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4reals 03-25-2023 01:26 PM

1982 Topps #703 “leaf cap”. Half the fun is naming them.

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4reals 04-03-2023 12:52 PM

1981 Topps Barry Evans #72 (blob on hat)

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saucywombat 04-04-2023 02:23 PM

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I have discovered a "gold" streak variation for 4 different gold refractors from Series 2 of 1996 Finest.

Gold bar goes top to bottom in the same spot and with same width on all 4 cards.

And now also Tim Salmon...

wpeters 04-13-2023 12:11 PM

1984 Topps Traded Bret Saberhagen
 
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I noticed this one today. There is a patch of white in the pink area of the small photo. There is also a white splotch on his arm above the elbow. The blue dot above the elbow is on all the cards I have, but the white splotch is only on the cards with the white in the pink area. There is also a small discoloration between the Y and A in Royals. The two print defect cards are on the right. None of the defects are on the cards on the left, which seem more plentiful.

richtree 04-21-2023 11:59 AM

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Jeff King Yellow error and two 87 topps with same error/variation

ALR-bishop 04-21-2023 01:59 PM

I know the King is pretty tough to find, how about the 87s ?

richtree 04-21-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2333664)
I know the King is pretty tough to find, how about the 87s ?

They are some of the hardest I ever found....

butchie_t 05-14-2023 11:51 AM

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butchie_t 06-22-2023 04:12 PM

Some new ones for me today
 
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The 86 Topps Blue Streak Clemens. I have the 86 Topps Seaver on its way and the search is on for the Puhl version as well. This will be busted out of its tomb and placed into my 86 binder.

The 89 Donruss Bobby Bonilla #2 has what looks like a hand made circle top right of the card. I have seen more of these but this was around the time this card came out. I did a search today and did not find any on eBay or COMC. And I do not see this one documented anywhere either.

The 1989 Donruss checklist #600 I got today. This version is only available in the factory sealed sets that has the black bar on the top left of the back of the card (The card numbering stops at #660 and does not list the BC's that were in the wax packs on the back of the card).

Interesting thing with this card is the Front and Back are printed like a coin. Flip it top to bottom, the back is upright. Flip it left to right, the back is upside down. Note the card holder position front and back. None of the other factory checklists are printed this way, just #600.

There is one other #600 factory set only variation with a black bar on the right top and bottom of the card, I'm still looking for that one and have no idea yet if the same print anomaly is carried over to that one as well. I will find one eventually and post it when I do.

The 1990 Donruss cards show their respective variations. Yeah I know, crap set with a boat load of variations. (NOTE: I do not consider the 'Inc dot' and no 'Inc dot' to be of any significance at all to consider them worthy to collect.) YMMV.

The Grand Slam cards are missing the black line on the right side reverse of the card. Julio Franco has the "All-Star Game Performance Header" on the reverse of the card instead of the "Recent Major League Performance' Header.

The Jeff Innis has a 'scratch' in the circle. And the Dale Murphy has a black bar covering the top of his 'D' in his first name.

When I bought the case of the 90's Donruss way back when they first came out, it turned out to be a very early printing case and had danged near all the variations that are documented. So, I busted a factory set when they came out and put together almost a master set. I am too close now to not go ahead and get the final few cards to make this master set happen. 89 and 90 will be the only two Donruss sets that I mess with. I have sold or gotten rid of the rest.

But I did keep the remaining 90 Donruss Wax Boxes, and they are unopened....
(insert foot stomp here).

Enjoy,

Butch

butchie_t 06-26-2023 04:44 PM

A few more to add
 
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Now that I am in the right forum, again:

The 86 Topps Tom Seaver Blue Streak brings me down to Mr. Puhl to complete that group.

The 90 Donruss Harold Baines has the line through the yellow star on front and the All-Star Game Performance on the back header.

The 90 Donruss Grand Slammers Todd Benzinger with the red star verses yellow star on front was a nice find for me. One of the harder variations in this set of copious variations to find.

I thought I had the second 89 Donruss #600 checklist variations knocked off. But the cards and the description of the cards were two different things. Not worth it enough to file a claim or return them.

Search continues for 89 checklists.

CJtheCollector 07-31-2023 09:38 AM

1986 Topps Terry Puhl
 
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Recently bought an unopened box of 1986 Topps. Halfway through opening the packs and I've pulled the Roger Clemens, Tom Seaver and Terry Puhl. Anyone interested?

butchie_t 07-31-2023 09:58 AM

PM sent.

B.T.

butchie_t 07-31-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CJtheCollector (Post 2360325)
Recently bought an unopened box of 1986 Topps. Halfway through opening the packs and I've pulled the Roger Clemens, Tom Seaver and Terry Puhl. Anyone interested?

Post the Seaver and Clements as well, I'd like to see them all.

Butch

CJtheCollector 07-31-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2360340)
Post the Seaver and Clements as well, I'd like to see them all.

Butch

Thanks for the reply. I'll pm all three to ya. I received some kind advice to get them authenticated and graded for the good of myself and a buyer. I'll send them off this week and keep ya posted. Thanks for the input.

4reals 08-04-2023 02:22 PM

My 1986 Topps Fielder sequence. Partial border missing. #2 is the most difficult to find.

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butchie_t 08-04-2023 03:58 PM

Nice finds Joe.....you are killing me Smalls! :p

jacksoncoupage 08-04-2023 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 4reals (Post 2361668)
My 1986 Topps Fielder sequence. Partial border missing. #2 is the most difficult to find.

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Great find!

Many, many years ago, early into my variation obsession, I sorted a few 3200cts of 1986 Topps and found about a dozen or so players with recurring black ink issues on the reverse: partial or missing stats, bio info, etc. Similar to this where some had three distinct misprinting types. I can't recall who they were now but it seems like 1986 had a lot of black plate problems.

butchie_t 08-10-2023 12:21 PM

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I picked up this little gem yesterday. It will stay entombed.

Some see print defects while others see variations. YMMV!

