1988 Angels TL Joyner Red Slash on arm
 

I haven't seen many of these, but does anyone know just how rare this variation is?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Topps-R...item1e9a2d6a6e

For 1962 Checklist #367, the variation has always seemingly been defined as 'light wood' versus 'dark wood.' Well, in looking at all of the checklists as part of my green tints research, I stumbled upon something. Namely, a much simpler way to differentiate the two variations…

Attachment 181503

a. The card on the left is the 'dark wood' variation. If you look in its upper left corner, you'll see that part of the white is completely missing. You can see it right away.

b. The card on the right is the 'light wood' variation. If you look at its bottom right corner, you'll see that a notch of the white is missing. This, too, is clearly visible.

So there you have it. A much easier way to spot the two different versions of this checklist.

Very keen observation on the 62 checklist Darren, great find!

Are these rare or pretty Common on the backs of 67 topps?

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1971 Carlos "Green Splotch" May
 

I have two of the "green splotch on chin" print variations. I don't see them very often. In fact I didn't realize there was a non-splotch version until a few years ago; green-chin Carlos was in my binder with the '71 set until I re-discovered it & started looking for more. I always imagined the Sox made him paint the clubhouse before posing for his card.

Tom

Stray yellow dots under the team name.

Light green square on his glove.

Large area of the right border is blue rather than green.

1956 Topps Eddie Robinson missing the 2b and 3b stats and 1956 Topps Jim Konstanty with an incomplete green stat box line around his E.R.A.

Sweet finds, Cliff! You're on a roll!

Here's a couple I've found as of late...

72 Topps Santo IA with a "rainbow swirl"
This card can also be found with border breaks around in action without the swirl
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/y...s0ntjkmy0.jpeg

76 Topps Traded Jack Brohamer with "peeling" black background
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/y...s3uv9ooth.jpeg

Nice finds Cliff and Joe.

This '62 Ruth is interesting for a couple of reasons. It is not only a green tint variation card, but it is also so miscut that it shows part of card #176 Eddie Yost (which is a pose variation) on it. A pretty cool find for any Dodgers error/variation collectors out there.

Attachment 184776

Speaking of MC, here is a 69 T #232 with some sort of factory note along the left edge. Not sure what "slit b" stands for. Somewhere between a third to a half of the copies of this card that are OC r/l have this note (or parts of this note) on the left side edge.

Notes on cards
 

It reminds me of the notation on some of the 1960 Topps Banks cards

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img134.jpg

Had not noticed the excess red below the border on this 72 #574 card before...while appearing in varying degrees, very few if any copies on ebay have this excess red, while about half on COMC do.

Fritz IA
 

Checked the one in my set and it has a red line that is above rather than below the black border line

Nice Al, I did not notice a variation of a excess red above the black line when searching for copies of the red line below the border(could have missed some copies though), so looks like you may have found an even tougher print variation of this card to chase ....please post a pic!

Notice that the right border on Joe Coleman's 78 Topps card is red as opposed to pink like the other three sides. I have yet to find a variation with all four sides pink. If one exists my opinion is that it is quite scarce.

'62 Checklist 6
 

I was aware of the font size variation, but this one (on the right) has me scuppered. I have periodically checked Ebay and COMC, unable to locate another. Perhaps someone more familiar with the print process could educate me as to what happened here? Thanks...

yellow print plate out of register (misaligned) during print process. Some collectors call it "ghosting". Not unusual to find these but fun to hunt for to pass the time until those white whales come along.:)

That "ghosting" version is certainly unique, nice find! Almost reminds me of the 7th series yellow boxed checklist.

Red Line on 72 574
 

Seems harder to find one without the red than with it, and the red line seems to wander some


http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1428869096

Jim Tyrone was beside it on the 1978 E* sheet, it has the same flaw on the left edge.

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!

Nice Al, that is the first copy of this card I have seen with the red above....

That's another registration difference. With the red printed where it should be the extra line is below the frame If the red is printed shifted up the line will be above the frame.

