could be. You used to see them around but I haven't seen one in ages.

Red Sox
 

One from the man cave :D

cool! oversized? what year?

the graphic gives it a college look.

Thanks, circa 1914-1916, Babe Ruth years :) and yes, oversized! Don't see this come up for sale very often, so when I saw it, grabbed it.

Greg

Great acquisition Greg. That's a real beauty!

My only two, BF3's

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/m...BF3pennant.jpg

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/m...161324_447.jpg

Almost finished with framing
 

Emory university baseball pennant circa 1906-1908. 52 inches. I built a walnut box and inserted fine green-gray burlap wrapped liner. Front is gold frame from hobby lobby attached using brusso brass hinges. Attached pennant to acid free foam backer using invisible thread. Plan to use uv acrylic. Will ultimately hang above bookcase in man cave.

Now i just need a vintage uniform or photo to complement.

FANTASTIC job, Dennis! :D

Why the interest in Emory?

Just saw these buttons on ebay. Produced in Winona, MN (see bottom of card). Isn't that where Wincraft was? Anyone know if Wincraft and this operation were one in the same? :confused:

You are correct Sir!

Here's another Collegiate of Ames pennant by Arthur Evans...on ebay and not listed under sports stuff...cheap! :D

I don't believe this school exists anymore.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331194534354...84.m1423.l2649

Spotted this on tonight's episode of Mad Men. Don Draper found it folded under the a/c unit, looked at it briefly, then tossed it aside. Later in the episode, it's tacked up on his office wall.

I thought maybe that was a studio prop because I've never seen a pennant of that style.....then I found it in Mike Egner's book :D. Kind of a goofy pennant IMHO.

I did the same thing as you and looked it up in Mike's guide before posting :) Could very well be both. Typically, they are very good with researching props that are appropriate for the time depicted on that show, but I figure they wouldn't be above reproducing one if an original was not readily available.

Hmmmmm....mysteriously ended, 4 days early. :confused:

The Mets is not a studio prop pennant. It's not that uncommon, and I recall seeing that one long before the show Mad Men was even a concept.

If the plot is taking place in the early '60s, I think they actually picked a decent Mets Pennant to portray.

I actually recently sold a Mets pennant like that on EBay last fall. It didn't have any staining, but it was the exact same one. I sometimes wonder where some of it ends up, but that would have been a little surprising.

Here is a simliar Syracuse one like the Omaha pennant. FYI that Omaha pennant was relisted.


http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws....d0f87f1b26.jpg

Those are sweet.

I'll be watching! :p

Did someone here win? :confused:

the design is very common, but the green color is not. Couldn't go wrong in the rare color and in great condition for 37 bucks. :D

The seller shipped it flat, but my mail carrier decided to fold it in thirds rather than drop it on our porch. :mad:

Got to fit it thru the slot. The mailman always delivers.

except the time MJ stripped the ball from him. I'm over it......really :mad:

A couple of Cubs and a Cardinals
 

How this Cubs fan ended up with an original pennant that flew out by Stan the Man in front of the 2nd Busch Stadium is a long story. Suffice it to say that ego and a charity auction can be a dangerous combination. Not sure how to rotate the picture for here, but the Cards pennant is hanging vertically. I saw a bunch of Cubs pennants, but not these 2.

Neat stuff, Mike...

Here are a few different ones, just to breathe some new life into this thread.

Interestingly, the Indians has a real feather inserted into the pennant...

Love the Indians with feather! :D

What time frame are you thinking for the Yankees?

Yankees Champs Pennant is from 1937 :D

The Indians one is very cool with the feather. I like that it is an "official" pennant.

I'm bummed not one of my 200+ pennants is marked "official" :mad:

I like that Giants one. It appears to be 3/4, but hard to tell. Are you thinking 30's on that one? I have seen similar, but I don't think I have seen that exact version. The real feather Indians is tough to find in nice shape.

Correct on both counts..... NY Giants is 3/4 size and from the '30s. The Yankees and Brooklyn also used that "Ruthian Batter" image at te time, but this is the only one I've seen with color graphics.

