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edtiques 01-16-2023 06:19 PM
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?

Casey2296 01-16-2023 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305011)
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?
If he bids on your stuff just post invalid bid in response, we'll get the message.

Leon 01-16-2023 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305011)
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?
I think you can block anyone except a moderator :). That said, I would like to know if anyone doesn't pay. If he did it to you, he's probably done it to someone else. Transactions should go smoothly over there. I am always a PM away.
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Jim65 01-16-2023 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305011)
Off topic:

I've sold some items in the BST section and the transactions have been excellent except for one. A long standing member bid on one of my auctions and never paid after he won. I had messaged him with the total and got ignored. Apparently, this person feels like his reputation isn't worth the $25 -$30 (I forget the exact amount) he would of had to pay for winning the auction.

I don't want to reveal who he is, but I don't want him bidding on my items anymore.

Is there a way to block him from bidding on any more of my listings other than messaging him directly?
Why not reveal who he is? I see no reason to protect people who do this.

edtiques 01-17-2023 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2305034)
I think you can block anyone except a moderator :). That said, I would like to know if anyone doesn't pay. If he did it to you, he's probably done it to someone else. Transactions should go smoothly over there. I am always a PM away.
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Thank you for your response Leon.

It happened a while ago and the auction went for so little I rather not reveal his name.

I haven't listed much in the BST section since this happened but am planning on doing some listings in the near future. That's why I brought the question up now.

bnorth 01-17-2023 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by edtiques (Post 2305093)
Thank you for your response Leon.

It happened a while ago and the auction went for so little I rather not reveal his name.

I haven't listed much in the BST section since this happened but am planning on doing some listings in the near future. That's why I brought the question up now.
Just straight up tell them you don't want them to bid on your stuff. If they do reveal they never paid last time. I know that is exactly what I done to 2 members.

bobbyw8469 01-17-2023 06:52 AM
I had one person not pay for his auction wins as well. Only one. He too, was a long standing member. Mine too, was for a small amount (under $50). I don't wish to see him booted obviously, but your story has me intrigued if it was the same person.

BobbyStrawberry 01-17-2023 09:45 AM
I am surprised to read that people are OK with members winning their auctions and then not paying and ghosting. I seem to recall a comment from Leon when the new auction section was being discussed that anyone who did that would be removed from the site.

Leon 01-17-2023 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2305164)
I am surprised to read that people are OK with members winning their auctions and then not paying and ghosting. I seem to recall a comment from Leon when the new auction section was being discussed that anyone who did that would be removed from the site.
So, generally, there has been a tiny bit of leniency. If no one is out any money, and someone says they can't do the deal, for whatever reason, they usually aren't banned or suspended on a first issue. That said, if they don't do anything, no communication or follow up etc.... then yes, I don't think they should be here. Why should they be?
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BobbyStrawberry 01-17-2023 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2305165)
So, generally, there has been a tiny bit of leniency. If no one is out any money, and someone says they can't do the deal, for whatever reason, they usually aren't banned or suspended on a first issue. That said, if they don't do anything, no communication or follow up etc.... then yes, I don't think they should be here. Why should they be?
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That makes sense to me Leon, thanks for clarifying.

gonefishin 01-17-2023 10:40 AM
I'm a pretty new member and I didn't join at all to buy, sell, or trade. I joined to share information, and learn from fellow collectors who are much more knowledgeable than I when it comes to pre war cards.

So my recommendation is: Do away with the BST section entirely.

OK, go ahead and blast my recommendation.

Jim65 01-17-2023 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2305165)
So, generally, there has been a tiny bit of leniency. If no one is out any money, and someone says they can't do the deal, for whatever reason, they usually aren't banned or suspended on a first issue. That said, if they don't do anything, no communication or follow up etc.... then yes, I don't think they should be here. Why should they be?
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Thats why I don't understand how some members feel they have to protect these non-payers. They are just pushing the problem down the line, let the next guy worry about it. If we do nothing, we're just enabling them to do it to others.

Tyruscobb 01-17-2023 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 2305184)
Thats why I don't understand how some members feel they have to protect these non-payers. They are just pushing the problem down the line, let the next guy worry about it. If we do nothing, we're just enabling them to do it to others.
I agree. A man is only as good as his word and should honor a binding contract. I've only sold a few items on the site. I would probably let it go if someone within a reasonable time after saying that he wanted to buy my set-price listed card changed his mind. Yeah, I missed out on the sale, but the card remains listed.

However, not paying an auction is a different story. The seller then has to re-list the card and wait another week to sell it. This is a pain.