The scratches on the front are on the slab and not the card

Cheers,

Butch

G1911 08-10-2023 01:44 PM

Little more than a print dot! That's a cool one. The Donruss is my favorite of the early Griffey's for some reason.

butchie_t 08-10-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2363224)
Little more than a print dot! That's a cool one. The Donruss is my favorite of the early Griffey's for some reason.

It looks more natural than the UD and I believe has a better upside too.

Thanks,

Butch

Elberson 08-10-2023 03:54 PM

Very cool print variation.
Pink on the hands
Pink on the helmet
Faded blue ink in rated rookie
And the really cool pink streaking after RR

swarmee 08-12-2023 04:36 AM

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Hall of Fame rookie recurring print defect?

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1982 Topps - [Base] #21 - Future Stars - Bobby Bonner, Cal Ripken Jr., Jeff Schneider
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Oval blob next to Bonner's mouth.

DVCARDS 08-13-2023 07:00 AM

1997 Bowman Eric Chavez
 
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No Bowman logo or Eric Chavez name

swarmee 08-13-2023 08:21 AM

That's just a missing foil card. They're pretty common and not specific to certain players. Just whenever a sheet didn't go through the foiling process.

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1997 Bowman - [Base] - Missing Foil #11.mif - Bernard Gilkey
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4reals 08-18-2023 01:24 AM

Just realized every 1980 Topps Goose Gossage card is missing black ink at the top right border. I suppose this would be the rare occurrence where a copy of it printed correctly would be the scarce print variation. I haven’t yet seen one.

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jacksoncoupage 08-18-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 4reals (Post 2365442)
Just realized every 1980 Topps Goose Gossage card is missing black ink at the top right border. I suppose this would be the rare occurrence where a copy of it printed correctly would be the scarce print variation. I haven’t yet seen one.

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Cool! I wonder who his neighbor is. Can't find a photo of the D* sheet.

Cliff Bowman 08-19-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage (Post 2365520)
Cool! I wonder who his neighbor is. Can't find a photo of the D* sheet.

It’s Mark Wagner and his border lines are normal.

jacksoncoupage 08-19-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2365830)
It’s Mark Wagner and his border lines are normal.

Thanks Cliff!

4reals 08-19-2023 01:45 PM

Likely not a print roller mistake as all are like that and adjoining card is not. Probably a design mistake effecting every example.


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rgpete 08-19-2023 02:01 PM

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Ken Griffey Jr a print spot on his pants leg

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RonSportscards 08-21-2023 03:46 AM

Mixed in a card lot I won at auction, was a '91 Topps baseball Desert Shield card. Took out the ole black light to find it was a glow back.

So are all the Desert Shield cards glow backs?

Also do the Desert Shield cards have a mix of light and bold anniversary logos on the back, like the base Topps baseball set?

jacksoncoupage 08-21-2023 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RonSportscards (Post 2366273)
Mixed in a card lot I won at auction, was a '91 Topps baseball Desert Shield card. Took out the ole black light to find it was a glow back.

So are all the Desert Shield cards glow backs?

Also do the Desert Shield cards have a mix of light and bold anniversary logos on the back, like the base Topps baseball set?

They are all glow backs but I believe a handful of anomalies have been found by members here.

All A* and B* sheet players have bold logos. Any from those sheets with a normal 40th logo are fakes.

RonSportscards 08-21-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage (Post 2366449)
They are all glow backs but I believe a handful of anomalies have been found by members here.

All A* and B* sheet players have bold logos. Any from those sheets with a normal 40th logo are fakes.

Perfect! Thank you.

wpeters 08-28-2023 03:34 AM

1986 Topps White Droplet
 
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I came across these two recently. I initially thought it was paper loss, but it is actually a white area on the border. It got even better when I put them together.

wpeters 08-29-2023 09:18 AM

1971 Jose Cardenal Red Ink
 
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There was something really funky with the red ink on this one.

Cliff Bowman 08-30-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wpeters (Post 2368481)
There was something really funky with the red ink on this one.

That was a kid with crayons or markers 50+ years ago.

mogwai316 09-01-2023 07:57 PM

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Weird colors on this 1981 Topps Mike Hargrove. I don't think it is "blackless" since there is black in the card text but the image, border and hat icon are all really bleached out looking. (also apparently this is what goes for "NM" on sportlots)

Compare to what it should look like: https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/si...-Mike-Hargrove

swarmee 09-02-2023 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mogwai316 (Post 2369388)
Weird colors on this 1981 Topps Mike Hargrove. I don't think it is "blackless" since there is black in the card text but the image, border and hat icon are all really bleached out looking. (also apparently this is what goes for "NM" on sportlots)

Could be missing the yellow pass, or just sun fading since yellow is the first one to go.

4reals 09-12-2023 06:08 PM

1980-present variations
 
1982 Ted Simmons #150. Line under 1972. I threw up a second copy I own to show it is reoccurring. **EDIT** after a quick visit to COMC it appears this is already a variation known by collectors, I was apparently in the dark on it.

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swarmee 09-13-2023 10:36 AM

But yours also has a second line in the 1969 year. Is that live ink or a possible 2nd recurring variation?

4reals 09-13-2023 10:40 AM

Not live ink but 82 seems to consistently have dark fibers in their card stock throughout the set. This looks like one of those “eyelash” fibers.


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swarmee 09-13-2023 11:57 AM

I thought of that, but I figured it was too coincidental because of the black line below it.

G1911 09-13-2023 12:22 PM

Simmons was discovered earlier in this thread and added to COMC in post 142. None of my copies have the 1969 line as well though, maybe there are 3 versions here. The 1972 line recurs frequently

JLange 09-23-2023 05:25 PM

1984 Donruss Bruce Hurst - sunburn variation
 
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Going through some 1984 Donruss cards and came across two Bruce Hurst cards, one of which shows a rather distinct redness on his face, like a bad sunburn. Very odd as no other colors are impacted on card.

4reals 09-27-2023 09:58 PM

1981 Donruss #373 Steve Nicosia

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frankhardy 10-01-2023 03:14 PM

I know this one is reoccurring because I have 2 of them. There is a light blue "blotch" at the top left corner of this 1988 Donruss Mark McGwire Diamond King.