Indians is a very soft/supple felt, so I can see how it would be easily prone to damage. But that feather is really anchored in there.... I don't think I could remove it without a pliars!

I think I have that Yankees version so that would make sense. That version in general is pretty tough as it was kind of that transition period for pennants. I have never seen that green Brooklyn Dodgers one you posted either. That's a nice one too.

BTW, it really seems like pennants are not getting the respect or collectibility that they were only a couple of years ago. I see tough versions of a lot of pennants barely selling for much of a premium over the run of the mill styles. You still see some of those spikes here and there, but it's a little disheartening. I think pennants are great and I am always shocked when vintage collectors do not include them in their collections. I guess we'll just have to keep this thread going to help it along. Jason

I require a Houston Colt .45s full size pennant. So mad...lost out on one on Ebay for $75...never seen it so cheap!!

I think I have a nice Colt .45s that I could let go. Send me a PM with your email address, if you would like me to send you pics/pricing. Thanks :)

Here are a few I found at Brimfield, a flea market, and a card show over the past few months. The Tigers one looks like the championship year one but the tip is cut out (presumably to sell it in subsequent years?).

I am amazed by the early pennants shown in this thread!

Alan

I want you guys to do the deal out in the open. C'mon Mark, let's see the Houston pennant you are offering up!:D

If there's a deal, it's news to me!

It is a nice one though.... just have to dig it out!

Hi Mark-

PM sent...thanks for the reply!

totally agree. The pennant below....while butt ugly.....is tough to find but has gone around ebay at least twice without getting $100. I have over 220 Giants pennants and it wasn't until an advanced collector in the Bay Area liquidated his collection (with me getting second dibs), that I got mine. Speaking of which, at least with Giants, once my fellow team collectors all have a particular item, the price plummets. The key is being the last guy to "need" something. :D

So true... well said!

And when you are selling, best to be first out of the gate. Could cite a million examples, but don't want to bore everyone to death.

The same price drop has happened with vintage gloves and bats as well. There was a time when any split finger glove would bring at least 25.00-30.00. Now you can sometimes buy them for as little as 10.00. Store bought bats as well. Rising shipping costs have not helped either.

Bore me!

This is especially true of the crappy stadium giveaways from AT&T Park. Get it listed day of! In a year, you can't give that stuff away! :p

Too true. Reminds me of my early days on Ebay, when one could see and contact easily all those that were underbiddders on one's own auction items to offer deals outside of the Ebay parameters. The city of Toronto (my home town...pls no Rob Ford jokes...we have suffered enough) was vying for an Olympic bid and had produced official pins in advance of the vote. I was the first in line and purchased 50 (the limit) at city hall and out the hem up right away. I had them all sold through one listing and at a great profit before the vote came back, not in our favour.

Andrew...

I am so sorry for the delay. Between work nightmares and 3 family members being hospitalized, it's been a unique couple of months (that I do not recommend :( :mad: )

Anyway, you have first crack at this one. It's in very nice shape, with only 2 pin holes and no other flaws. Pretty rare variation, and nice bright colors. I took the pics at twilight with no flash, so the color is far better in person.

I will PM you with the price... sorry again for the long delay!
Mark

Oddball Mascots
 

Two things I love about vintage pennants are...

* Oddball Mascots
* Felt colors that have no relation to the team colors

They're so different from the generic and sterilized images you see today. Just a ton more artistry and charm back then.

Below are some examples of seldom-seen team logos and mascots...

1. New York Giants - Does this Goof represent Baseball or Football?
2. Brooklyn Dodgers - I love how they "crowned" the Clown when they finally won it.
3. 1960 Pirates - This unsavory fellow made a very brief appearance on Pirates Pennants
4. Boston Braves - A one-time appearance for this guy (very rare one!)
5. Cincinnati Reds - They used a "Native American" for maybe a year or two... not sure why... Red Skin?
6. NY Yankees - Looks like they used The Mick's image for this one. But I doubt the Commerce Comet was ever compensated.

Just wanted to give this thread a kick in the pants... let's see some more oddball stuff!