Steve B

http://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973/...&size=original
1973 Topps #1 - All Time Home Run Leaders (Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Not mine, but I thought this card depicting Babe's booger would be of interest.. ;-)

Variants
 

Unlike most of my other crappy printing flaw "error" cards, I believe this one is a bona fide variation. Apparently, the early printing of the 1973 Topps Al Kaline card had a spring training photo of him with a band-aid on his forehead, someone at Topps spotted it and had it airbrushed out.

That certainly appears to be a true variation Cliff, nice job. I have not looked yet, but what pct of the copies of this card have the band-aid?

They are pretty rare, I think there is only one beat up one on eBay at the moment, none on COMC.

Kaline
 

Good one Cliff

Not to rain on the parade or anything, but I've had the Kaline card (actually 2 of them) in my Vintage Errors and Variation FT thread for a long time now. Yesterday I resuscitated the thread in the BST section, for anyone looking to trade for that card.

I first found out about the card years ago on eBay, a seller had one up and when I went to look at it I figured it was just another lame "variation", but when I looked at his scans I was impressed. I have looked for them ever since but I have only been able to find five or so.

Kaline Variation
 

I can attest to Cliff's prior recognition of the Kaline variant. After he posted it I told him I was looking for one and he pointed out he had sent me one quite awhile back ( no charge by the way). I looked in my set and there it was. It is depressing getting old. :( It is not the first variant Cliff has sent me without charge. There have been several.

And, I appreciate it when folks post variants here, even if they might have shown up elsewhere, because it is valuable having one thread where you can search for examples.

Darren does have a lot of great variations listed in his BST thread. Definitely worth a look

How Green Was My Jensen
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...JENSEN_NEW.JPG


....I don't know how something like this could have happened but a green uniform might have been a big hit in a town like Boston.

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Don't let him fool you, he compensated me for that particular card ;).

printing variation
 

Hey guys, i have some nice variation....lol

Original Printing plates....
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Mantle And 2 other players...
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http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf4uwvcff.jpg
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Ruth/Fox/Kiner/Greenberg/Wilson.
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http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psfg7u80fs.jpg
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http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psl9cawj44.jpg

1972
 

I have a large number of 1972 with poor registration, including the Allen, but Adam's is a "super" example

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...pse7e4a206.jpg

I've always loved the shot on this '73 Speier card and found this wrong back for a pittance, so I grabbed it up…
Attachment 188150

If you want to trade that 1973 wrong back, just let me know.

Thanks....

Tom

Within the next few days when I add additional cards to my errors and variations for trade thread in the BST, the Speier will be there.

I love the Mets, I love 1972, I love high numbers, I love the 'TRADED' subset and I love errors…

Attachment 188685

Talk about having it all!!!

1970 topps print errors and miscuts
 

Yall have some cool stuff on here! Here are my 1970 print vars:

Yankee TC and Mullena are way off register. The Repoz is off register, but not to the same degree. The Mike Lum has some serious magenta bleed. The Hiatt Patek May and Ray all have sizable portions of the end of the sheet. The Christian is my favorite. How many times can you get 3 cards in one?

1963 Bombers
 

I have considered whether this card involves a true variation, one in which Topps made an effort to minimize the bat between Mantle's legs in later runs, and did it in different degrees. But the fact there are so few of the minimized cards seems to argue against it. Why would such a change be made only near the end of the print run ?

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431013294

The only one that looks different to me is the card on the left. Do the other two differ with regards to that bat?

The image shows that the overall color of the card on the left is all out of whack. The yellow is significantly duller and it's missing some red (magenta) ink, among possibly other things, as compared to the middle and right cards. That probably explains what's going on here.

Here is the Mantle with some print offsets.

1963 Angels Team card
 

This card has two slightly different but related recurring print defects. The most common one involves a red and blue line to upper right of lower left front logo. A card without those two marks is harder to find. The third version involves the red line version smudged with some of the red in the white pants of the guy to the left. That seems to be the toughest, but have seen a few of them. Top one is clean. 2nd one has the red and blue lines. The 3d has the red in the pants

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1431110239

Is this considered a ''Scrap'' ?
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...KABACK_NEW.JPG


...anyone ever seen 1957 Topps with a back like this --I assume it's a factory cut because it's miscut just like ninety per cent of all '57 Topps were....