Wondering if any of you have seen any of these?

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4reals 11-06-2023 10:07 PM

1981 Fleer Joe Torre #325 eyelash at left border

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4reals 11-07-2023 12:12 AM

1981 Fleer Bill Lee #157 dark dot/light dot

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JustinD 11-08-2023 02:49 PM

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1981 Fleer Bill Lee #157 dark dot/light dot

Maybe that should be the "UFO in the outfield" version for the Spaceman.

4reals 11-10-2023 03:53 PM

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Maybe that should be the "UFO in the outfield" version for the Spaceman.


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butchie_t 12-06-2023 07:36 AM

There is a nice article on cardlines dot com regarding the 1990 Topps Variations.

Here is the link: https://cardlines.com/there-is-more-...u-might-think/

jacksoncoupage 12-06-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2394683)
There is a nice article on cardlines dot com regarding the 1990 Topps Variations.

Here is the link: https://cardlines.com/there-is-more-...u-might-think/

I could be wrong but this reads like AI/ChatGPT "content."

butchie_t 12-07-2023 10:06 AM

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I could be wrong but this reads like AI/ChatGPT "content."

nope, just read the article. Just made the post.

THIS IS A RECORDING

Butch

jacksoncoupage 12-07-2023 07:46 PM

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nope, just read the article. Just made the post.

THIS IS A RECORDING

Butch

Im not sure what you mean but I will clarify what I said: the "publisher" of this site uses a writing marketing agency for these articles which contain mostly content from other published articles and discussions online, usually verbatim and without citation. This is common in creating "content" online using ChatGPT and other AI systems. The rampant typos also point to this. Everything you read in that article probably came from other people/several different sources but was prompted through software to present as a new article. I am not a fan of it whatsoever.

This site has already poached my work several times over such as my variation lists on junkwaxgems.com and my talking points in the beckett interview I did for 1991 Topps in their article for that set. There is very little actual writing or investigative work done by the "authors."

cardcop 12-08-2023 08:40 PM

Love truly crazy rare errors
 
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Sorry about caps, both keyboard shift keys broken. These are my favorite errors picked up from 1989-2008; most on ebay for under $3.00 each!

This 1989 Topps bob welch error missing the stat line is a blank front!
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I don't own this razor blade one, but it created quite a stir when it wound up on eBay.
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i pulled this myself from a pack; 04 fleer multi-signed insert (of ROY) to put into full cards- wrong player signed???
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1992 Bowman Palmeiro w/upside down base Topps QB player on back (one of my favs)
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Base Topps baseball player w/Mike Alstott gold foil name on front (love this being an a-train fan)
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1991 UD fielder A.S. W/Cyan only 91-92 hockey player on back
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Thought you'd get a kick out of these...:d

James

butchie_t 12-11-2023 07:35 AM

I'm still looking for the Welch 89T partial black stat line. Something tells me I will never find that one.

Nice cards!

Butch

Cliff Bowman 01-18-2024 07:38 PM

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I've known about this one for a year or two but I finally got around to finding a couple on eBay after searching through hundreds of 1983 Topps Dave Winfield cards. The ink blob perfectly obliterates his home run totals for three consecutive years. Not exceedingly rare but certainly not common either.

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-19-2024 12:47 PM

I've spent an embarrassingly large amount of time and money studying the 1990 Donruss set. I'm up to about ten 20-box cases, six 10-box cases, and countless rack cases. I've sorted each by case code in a spreadsheet so I could see the chronology of the E&Vs.

I started with the known list of E&Vs, which was pretty cut and dry. Then I began ripping packs and examining every card. If a card had "error or variation" material to it, it got put to the side. If another example was found in a different case from a different seller, it got added to the list. Once it got added to the list, I began accruing them.

The most interesting thing about this set is that it didn't follow the conventional "rare errors are in the earliest boxes" standard. As Donruss went in to correct one EorV, they inadvertently created two more. This process repeated itself over and over.

It's important to recognize just how nonexistent their QC was. It's as if someone called a week before product was due and said "Oh yeah, by the way, we've got to produce a baseball card set for distribution in a week." That, plus the smallest puzzle piece of the era and one of the tightest wraps just laid waste to those bright red borders. A significant portion of the earliest printing got multiple coats of red and are now known as the Magenta Run.

People always ask me "So which ones are the rarest?" Honestly, I don't feel comfortable making that kind of statement yet. What I can tell you is, the Harold Baines Line in Front of Star was in distribution for one day, and it just so happened to be the same day Donruss corrected the "AS Experience" / "Recent ML Experience" errors on the back of the All-Star cards. Theorize with that all you'd like.

I've accrued five more cases that I need to rip and will hopefully get to soon. I know these will never be worth anything but this set captivated me as a kid and was my introduction to "error boxes." I mean, this set had it all: reverse negatives, missing black lines on the back, wrong wording on every All-Star card, Nolan Ryan's switched backs, a line through the front of an All Star, wrong photos, cropping differences, and checklists variations.

Sitting in the LCS watching he grown ups rip the expensive packs and seeing each one of them gush over each error they pulled was fascinating to me. Not to mention those bright red colors and the chase to pull a Ben McDonald Rated Rookie. Every penny I spend on this endeavor is like flushing it down the drain but it's so much fun I simply don't care.

When it's all said and done, '90 Donruss will probably be the most fertile E&V set of the era (and that's not counting splatter patterns or "INC" [no period]).

And please, be a responsible collector. If you see someone advertising a Donruss card as an error because it doesn't have a period after "INC" do the right thing, kick them in the jublees.

Arthur

ALR-bishop 01-19-2024 01:30 PM

How many cards do I need for a master 90 Donruss set Arthur ?

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-19-2024 01:39 PM

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How many cards do I need for a master 90 Donruss set Arthur ?

That all depends on how hardcore you want to go. I haven't actually searched for "No Period" cards but I don't see them as vital to a master set, even though they fit the description of a variation perfectly.

I feel like I'll end up coming around on the splatter patterns because they're isolated to only certain subsets, from what I hear.