Same Artist
 

Here's a pair that doesn't surface often... Took me forever to find these, let alone in good condition. There is also a matching Yankees version, which I have seen only once in 20+ years

Same artist and company. These are "a cut above" IMO, as the felt is thicker and the tassels are longer than normal. Must have been made by an obscure company, which might explain the scarcity.

Any thoughts on these, Rob? :confused:

I know you must own both, and eager to hear your perspective ;)

Mark
Beautiful pennants!! Thank you for posting....

PM sent

* definitely, like green and yellow SF Giants pennants.

1. I always thought baseball, due to the colors. It's in my collection, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it :D
4. I haven't seen that one! Not especially fierce looking.
5. Red skin would be my guess.....but why? :confused:

Glad you gave this thread a kick!

I DO own both and have pics of these in other colors. Your observation about the felt and tassels is very true.....it gets me to wondering if these could be related to the Giants Seals Stadium pennants :confused: Same felt and tassels. I will post some pictures, shortly.

I've also seen the batter in front of bridge in red and white and the one below comes in a brown (not faded black) and orange.

like green and yellow (A's colors) or blue and yellow? these pennants are butt ugly...yes, I guess it's a giant but the only giant that should be used is the Willard Mullin "Giant on bridge" (or Giant in Polo Grounds).

Going to bring this thread back to life. finally have a baseball pennant that is worthy of this thread! Primarily just collect the college pennants. Never seen this don newcombe version before

http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws....74df9ebafd.jpg

Magnificent Don Newcombe Pennant!!

Never seen one like it... a possible lone survivor?

Never seen one either! Nice!

(even if they did get the apostrophe wrong) ;)

Wow!

Super pennant!

That is an awesome Newcombe!

Rob:
I actually love the Blue and Gold one. Looks like the UCLA Giants! :rolleyes:

Did anybody here win this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1900-19...vip=true&rt=nc

Fascinating subject. I had no idea there was so much variety in pennants. Maybe it's because the only ones I ever run across are the common, newer ones, that show up at flea markets and such. I don't really collect them but I will pick them up if they are interesting, and cheap.

Here are 2 of my favorites:
As a RAMS fan, this one was a must have, even though it looks pretty faded. Team picture is the 1960 RAMS squad.
http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b482bd6.jpg

This Dodgers pennant I can't see to find any information on, such as date. I've been told it dates to the 1950's. But they had just arrived in Los Angeles in 1958, so that is just a 2 year window. Not sure. I just loved the graphic of the sliding player, who actually looks quite a bit older than 1950's.
http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...ps91f46347.jpg

Love all those Giants pennants -- had no idea there were so many variations.

I just bought a couple of antique frames at an estate sale -- they were covered in dirt. I cleaned them off and the wood was beautiful. I used them to frame the two pennants you see here.

Greg

Mark - Do you think it's legit? the buyer obviously did. It looks awfully nice for being 100+ years old. Plus, the "moth hole" doesn't really look like a moth hole to me...

Hey Richard-

Your D**gers (sorry, can't type that word :p) pennant reminds me a lot of a few Giants pennants I have; two of which are dated "1958." I've always been a tad suspicious of these pennants. They haven't been on ebay in awhile, but when they first popped up they all seemed to be pristine. Yours looks pristine, as well. The word at the time was "warehouse find." Possible, I guess, but also possible that they are re-pops...

Agree... It must have been a warehouse find...

Ebay sellers like to call it "New Old Stock". They always go for decent money, so the collecting consensus seems to be that they're legit. But to Rob's point... they're almost always NRMT or better.

For the record, there is a Cardinals Pennant from the same maker... same diagonal lines and all... I just can't seem to locate an image (and am short on time). It's definitely out there, though...

YES... no doubt... the oversized Cubs is legit. I previously owned a virtually identical White Sox example. Same structure, size, material, and even had the same leather Batter applique. Both are unquestionably authentic...

The White Sox came from a well-respected Board Member here, who had bought it contained within a patchwork quilt. The Quilt had been stitched together with this, and many other Pennants from the teens. The White Sox was the only Baseball example included within the Quilt, with the other Pennants being College or non-sports.