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Maybe a card cut from a salesman sample?

Correct - that is 1/3rd of a saleman sample.

Salesman Sample ?
 

Oh , okay.....I've seen three-card strips reputed to be ''Samples'' but I 've never seen the backs;.anyone have one or know about the 3-card strip backs ?

...thanks

Usually some on eBay. Link to another single. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Topps-A...item35d405a6a7

Salesman Samples
 

i think you can find them from 53 to 67. I have several. Trying to get one for each of my sets. Anthony, Griffins on the board, has a great run for both Topps and Bowman. If you keep a search for Topps or Bowman Salesman sample, you will find them on eBay, usually partially cut like this one. They are most valuable if the 3 card strip is uncut. The next factor involves whether a star card is pictured on the strip. Less valuable is a star on the back. The backs do not usually match the front players. Two card backs are advertising with one player back from the set. Here is back of my 59 Salesman Sample

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...psf92d7437.jpg

Three wildly miscut 1970 HOF'ers…
Attachment 190263

Pretty cool!!

I'm really starting to dig wildly miscut cards. Here are a few more from 1970, including HOF'er Maz…
Attachment 190581

1957
 

Someone mentioned this one on CU. Recurring print defect, not scarce

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1432241957

73 Miscuts

Pseudo shameless plug…for anyone interested, a lot of the cards I posted in this thread are now available for trade in my new Errors & Variations thread in the B/S/T. Check it out.

I'm convinced the white area in the ball wasn't filled in in any way, either someone very carefully erased the "P" or it was printed that way.

While the scans do not show this print variation as crisply as it appears in hand, these two copies of this 71 214 Al Ferrara card both have what I will call a streak of horizontal white lightening. Just above Al's hands, in between the right edge and light tower, is a squiggly white print line that looks as if it could be a horizontal bolt of white lightening out beyond the Shea stadium fence striking the light tower. .

1971
 

Saved-- saw some on eBay and COMC

Al, I just looked quick and found these two on COMC, and with even quicker look on ebay, I did not see any.

1971
 

I picked up one on COMC. On eBay I had to open up the listings and use the enlarge feature to see it

What I have not been able to find is one of the 72 Aaron IAs that you posted awhile back

Even though it appears as if someone spilled something on top of this card, it still has its original gloss and is just a weird print variation. Pretty cool.

Attachment 197987

1967
 

The Incredible Lopez, in the midst of changing

Another wildly miscut 1970 HOF'er…
Attachment 198898

Cool card, any idea who the Dodgers player is?

Alan Foster?

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!

It appears to be card #369, Alan Foster. But there's more!! In quickly researching it, I noticed a black mark on Alan's cap, so I investigated further and sure enough, it's another frickin' variation!! His card comes both with and without that big, black mark on his hat.

Here are a couple examples. Check it out…
Attachment 198899

With this print variation, there are two small extra clouds appearing a ways off in the sky....fortunately for the Pirates, these extra clouds are far away and do not look like rain clouds.

1964 Topps #397 Cottier
 

I don't believe this one was reported before. Neither version seems scarce.

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/...psd6plil6j.jpg

Nice find, first time I have seen it....this print variation does appear on Richard D's list.

With weird print variations on or near players necks, I noticed this one....a small scribbled looking area on Fred's neck just above the blue border. For those who like to color coordinate, there is a second version of this mark that appears more red(3rd image). With this marking appearing intentional, I am not sure what Topps was trying to accomplish as there appears to be nothing to cover up on the non-marked version.

73 topps rooker
 

The variation missing part of his name and left border are roughly 1:20

Rooker
 

I kept looking at the name at the top and wondering what was missing :o :)

Also, the 1973 did not help things :-)

Here is a partial "blackless" card ala 82s.....just like a regular card, sans the black border around the "1969 Rookie Stars"....any ideas on this card?

1968
 

Yep. Very tough variation. Listed in SCD, or at least it was. I have one and have seen several posts over time by folks looking for it

edited---it is also on the PSA master checklist

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img244.jpg

Thank you Al for the info. Richard's variation list mentions a version of this card with a "line around title"....likely the same variation then.