seemingly had it in him to ask about their direct dealings in card alterations(if any*).he talks about who he can trust but fails to investigate his own standards for such! So ask them Jim,did Rob or dave circulate altered cards into the market THEY personally tampered with???<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 02:57 PM

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />No--I do not.

Archive 03-01-2008 03:14 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Bob,<br /><br />Yes there are some great collections out there in all grades. <br /><br />Sure I would get along with Wonka if I met him. Don't believe there is anyone in the hobby who I have met that I dislike.<br /><br />Anyway, you are a classy guy--thanks for posting.<br /><br />Jim<br /><br />

Archive 03-01-2008 03:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>D.C. Markel</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />I'm a bit surprised by your answer. So you don't have any idea how much money you've spent on your cards? Not that I'm baiting you for a figure, but if you ever sold your cards how would you know if you made or lost money on them?<br /><br />I also find it strange for someone who is so concerned about altered cards being put into circulation by "supposedly known" as well as unknown sources that you don't keep track of where your cards came from. Hypothetically, what if eBay Dealer X gets legitimately exposed as a major card doctor, and by your eBay feedback it becomes apparent that you've made at least a dozen transactions with this seller over a five year period. How would you handle that situation?<br /><br />

Archive 03-01-2008 04:10 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jim, sounds like you had a busy day...thanks for the rundown of the show.

Archive 03-01-2008 04:22 PM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>jim- have to say, good post, good report (i posted a little something about the reading show in that thread)...<br /><br />D.C.- for what it's worth, i have never recorded my purchases...even tho i have a horrible short-term memory, i do have a semi-photographic memory when it comes to cards, and can pretty much tell you how much i paid for every card i've owned. i don't have 20,000+ mind you, but have owned tons over the years.<br /><br />

Archive 03-01-2008 04:23 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan Markel,<br /><br />To clarify, I keep a running total of how much I spend each year and I save all my checkbooks. So if I bought 1 card I would generally make a nnotation of who it was from and what card was and total but if I buy 4 61T cards I would just say 4 61T --I use this just to keep records of whether I actually recived them or not, not who I got them from. <br /><br />Dan Bretta,<br /><br />You're welcome--it was fun--my bodyguard though was expecting more.

Archive 03-01-2008 05:14 PM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>you asked Doug about his personal touch on cards !<br />What did Dave have to say????<br />Surely you asked him if he has tampered,altered,pulled a crease out,airbrushed,trimmed or any other manner of restoration to a card!<br /><br />let's hear it! What did he say on the matter?<br /><br />And how about Rob?<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 05:31 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey Jim, while you were asking Doug and Dave all the questions Brian wanted you to ask them, did you ask them if they ever shilled an auction? Or committed any fraud in connection with their businesses?<br /><br />Let's hear it! What did they say on the matter?<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> &lt;----- Insert smiley here

Archive 03-01-2008 05:35 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Brian Daniels,<br /><br />Stop harrassing me.<br /><br />You know what the answer is. Doug came on the boards--said that taking light creases and wrinkles out of cards was fine. Dave Forman and Rob Lifson have made no such admission. I have asked dealers to come on here and explain their policies and few have taken me up on it. I am not going on a witch hunt and asking different people if they have altered cards.<br /><br />If would like the answers ask them yourself.

Archive 03-01-2008 05:36 PM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>what does Dave or Rob say about their hands on or off involvement of pressing out creases ET?<br />restoring and trimming?<br /><br />Did you get a response yet as to whether or not they have personally did these things??????<br /><br />Let's get on this Jim,I am receiving e-mails on the issue of your integrity and/or true desire to expose/clean up or note who has done what!<br /><br />no comment on me stating Doug has not personally done these things to cards!!!<br /><br />You wouldn't protect people you purchased cards from for any reason now would you? Why would you do that? Hope you kept record of who you purchased what from over the short time you have been collecting....<br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 05:54 PM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>the harassing ignorant card grader is YOU! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />I don't need to ask them anything because<br /><br />a) I have been around cards a lot longer than you and already know the answers*<br />and<br />b) I have the confidence to grade cards without the plastic or anyone else's opinion based on my knowledge and experience you lack so don't need to go on a witch hunt or a chat board begging other's to validate to me that my collection has thousands of trimmed and altered cards which the rest of us all know you have! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />You have to rely on dealers and third party people to feed your ego.<br />I just collect cards and have immitated you in my postings on this thread,what you call harassing is what you have done on here for six months now according most other's you ignore. I have pity on your stupidity and methodology in collecting. You would be better off dieting while collecting Pogs!<br /><br />BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 05:57 PM

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Posted By: <b>DD</b><p>BcD,<br />That's a bit harsh, like the man or not. We know you have been around cards alot. We also know that when Tango <br />Eggs are discussed that you disappear.

