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The Dodgers are already playing with house money when it comes to Ohtani. He's already a bargain at present value $461mm.
Why not let him pitch if that's what he and the global Dodgers / baseball fan base wants? If he blows out his elbow and is out for a year, the Dodgers can say they at least tried. If they don't let him pitch and force him into a DH role, it's very franchise value destroying on so many levels. |
Just saw Ohtanis 250th homer.. Looked and sounded like a deep fly AT BEST. How he pulled a very outside pitch with such a "weak" swing on a curveball 384ft is unreal.
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Yeah, I saw that also. He's a bad bad man, even when he's off. I think The Athletic recently surveyed MLB players and asked which player they wanted to watch the most. Ohtani won in a landslide.
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Ohtani is scheduled to be starting pitcher on Monday against the Padres.
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"Ohtani CARDS are Mostly UNDERVALUED"
I fully disagree! 1. I share the opinion of most MLB players. Sure Ohtani is very good. But he's not 10x or 50x as good as the average player which his salary indicates. 2. His cards are correspondingly overvalued. They're all just pieces of cardboard like any other from the set. Shohei Ohtani and Joe Shlobatnik cards are fundamentally near identical. Why some collectors choose to chase/covet just certain cards from a set and drive their prices to nosebleed levels is beyond me. :rolleyes: |
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But coveting certain cards is the basis of pricing for the entire hobby, not just Shohei Ohtani cards. Why does Babe Ruth cost more than Marv Throneberry? Why does T208 cost more than T207? Why does PSA 8 cost more than PSA 7? Why does the first card of a player cost more than the last card? Hobby pricing is just supply and demand and right now there is high demand for Ohtani cards. Whether that demand will continue and thus maintain his card prices is unknown. [By the way, don't stop too long to think about why we pay money for cardboard. If everyone does this, the entire hobby will collapse!] |
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I know...every now and then I ask myself why I would rather have this card than the money I spend on it that could go towards literally anything else in the world *...and then I buy the card anyway.
And, yes, obviously we all know why certain cards cost a lot of money...it is the wide disparity in pricing that sometimes makes you go "woah". * not "anything" but you get my drift |
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Is it nostalgia? I can remember times when I could not have thought to own some of the cards I have today. I think at the end of the day for me, I still like looking at them although I will not own them forever. Enjoy them while you can. All cardboard is essentially worthless. But heck we buy it anyway. |
I'd just like to add that I'm not disparaging Shohei Ohtani as a player. How many decades has it been since an effective pitcher could hit as well as Ohtani? More than a century perhaps?
:) But what are the rarest Ohtani cards? Are any XX/10 rare? :confused: |
The Topps, Chrome, and Update cards and the more common variations (e.g. Refractors which have long since ceased to be anything special) seem to have been produced in huge quantities, but keep rising in price especially in PSA 10. What I find interesting, given that he obviously has become much more an elite hitter than elite pitcher, is that the cards showing him as a pitcher seem just as popular if not more so. Finally, with all the hoopla about him being a true two way player as a rookie, why are there so few RCs depicting him in both poses? You would think that would have been a natural choice for Topps etc.
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He has hitting and pitching variations of his flagship Topps rookies with one being rarer than the other depending on the set.
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There may be others but I found only this one with both poses on one card.
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Peter, that is one great baseball card and captures the essence of Otani as a 2 way player. Not yours by any chance?
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In today’s game, 40/40 is barely meaningful. About 50% of MLB does 20/20. Pre-steroids, maybe one or two players a season did that and 30/30 was nearly unheard of outside a scant few such as Bonds/Bonds, etc. All the Judge 60 HR seasons are a joke and cannot be compared to historic greats when 20-30 players a season hit 30+ homers today.
Today’s players make enough money to pay personal trainers, dieticians, etc. 24 hours a day, 365 days a year to keep them in optimal playing condition. In Honus Wagner’s day, he had to be some rich person’s personal trainer during the off-season just to make enough money to survive on. My how times have changed, huh? Think about that before idolizing today’s athletes and the gaudy numbers they put up. |
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Nice list. I only own a couple of Ohtani cards (for now), but I love the aesthetic appeal of this 2013 card I recently picked up. - |
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As for Ohtani cards, they aren't undervalued even now. They trade so regularly and consistently, and are tracked on multiple indices that are real time reporting on sales, that they are never undervalued. Some of his cards, like some of any superstar's cards, may be better investments than others for future appreciation. Different question, really. |
They are plunging in value tonight
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Ohtani is carrying the Dodgers!
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Ruth outhomered every TEAM in the American League TWICE! How many teams has Judge or Ohtani outhomered in their entire careers? ZERO!
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Here's another one from Japan.
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4-4 with 2 homers, 2 doubles, and 5 walks in a World Series game
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