Below is an image of the matching White Sox. I assume the tassels were cut off, to enable the pennants to fit better within the framework of the Quilt....

Maybe the buyer of the Cubs pennant is making a quilt! :D

Haha.... That's one you wouldn't want to drool on ;)

Here's a similar Reds pennant...

I was the under bidder and was buying it for resale. I think the buyer get a hell of a deal. That pennant was beautiful. I was surprised it didn't go for more. I love that sewn player on there.

There have been some great pennants on eBay over the last couple months. It's funny how I just mentioned that we were going through a "dry" stretch and then "Bam" out of the dry stretch. I will not highlight some of the other pennants I am speaking of, but I think some of the collectors know what I am referring to. Jason

Thanks for the info. I didn't even think of a warehouse find. My first thought when I got it was the "Los Angeles" looked more modern than what the player graphic looked. So I kind of figured it might be from the 70's, from one of the "old timers" games they use to have. It looks pristine, but in actuality it looks to me like someone had it rolled up at one time.

Hey Jason-

I am a TEAM collector, whereas other guys (you, I think) concentrate of specific THINGS (pennants, pinbacks, figurals, etc). I won't ask for your trade secrets :p but it leads blows my mind that the THING guys can track down the "good stuff" on eBay. For example, I search Giants pin, Giants button, Giants pinback, etc. and get thousands of results. I can't even imagine how many results "baseball pin (or pennant)," etc. would get without the TEAM qualifier......:eek:

Below is an interesting image for Richard and Rob (and anyone else who might care...)

It's the same exact design Dodgers Pennant... However this one is dated "1958", has significant wear, and appears to be on softer/earlier vintage felt. So this might actually raise more questions than it answers about the newer looking/more plentiful NRMT examples out there... Warehouse "finds", or newer reproductions?

I think I'm leaning towards the latter :rolleyes:

pennants
 

looking for american nut and chocolate full size pennants 17x7
please post photos
thanks

Always keeping me busy, Mark.....and you may be on to something.

I checked the three I posted on the previous page....the middle one, blue and white, is by far the softest felt. The other blue one is kinda soft. The black one is that stiff, crappy "felt." Blue and white I think is definitely vintage; black undated is not; the other, I'm not sure. :confused:

Giants pennant
 

The two dated Giants pennants (1958) were part of a larger warehouse find in the Los Angeles area. It comes from the same find of the Rose Bowl pennants that you see from the 50's and 60's that are seen in quantity. I had the fortune to be one of the first to speak with the "finder" and bought all that if could of the tougher / rarer items. Both versions were in this group and both dated 1958. I probably had at least 20 at one time. Kind of like the 1963 Dodgers / Yankees World Series that I remember picking some out of a group of about 100 or more.

I do not believe there were any of the dated Dodgers version in that find and the Dodgers have always been a much tougher to find pennant both with and without the color. I believe that colorful Dodgers pennant is from that late 50 to early 60's era like the Giants. It is a great pennant. By the end of the 60's they started using brighter colors.

I am pretty sure Mark and some others see most of the same stuff I see on eBay, it just depends on who's interested an that item. I do collect Yankees items, but it is tough to compete with the big spenders unless I REALLY want an item. Pennants have always been a passion for me and I think they are very under appreciated in most collections.

Great info Jason, and very interesting about the Warehouse find. That clears up a lot of the questions. Thanks for the informative post :)

1947? Cubs pennant
 

Any idea what year this is? I think it is late 1940's

That is a nice pennant and a tougher style. Generally you would think that a simple style like this would be 1940's, but I would lean late 50's to early 1960's because of the style and some similar I have seen in the past. I think they were a premium of some kind, although I can't recall. Just my opinion though and maybe others can provide more detail. Jason

Thanks Jason for your input.

It's a surprisingly rare one, and I agree with mid to late '50s.

It is not common, so there is some mystery around it. There is a 3/4 size (typically burgundy felt) and this full size version (I've only seen the blue).

Both are equally tough, but not impossible. I remember it taking me about 2 years to track down one of these, but a few have surfaced since then.

That doesn't add much insight here, but hope this helps a bit!