Archive 03-01-2008 06:07 PM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>I respond to most any thread about them when I feel I can offer something on the subject that has not been gone over 20 times.And if you have a question,write me an e-mail and i'll get back to you! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />On your original comment, I do not like or dislike Jim!<br />I merely point out he is afraid of what he does not know and ignores truth....<br />truth he claims to seek. On his efforts,again sentiment is not sacrifice. Just a Guess DM's inquiry above is when the cards inevitably get re-evaluated Jim will be surprised as to who told him what and where his bogus cards came from.<br /><br />BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 06:29 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Back to reality--funny Jeff--I also asked them if they beat their wife.<br /><br />Thought I might see you there.<br /><br />

Archive 03-01-2008 06:45 PM

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>yourself Jim,it would tell these folks a lot. it is however against the rules.<br />Of course,this has a lot more to do with your character than it does your ignorance of card grading. I sent you a note to remind you as to what you have claimed and how it has shown not to be true on here.<br /><br />BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 03-01-2008 07:19 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, this week I was cross-examining a cooperating witness in a federal trial and the witness had a history of domestic violence. While I was getting him to recount the various times he had beaten his many women, I couldn't resist and asked him, "When did you stop beating your wife?" The judge interrupted the answer and said, "Please tell me I didn't hear what you just said?" I replied, "I've always wanted to ask that question!" <br /><br />

Archive 03-01-2008 07:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff--funny! <br /><br />I would have loved to have heard that.

Archive 03-02-2008 03:21 PM

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Posted By: <b>Rawn Hill</b><p>There are many more cards that have not been graded ( degraded ) than you think. These may have come from the players themselves and are just in private, ungraded collections.<br /><br />Just my Two cents worth for a party from afar,<br /><br />Rawn

Archive 03-15-2008 07:18 AM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Great news from my first submission of psa 8s that I gave PSA at the Scranton, Pa. show a couple of weeks back.<br /><br />I gave them my 1963 Fleer set(67 PSA 8s).<br /><br />Overall there were a total of 19 upgrades--15 to psa 8.5 and 4 to psa 9. The jumps to 9 were an added bonus. I should get the full list on Monday.<br /><br />

Archive 03-15-2008 10:27 AM

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Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>You have gotten bumps in a significantly higher percentage than seemingly the dozens of colleagues I have who have similarly submitted to PSA. Good on ya, mate.<br /><br />Which group/set are you submitting next for review?

Archive 03-15-2008 11:55 AM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Must be that keen eye that every one of the 24,000 psa 8s I own had to look like a 9.<br /><br />Don't know whats next--I didn't know what was first until 10 minutes before leaving for the show. I am hoping Joe sends a couple of his graders to a hotel near my house and we could knock off several thousand at a clip.

Archive 03-15-2008 12:10 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jim- you did get some impressive results. Do you think you get special treatment because of your status in their hall of fame?

Archive 03-15-2008 12:14 PM

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Maybe I should have Jim submit some of my pack-fresh modern cards to PSA so that they'll give me higher than a 6. Grotesque.

Archive 03-15-2008 12:26 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Barry,<br /><br />No, I don't.

Archive 03-15-2008 12:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>That was my hope too, but I was curious to hear how you felt.

Archive 03-17-2008 07:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Well, of my 19 upgrades most were commons except for Brooks Robinson, Ron Santo, Bobby Richardson and Ken Boyer.<br /><br />The good news is that I am number 1 in the Richardson and Boyer player sets on the registry and my 9 of Jim Davenport strengthens my second position.<br /><br />For 1963 Fleer as a whole I went from 17th tie(8.00) to 14th(8.12).<br /><br />Not bad for not buying any cards and a minimal expenditure on grading fees.

Archive 03-17-2008 07:59 PM

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Posted By: <b>Rich Klein</b><p> isn't there a big annoucement coming at Lehman Brothers (which I've gathered is your employer) tomorrow. <br /><br /> Just curious as to whether I'm correct as to tomorrow (Tuesday) is an important public day<br /><br /> Regards<br /> Rich

Archive 03-18-2008 04:06 AM

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Rich,<br /><br />Lehman reports earnings at 8am this morning and the conference call is at 10am. The company is in good shape.<br /><br />Jim


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