HercDriver 01-17-2023 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gonefishin (Post 2305182)
I'm a pretty new member and I didn't join at all to buy, sell, or trade. I joined to share information, and learn from fellow collectors who are much more knowledgeable than I when it comes to pre war cards.

So my recommendation is: Do away with the BST section entirely.

OK, go ahead and blast my recommendation.
Consider it blasted. The BST is the only fun place to buy cards anymore. I would like to see more trading, and maybe there is, just not for what I have. And selling couldn't be easier. If you like fees, shill bids, and fake cards being sold as real, you know where to find those elsewhere...

Cheers,
Geno

Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey 01-19-2023 01:50 AM
Hope it's ok to start calling these creeps out......

alexandrineoreilly067 sent a private message regarding a post I have in the memorabilia section FS. Message stated something along the lines of "his brother had that sitting on a shelf and that I could call some phone number to verify"

Not kidding, lol, oh yeah and of course it looks like it was sent via the Tapatalk app.

JollyElm 01-19-2023 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey (Post 2305692)
Hope it's ok to start calling these creeps out......

alexandrineoreilly067 sent a private message regarding a post I have in the memorabilia section FS. Message stated something along the lines of "his brother had that sitting on a shelf and that I could call some phone number to verify"

Not kidding, lol, oh yeah and of course it looks like it was sent via the Tapatalk app.
Same here! Contacted Leon about him before seeing your post. Here's his eloquent message to me, but I assume it's computer generated as the subject title was a thread I started tonight and NOTHING made sense...

alexandrineoreilly067

Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 0
New NFL Playoff OT Rules Discussion
My brother have that laying on is shelf you can contact him via 9193989269
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

GoldenAge50s 01-19-2023 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey (Post 2305692)
Hope it's ok to start calling these creeps out......

alexandrineoreilly067 sent a private message regarding a post I have in the memorabilia section FS. Message stated something along the lines of "his brother had that sitting on a shelf and that I could call some phone number to verify"

Not kidding, lol, oh yeah and of course it looks like it was sent via the Tapatalk app.

I also got the exact same message this AM from same name/ID

Have no idea what the purpose is!

Belfast1933 01-19-2023 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s (Post 2305703)
I also got the exact same message this AM from same name/ID

Have no idea what the purpose is!
What a coincidence! This guy’s brother has my item on his shelf too… must one big-arse shelf!

(I got the same message this morning tied to the title of my own recent BST posting last month)

NATCARD 01-19-2023 05:35 AM
Cepeda Item wanted (have on shelf)
 
Maybe this guy just has a really big shelf?
Jeff W

jh691626 01-19-2023 06:29 AM
I got the same message. I'd love to see a photo of this guy's massive shelf!

Leon 01-19-2023 06:42 AM
This scammer was PM'ing in the middle of the night. :eek: I was asleep. He's gone now. I had 6 pm's and 1 email about him. I appreciate everyone letting me know.
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Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey 01-19-2023 06:53 AM
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Found the shelf!!!! Appears it's his "big brother"....... :rolleyes:

NATCARD 01-19-2023 09:10 AM
Cepeda Program
 
Maybe the program of Cepeda in his last game is in there somewhere. I hope he can find it! These scammers are ridiculous. I understand it is bulk emails but for a $25 item? Jeff W

svtPONY95 01-19-2023 12:45 PM
Got the exact same message today , beware !!

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V117collector 03-20-2023 07:49 PM
Beware
 
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Originally Posted by Jhoff122 (Post 2240192)
Another member mentioned Jack Corrigan as a suspicious actor further up on this thread. Well, Jack Corrigan responded to my post (WTB: 1985 Topps Tiffany set) a few days ago via email (not PM) simply with "How much are you willing to spend?" Interesting way to engage a potential buyer, I thought. I responded and we arrived at a price, which, not coincidentally, was the I said I'd be willing to pay. He probably would've agreed to any price I said. We went back and forth for a couple of days and the exchange got sketchier and sketchier. When I asked him for his Net54 ID he couldn't provide it b/c he "wasn't able to log in at that time." He sent me Venmo information with a different email address. I suggested we use PayPal Goods and Services (and he agreed, oddly enough) but when he sent me his PayPal address it was yet a third different email address. Anyway, keep an eye out for this guy.

Also, re: PayPal G&S, are you fully protected through that if you don't receive what you paid for? The fact that he was willing to go that route, had me wondering.
Jack Corrigan just contact me via email with scans of a 52T Robinson asking me "how much are you willing to pay?". told him to PM on this site (still no reply). did a quick search on google and this thread popped up. Just another scammer...


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