I've got 208 cards on my E&V list. I'd imagine a master set would clear 2k rather easily (on a 660 set, too).

Arthur

butchie_t 01-29-2024 09:29 AM

I was 'lucky' enough to buy an early case of 1990 Donruss Baseball Wax. (I still have unopened variation boxes too). And by early I mean lots of boo-boo's.

Between that and the factory set, and searching eBay, I came close to what I think is a master set for me. Mind you, the dot thing is not on my radar. That has just gone way beyond any comprehension for me.

Would you consider adding your list of variations and posting it here? I'd like to see how close or far away I am. I did not go into the pattern variations, Just stuck to what I was able to find in searches for the 90 Donruss variations.

I ended up busting 6 boxes to make a set and then just recently got rid of all my dupes to clear weight for a move. So at least I contributed to reducing the OVER abundance of cards by maybe less than .00000000000001%

Your cards just got magically more valuable by probably even less than that. : - )

I have considered busting some more but just have not taken that plunge yet.

Regards,

Butch

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-29-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2408824)
I was 'lucky' enough to buy an early case of 1990 Donruss Baseball Wax. (I still have unopened variation boxes too). And by early I mean lots of boo-boo's.

Between that and the factory set, and searching eBay, I came close to what I think is a master set for me. Mind you, the dot thing is not on my radar. That has just gone way beyond any comprehension for me.

Would you consider adding your list of variations and posting it here? I'd like to see how close or far away I am. I did not go into the pattern variations, Just stuck to what I was able to find in searches for the 90 Donruss variations.

I ended up busting 6 boxes to make a set and then just recently got rid of all my dupes to clear weight for a move. So at least I contributed to reducing the OVER abundance of cards by maybe less than .00000000000001%

Your cards just got magically more valuable by probably even less than that. : - )

I have considered busting some more but just have not taken that plunge yet.

Regards,

Butch

Hi Butch,

You'll almost certainly still need numerous cards because for every fire they put out they created two more. So any single case, no matter how early, is going to be missing some key E&Vs.

I know someone keeps telling people that the Baines All-Star with Line Through is only in the earliest cases. That's not true. I've opened numerous cases from numerous early dates and there were zero Baines Line Through. That card only shows up for one day in distribution and it's not the first days.

Here is my current list of E&Vs for '90 Donruss. Each example confirmed with at least a second find from another case which came from another source, so they're all recurring.

While I continue to leave it on the list, I'm dubious about the Bo Jackson DK. If anyone has a picture of one I'd love to see it.

CARD # NAME VARIATION
1 Bo Jackson - Diamond King Redone "i" in Diamond Kings
3 Ruben Sierra - Diamond Kings No Line in Top Back Border
10 Brian Downing - Diamond Kings Reverse Negative on Front
11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings Space filled in with black bump
11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings White space in bottom right front border
15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings No Red Dot by Foot on Front
15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings Red Dot by Foot on Front
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Bottom of 18 missing on back
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front, full 18 on back
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line on front & Bottom of 18 missing on back
18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Normal
20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front
20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Normal
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Fuzzy red line in DK banner
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Normal
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Thin red line in DK banner
24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings White line in DK banner
33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Reverse Negative w/ Blue Scratch Right of Hands
33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Correct w/ Blue Scratch and Dragon Splotch Near Calf
67 Walt Weiss Break in stats border on back
67 Walt Weiss Normal
67 Walt Weiss Shimmer in right black line on back
71 Barry Larkin Broken Pepper Left of Eyes
71 Barry Larkin Red pepper left of eyes
71 Barry Larkin Skinny Pepper Left of Eyes
100 Checklist 28-125
100 Checklist 28-129
111 Roberto Alomar No Dot
111 Roberto Alomar White dot right of helmet
113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 22
113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 26
125 Jose Canseco Vertical Line Below OF on Front - Yellow
130 Hubie Brooks Circle on Thigh, Scratch Airbrushed Out
130 Hubie Brooks Circle on Thigh, Scratch by Left Foot
158 Greg Maddux Dot on line below 'M' on front
158 Greg Maddux No Dot
159 Andy Hawkins Airbrushed check mark
159 Andy Hawkins Check mark in upper left part of picture
168 Dale Murphy Half line through D
170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 19
170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 9
173 B.J. Surhoff Red Splotch Above Helmet
173 B.J. Surhoff Red Splotch Removed
186 Rob Murphy Line through 'b' on front
186 Rob Murphy No Line
194 Darren Daulton Clean Negative
194 Darren Daulton Residual Paint on Negative Above Head
195 Alfredo Griffin Scratches Airbrushed Out
195 Alfredo Griffin Small Black Scratches Right of Bat
198 Paul O'Neill Paw Scratch Airbrushed Out
198 Paul O'Neill Red Paw Scratch Right of Helmet
198 Paul O'Neill Black Paw Scratch Right of Helmet
200 Checklist 126-233
200 Checklist 130-231
206 George Bell Closed loop 'G'
206 George Bell Open loop 'G'
214 Mike Moore No Dot
214 Mike Moore Yellow dot under Donruss on front
217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 20
217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 30
233 Eric Davis E' & 'r' joined
233 Eric Davis Normal
270 Gregg Jefferies Open loop 'G' & 'J'
287 Joe Orsulak Black mark left of belt (corrected?)
300 Checklist 224-321
300 Checklist 232-333
307 Duane Ward Full border
307 Duane Ward Line break on front bottom border
321 Jeff Hamilton Break in top line above team name
321 Jeff Hamilton Full Line
335 Jose Uribe Black dot left of bat
335 Jose Uribe Dots airbrushed out
335 Jose Uribe White dot left of bat
343 Kevin Brown "Signeed" in first line of bio (UER?)
347 Bip Roberts Line breaks B
365 Ken Griffey Jr Blank accent mark through card nuber and line
365 Ken Griffey Jr Break in front bottom border by left elbow
365 Ken Griffey Jr Full line
365 Ken Griffey Jr Green Eye (Factory Set only?)
368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 25
368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 28
378 Jamie Moyer No Dot
378 Jamie Moyer Yellow dot above 'I' on front
400 Checklist 322-419
400 Checklist 334-435
405 Sergio Valdez Line through S on front
405 Sergio Valdez Normal
406 Mark Williamson Black scratch below Orioles on front (corrected?)
408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch more white
408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch mostly red
414 Trevor Wilson Red dot above glove
414 Trevor Wilson Red dot airbrushed out
424 Ken Caminiti Yellow dot right of name on front
425 David Wells Gap between leaf and border
425 David Wells Maple Leaf touches border
436 Gene Larkin Black Quotation Marks Right of Helmet
436 Gene Larkin Marks Airbrushed Out
471 Mackey Sasser Blue apostrophe left of eyes
471 Mackey Sasser Blue banana & Blue apostrophe
471 Mackey Sasser Blue banana above hip
498 Mike Macfarlane No Dot
498 Mike Macfarlane Pink dot on hat
500 Checklist 420-517
500 Checklist 436-537
523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1965
523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985
523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985 with Dot Below 'A' on Front
542 Mark Portugal Bottom front line break left of 'M'
542 Mark Portugal Full line
562 Rick Luecken No Red Dot on Cap
562 Rick Luecken Red dot on cap
573 Lance Johnson Full Name
573 Lance Johnson Part of 'L' missing in name on front
583 Kevin Hickey Black line through 'K'
583 Kevin Hickey Normal Name
585 Jeff Pico Break in bottom line on front
585 Jeff Pico Full Line
595 Luis Quinones Black dot left of 'L' on front
595 Luis Quinones No Dot
600 Checklist 518-617
600 Checklist 538-639
602 Terry Kennedy No Paint
602 Terry Kennedy Painted Teammates in Dugout
619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line and on top border on front
619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line on front
619 Shawn Hillegas Full line
624 Mark Lemke Black Feather Above Shoulder
624 Mark Lemke Feather Airbrushed Out
637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Half Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Half Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
639 Jack Morris Black line through 'J' on front
639 Jack Morris Corrected
650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' Airbrushed Out w/ All-Star Performance on back
650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' Airbrushed Out w/ Recent ML Performance on back
650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' by Left Knee w/ All-Star Performance on back
650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' by Left Knee w/ Recent ML Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Blue Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Blue Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star No Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star No Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Blue on Top - AS Game Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Blue on Top - Recent ML Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Red on Top - AS Game Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Red on Top - Recent ML Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red Scratch with AS Game Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star White Scratch with All-Star Performance on back
654 Howard Johnson All-Star White Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back
660 Harold Baines Line behind star - All-Star Performance on back
660 Harold Baines Line behind star - Major League Performance on back
660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - All-Star Performance on back
660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - Major League Performance on back
662 Clint Zavaras Black line airbrushed out
662 Clint Zavaras Black line on nostril
663 Rick Reuschel All-Star Black streak in front left border with All-Star Game Performance on back
663 Rick Reuschel All-Star Black streak in front left border with Recent ML Game Performance on back
663 Rick Reuschel All-Star No Black Streak in Border, All-Star Game Performance on back
663 Rick Reuschel All-Star No Black Streak in Border, Recent ML Performance on back
683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Brown Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with All-Star Performance on back
683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Brown Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with Recent ML Perform on back
683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Teal Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with All-Star Performance on back
683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Teal Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with Recent ML Performance on back
696 Scott Lusader Break in top front border
699 George Canale Line through right loop on front 'G'
700 Checklist 618-716
700 Checklist 640-BC26 no 716
700 Checklist 640-BC26 with 716
703 Dave Stewart All-Star No Scratch - All-Star Performance on Back
703 Dave Stewart All-Star No Scratch - Recent ML Performance on Back
703 Dave Stewart All-Star Chameleon Scratch Right of Elbow - All-Star Performance on Back
703 Dave Stewart All-Star Chameleon Scratch Right of Elbow - Recent ML Performance on Back
708 Benito Santiago All-Star Faded Green Vertical Stripe in Next to Right Foot on Front, AS Perform on back
708 Benito Santiago All-Star Faded Green Vertical Stripe Next to Right Foot, Recent ML Performance on back
708 Benito Santiago All-Star Green Vertical Stripe in Dirt Next to Right Foot on Front, AS Perform on back
708 Benito Santiago All-Star Green Vertical Stripe Next to Right Foot, Recent ML Performance on back
708 Benito Santiago All-Star No Green Stripe, AS Performance on back
708 Benito Santiago All-Star No Green Stripe, Recent ML Performance on back
710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Black Vertical Scratch in Dirt with AS Game Performance on back
710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Black Vertical Scratch in Dirt with Recent ML Performance on back
710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Green Vertical Scratch in Dirt with AS Game Performance on back
710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Green Vertical Scratch in Dirt with Recent ML Performance on back
715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star No Blue Triangles, All-Star Performance on back
715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star No Blue Triangles, Recent ML Performance on back
715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star One Blue Triangle on Stomach, All-Star Performance on back
715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star One Blue Triangle on Stomach, Recent ML Performance on back
715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star Two Blue Triangles on Stomach, All-Star Performance on back
715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star Two Blue Triangles on Stomach, Recent ML Performance on back
716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped larger
716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped smaller
716 A. Bartlett Giamati No black lines on back
BC-12 John Smoltz - MVP Photo of Tom Glavine
BC-2 Howard Johnson - MVP Clean Jersey
BC-2 Howard Johnson - MVP Fuzzy Blue Triangle on Jersey Neck

All-Star Performance
Recent Major League Performance
MVP subset with Dot after INC
MVP subset with NO Dot after INC
659 - 659 back
659 - 665 back
659 - 659 back with 665 number
665 Copper Banner on Front - 665 back
665 Tan Banner on Front - 665 back
665 Tan Banner on Front - 659 back

***** All errors/variations occurring on All-Star cards are assumed to be available in
***** both All-Star Performance and Recent ML Performance backs. This may not be
***** the case though.

All-Star Cards ----- Harold Baines, Julio Franco, Wade Boggs, Bo Jackson, and Kirby Puckett are all
missing the "TM" trademark symbol next to the American League emblem on
the front of their cards. No examples with the "TM" present are known.

Diamond Kings ----- Some DKs have been reportedly found with No Period after INC on back.
These should be considered difficult, if not rare, and not all DKs are known to
exist with No Period INC. A stark contrast to the availability of Period/No Period
INC base cards.

butchie_t 01-29-2024 10:47 AM

I agree with your Bo Jackson comment. I have looked for years, never found any hint of it either.

Thank you for your list. This may just be the impetus for me to bust a box to see if I can fill some holes.

Butch

butchie_t 01-29-2024 10:58 AM

I would be remiss if I did not share my list so here it is. This comes from my Excel Spreadsheet. So it runs together a bit. Consider each card listed with two descriptions of the variation to that card number.

With the exception of 695 Davis "E R Break - Recent Major League Performance" which I have never seen, I have everything on this list.

1990 Donruss Baseball Variations UPDATED: 6/20

3 Sierra No Small Line Top Back Border Small Line Top Back Border
10 Downing Normal Photo Reverse Photo
18 Johnson Line on back Thicker Line on back Thinner
33 Gonzalez Normal Photo Reverse Photo
100 Checklist #1 - #129 #1 - #125
113 Gruber Feb 22 Birthdate - Back Feb 26 Birthdate - Back
154 Orosco Black Line under 'r' in Orosco Black Line behind 'r' in Orosco
168 Murphy "D" is White - Front Half line through "D" - Front
170 McCaskill Apr 19 Birthdate - Back Apr 9 Birthdate - Back
200 Checklist #130 - #231 #126 - #223
206 Bell "G" Open Bottom Loop - Front "G" Filled Bottom Loop - Front
217 Garrelts Oct 20 Birthdate Oct 30 Birthdate - Back
233 Davis "E" and "r" Joined - Front "E" and "r" Broken - Front
270 Jefferies Open "G" & "J" Loop - Front "G" and "J" Loop Closed - Front
300 Checklist #232 - #333 #224 - #321
321 Hamilton Solid Top Line - Front Top Line Break 1/16 From Right - Front
347 Roberts Line Breaks "B"ip - Front "B"ip is solid white - Front
365 Griffey Jr. No Red Dot on Cap - Front Red Dot on Cap (All over him) - Front
368 Gibson May 25 Birthdate - Back May 28 Birthdate - Back
400 Checklist #334 - #435 #322 - #419
405 Valdez "S" is all White - Front Broken Line Through "S" - Front
408 Innis Mostly Red Scratch Upper Right - Front Scratch more White Upper Right - Front
425 Wells Maple Leaf Touches Bottom Border - Front Gap between Maple Leaf and Bottom Border - Front
500 Checklist #436 - #537 #420 - #517
523 Nezelek Born in 1985 Born in 1965
583 Hickey "K" Is White - Front "K" Has Line Through It - Front
585 Pico Solid Lower Line - Front Line Gap 3/4 from Right Side - Front
600 Checklist #538 - #639 #518 - #617
619 Hillegas Solid Lower Line - Front Line Gap 3/4 from Right Side - Front
637 Steinback All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
637 Steinback Black 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Clean Name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Clean Name Front - RMLP Back
Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black lines thinner in name Front - ASGP Back
Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black lines thicker in name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black Lines thinner in name Front - RMLP Back
639 Morris All White "J" - Front Line Through "J" - Front
650 Jackson All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
654 Johnson All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
659 Ryan #659 Card Back #665 Card Back
660 Baines No Star Line Front - All Star Back No Star Line Front - Recent Back
660 Baines Line Through Star - All Star Back Line Through Star - Recent Back
663 Reuschel All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
665 Ryan K of K #665 Card Back No Card Number on Back #659 Card Back
673 Sierra All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
674 Guerrero All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
676 Ripken All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
683 Puckett All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
692 Sandberg All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
695 Davis No E R Break - All Star Game Performance E R Break - All Star Game Performance
695 Davis No E R Break - Recent Major League Performance E R Break - Recent Major League Performance
697 McGwire All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
699 Canale "G" All White - Front Line Through Right "G" Loop - Front
700 Checklist #640 - #BC26 Includes #716 No #716 #618 - #716
701 Franco All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance AS Partial 19 in "1989" - Back AS Whole 19 in "1989" - Back
703 Stewart All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
705 Gwynn All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
707 Clark All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
708 Santiago All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
710 Smith All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
712 Boggs All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
715 Mitchell All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
716 Giamatti Black Lines on Back No Black Lines on Back
BC-12 Smoltz John Smoltz Photo - Front Tom Glavine Photo - Front


1990 Donruss GRAND SLAMMERS
1 Williams With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
2 Leonard With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
3 James With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
4 McGwire With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
5 Evans With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
6 Clark With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
7 Sciocia With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
8 Benzinger With Black Lines on Back - Yellow Star in All Star - Front Without Black Lines on Back With Red Star in All-Star - Front
9 McGriff With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
10 Bass With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
11 Clark With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
12 Jackson With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back


Yastzremski Puzzle Pieces
1,2,3 With Period Without Period
4,5,6 With Period Without Period
7,8,9 With Period Without Period
10,11,12 With Period Without Period
13,14,15 With Period Without Period
16,17,18 With Period Without Period
19,20,21 With Period Without Period
22,23,24 With Period Without Period
25,26,27 With Period Without Period
28,29,30 With Period Without Period
31,32,33 With Period Without Period
34,35,36 With Period Without Period
37,38,39 With Period Without Period
40,41,42 With Period Without Period
43,44,45 With Period Without Period | With Period in front of 43 only
46,47,48 With Period Without Period
49,50,51 With Period Without Period
52,53,54 With Period Without Period
55,56,57 With Period Without Period
58,59,60 With Period Without Period

t206wagner 01-29-2024 01:48 PM

1982 Topps Jim Palmer with ink issues
 
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I found this card looking through my cards this afternoon. The line on the left changes from orange to red and the ink seems smeared in multiple places. Also the words Topps and Jim Palmer should be in orange and not red. Though it was interesting.

zogar 01-29-2024 01:54 PM

1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659
 
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The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star.

Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss.

As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare.

Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right).

JustinD 01-30-2024 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger (Post 2406075)

And please, be a responsible collector. If you see someone advertising a Donruss card as an error because it doesn't have a period after "INC" do the right thing, kick them in the jublees.

Arthur

If I could somehow remove these nonsense cards from ever popping into a search or my entire life until death, it would be a godsend.

This is sage advice that would make Gandhi jealous.

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-30-2024 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zogar (Post 2408909)
The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star.

Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss.

As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare.

Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right).

Interesting. I never noticed those. Are they unnumbered? From what I understand, all of the Ryans are unnumbered in factory sets. Actually, that could just be the King of Kings card.

Arthur

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-30-2024 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2408851)
I would be remiss if I did not share my list so here it is. This comes from my Excel Spreadsheet. So it runs together a bit. Consider each card listed with two descriptions of the variation to that card number.

With the exception of 695 Davis "E R Break - Recent Major League Performance" which I have never seen, I have everything on this list.

1990 Donruss Baseball Variations UPDATED: 6/20

3 Sierra No Small Line Top Back Border Small Line Top Back Border
10 Downing Normal Photo Reverse Photo
18 Johnson Line on back Thicker Line on back Thinner
33 Gonzalez Normal Photo Reverse Photo
100 Checklist #1 - #129 #1 - #125
113 Gruber Feb 22 Birthdate - Back Feb 26 Birthdate - Back
154 Orosco Black Line under 'r' in Orosco Black Line behind 'r' in Orosco
168 Murphy "D" is White - Front Half line through "D" - Front
170 McCaskill Apr 19 Birthdate - Back Apr 9 Birthdate - Back
200 Checklist #130 - #231 #126 - #223
206 Bell "G" Open Bottom Loop - Front "G" Filled Bottom Loop - Front
217 Garrelts Oct 20 Birthdate Oct 30 Birthdate - Back
233 Davis "E" and "r" Joined - Front "E" and "r" Broken - Front
270 Jefferies Open "G" & "J" Loop - Front "G" and "J" Loop Closed - Front
300 Checklist #232 - #333 #224 - #321
321 Hamilton Solid Top Line - Front Top Line Break 1/16 From Right - Front
347 Roberts Line Breaks "B"ip - Front "B"ip is solid white - Front
365 Griffey Jr. No Red Dot on Cap - Front Red Dot on Cap (All over him) - Front
368 Gibson May 25 Birthdate - Back May 28 Birthdate - Back
400 Checklist #334 - #435 #322 - #419
405 Valdez "S" is all White - Front Broken Line Through "S" - Front
408 Innis Mostly Red Scratch Upper Right - Front Scratch more White Upper Right - Front
425 Wells Maple Leaf Touches Bottom Border - Front Gap between Maple Leaf and Bottom Border - Front
500 Checklist #436 - #537 #420 - #517
523 Nezelek Born in 1985 Born in 1965
583 Hickey "K" Is White - Front "K" Has Line Through It - Front
585 Pico Solid Lower Line - Front Line Gap 3/4 from Right Side - Front
600 Checklist #538 - #639 #518 - #617
619 Hillegas Solid Lower Line - Front Line Gap 3/4 from Right Side - Front
637 Steinback All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
637 Steinback Black 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Clean Name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Clean Name Front - RMLP Back
Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black lines thinner in name Front - ASGP Back
Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black lines thicker in name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black Lines thinner in name Front - RMLP Back
639 Morris All White "J" - Front Line Through "J" - Front
650 Jackson All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
654 Johnson All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
659 Ryan #659 Card Back #665 Card Back
660 Baines No Star Line Front - All Star Back No Star Line Front - Recent Back
660 Baines Line Through Star - All Star Back Line Through Star - Recent Back
663 Reuschel All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
665 Ryan K of K #665 Card Back No Card Number on Back #659 Card Back
673 Sierra All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
674 Guerrero All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
676 Ripken All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
683 Puckett All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
692 Sandberg All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
695 Davis No E R Break - All Star Game Performance E R Break - All Star Game Performance
695 Davis No E R Break - Recent Major League Performance E R Break - Recent Major League Performance
697 McGwire All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
699 Canale "G" All White - Front Line Through Right "G" Loop - Front
700 Checklist #640 - #BC26 Includes #716 No #716 #618 - #716
701 Franco All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance AS Partial 19 in "1989" - Back AS Whole 19 in "1989" - Back
703 Stewart All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
705 Gwynn All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
707 Clark All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
708 Santiago All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
710 Smith All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
712 Boggs All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
715 Mitchell All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance
716 Giamatti Black Lines on Back No Black Lines on Back
BC-12 Smoltz John Smoltz Photo - Front Tom Glavine Photo - Front


1990 Donruss GRAND SLAMMERS
1 Williams With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
2 Leonard With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
3 James With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
4 McGwire With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
5 Evans With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
6 Clark With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
7 Sciocia With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
8 Benzinger With Black Lines on Back - Yellow Star in All Star - Front Without Black Lines on Back With Red Star in All-Star - Front
9 McGriff With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
10 Bass With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
11 Clark With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back
12 Jackson With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back


Yastzremski Puzzle Pieces
1,2,3 With Period Without Period
4,5,6 With Period Without Period
7,8,9 With Period Without Period
10,11,12 With Period Without Period
13,14,15 With Period Without Period
16,17,18 With Period Without Period
19,20,21 With Period Without Period
22,23,24 With Period Without Period
25,26,27 With Period Without Period
28,29,30 With Period Without Period
31,32,33 With Period Without Period
34,35,36 With Period Without Period
37,38,39 With Period Without Period
40,41,42 With Period Without Period
43,44,45 With Period Without Period | With Period in front of 43 only
46,47,48 With Period Without Period
49,50,51 With Period Without Period
52,53,54 With Period Without Period
55,56,57 With Period Without Period
58,59,60 With Period Without Period

Thanks for sharing your list. Would it be too much to ask for a scan of this:

18 Johnson Line on back Thicker Line on back Thinner

I just want to know what to look for and it's easiest if I see it.

The messed up part is that I have been so anal about this pursuit I even kept the puzzle pieces. I have a 5,000 ct monster box of nothing but puzzle pieces. I think I have a problem.

Arthur

butchie_t 01-30-2024 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger (Post 2409099)
Thanks for sharing your list. Would it be too much to ask for a scan of this:

18 Johnson Line on back Thicker Line on back Thinner

I just want to know what to look for and it's easiest if I see it.

The messed up part is that I have been so anal about this pursuit I even kept the puzzle pieces. I have a 5,000 ct monster box of nothing but puzzle pieces. I think I have a problem.

Arthur

No problem at all. Both top and bottom are wide and narrower respectively. And no worries about a 5k box of puzzles. The first thing is identifying you have an addiction. So, welcome! : - )

Cheers,


Butch

Attached.

butchie_t 01-30-2024 12:55 PM

Thanks for the Ryan additions. More to find!

B.T.

butchie_t 01-30-2024 01:23 PM

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So, this sorta fits this category. This is a variation!

Topps Live Frank Howard White personal stats on back. 1511 total print run.
Topps Live Frank Howard Black personal stats on back. 10 total print run.

I'm happy to have found 1 of the 10.

Cheers.

zogar 01-30-2024 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger (Post 2409097)
Interesting. I never noticed those. Are they unnumbered? From what I understand, all of the Ryans are unnumbered in factory sets. Actually, that could just be the King of Kings card.

Arthur

I think it is just the King of Kings card that is unnumbered, the variations I posted have numbers on the back. I don't remember exactly why I came to the belief that the star placement variation came from factory sets so that could be wrong.

Thank you and butchie_t for your lists of 1990 Donruss variations. It was the first set that got me into errors as a kid. My father took me to a card show where dealers were asking around $20 for the Harold Baines line through star variation and since rookie and star player cards were a couple of dollars at most my kid brain was like "Woah! I want the errors!".

I remember going to a local card store a month or so later and they had 1990 Donruss boxes that they called "4th printing" which they said only contained the Juan Gonzalez error. I have heard some people claim there were somewhere around 12 printings or more in total but no idea if that is correct.

I've always hoped there would end up being a couple that were truly rare/hard to find but I guess that is probably a long shot at this point.

butchie_t 01-30-2024 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t206wagner (Post 2408906)
I found this card looking through my cards this afternoon. The line on the left changes from orange to red and the ink seems smeared in multiple places. Also the words Topps and Jim Palmer should be in orange and not red. Though it was interesting.

Ink bleeds......I like'em!

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-31-2024 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zogar (Post 2409162)
I think it is just the King of Kings card that is unnumbered, the variations I posted have numbers on the back. I don't remember exactly why I came to the belief that the star placement variation came from factory sets so that could be wrong.

Thank you and butchie_t for your lists of 1990 Donruss variations. It was the first set that got me into errors as a kid. My father took me to a card show where dealers were asking around $20 for the Harold Baines line through star variation and since rookie and star player cards were a couple of dollars at most my kid brain was like "Woah! I want the errors!".

I remember going to a local card store a month or so later and they had 1990 Donruss boxes that they called "4th printing" which they said only contained the Juan Gonzalez error. I have heard some people claim there were somewhere around 12 printings or more in total but no idea if that is correct.

I've always hoped there would end up being a couple that were truly rare/hard to find but I guess that is probably a long shot at this point.

I keep track of the case codes whenever I rip a case and then enter everything into a spreadsheet to see the chronology of the E&Vs. I've got nine different dates covered so far (all "error cases") and three more to rip and sort. Each of the nine dates I've sorted have had a unique checklist of what is and what isn't available, even if it's just a few cards that change status from the previous date.

I don't know what the first distribution date is and I'm not sure how anyone else would know either but someone would have to do what I'm doing except on a much larger scale in order to number "printings." The Gonzalez should not be considered difficult if you have an error box. But like all the '90 Donruss cards from the early printings, finding a gem mint copy is basically the plo of the next Indiana Jones movie.

Out of all the cases I've ripped, I've only pulled mint copies of the Juan RevNeg.

Arthur

butchie_t 01-31-2024 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger (Post 2409403)
I keep track of the case codes whenever I rip a case and then enter everything into a spreadsheet to see the chronology of the E&Vs. I've got nine different dates covered so far (all "error cases") and three more to rip and sort. Each of the nine dates I've sorted have had a unique checklist of what is and what isn't available, even if it's just a few cards that change status from the previous date.

I don't know what the first distribution date is and I'm not sure how anyone else would know either but someone would have to do what I'm doing except on a much larger scale in order to number "printings." The Gonzalez should not be considered difficult if you have an error box. But like all the '90 Donruss cards from the early printings, finding a gem mint copy is basically the plo of the next Indiana Jones movie.

Out of all the cases I've ripped, I've only pulled mint copies of the Juan RevNeg.

Arthur

There is a case on eBay now, M9335C. I am foggy on my number but I believe it was lower than this one.

B. T.

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 01-31-2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2409407)
There is a case on eBay now, M9335C. I am foggy on my number but I believe it was lower than this one.

B. T.

I've opened a case earlier than the one on eBay and there's no real advantage to paying the price for that case.

Arthur

butchie_t 01-31-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger (Post 2409415)
I've opened a case earlier than the one on eBay and there's no real advantage to paying the price for that case.

Arthur

No chance of that happening on my end. I just happened to see it during my recent searches.

Cheers,

Butch

DaClyde 02-02-2024 05:24 AM

No one ever mentions the 'hair' variation of the 1987 Donruss Dave Winfield Diamond King:

https://clydes-stalecards.blogspot.c...induction.html

jacksoncoupage 02-03-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zogar (Post 2408909)
The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.

There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star.

Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss.

As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare.

Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right).

The card on the right is definitely the factory set version. You can see the position placement is different and it has those tell-tale semi "rounded" corners that Donruss factory set cards have.


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