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sicollector1954 01-22-2018 12:51 PM

Rocky
 
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Picked this up at the beginning of the month....at an estate sale from a former MLB player....probably headed to auction in the future....only have seen 2 others signed on a ball.

Exhibitman 02-06-2018 12:18 PM

Don't know what it is exactly but it was expensive:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HuMAA...iU/s-l1600.jpg

I suspect it is from a set that I've not been able to catalog but that has a Fitzsimmons that I've known of for years.

Exhibitman 02-12-2018 01:00 PM

More info on McGovern:

The card arrived today. It is machine-cut, measuring exactly 1.5" across and 2.25" tall. Blank back and thick cardboard. Similar to a Mayo in thickness. I thought it was a half-tone print but under magnification it is photo-engraved, which indicates it was created some time around the turn of the 20th century. Makes sense since McGovern's career ended in 1908.

G1911 02-22-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1747433)
More info on McGovern:

The card arrived today. It is machine-cut, measuring exactly 1.5" across and 2.25" tall. Blank back and thick cardboard. Similar to a Mayo in thickness. I thought it was a half-tone print but under magnification it is photo-engraved, which indicates it was created some time around the turn of the 20th century. Makes sense since McGovern's career ended in 1908.

I saw this card on eBay when it came up and was interested in what it was. Do you have a photo of the Fitzsimmons you mentioned earlier by chance? I’ve never seen anything from whatever this set was before

GasHouseGang 02-22-2018 01:13 PM

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Picked this up after it was graded. It ended up a PSA 5.5. Looked 6ish to me, but I'm happy with it.

Exhibitman 02-22-2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 1750375)
I saw this card on eBay when it came up and was interested in what it was. Do you have a photo of the Fitzsimmons you mentioned earlier by chance? I’ve never seen anything from whatever this set was before

http://nebula.wsimg.com/b1d1e7cdbb8f...&alloworigin=1https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20McGovern.jpg

G1911 02-22-2018 03:20 PM

Thank you! Very cool cards

chalupacollects 02-25-2018 01:03 PM

1922 exhibit - Johnny Red Dolan
 
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Not my wheelhouse but anything this old is worth the pickup... Anyone familiar with these and how rare (or not) they may be?

Thanks!

Exhibitman 02-26-2018 10:13 AM

I cover all the Exhibit cards in my book. The 1922 set is tougher than 1921, easier than 1923.

Exhibitman 02-27-2018 03:13 PM

I got one PC recently:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...eeney%20PC.jpg

This kind of single event PC is like pizza to me: can't resist it. Checks all the boxes:

--Vintage
--Rare
--HOFer depicted

chalupacollects 02-27-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1751858)
I cover all the Exhibit cards in my book. The 1922 set is tougher than 1921, easier than 1923.

Cool thanks! Will have to order that!

edjs 03-09-2018 02:16 PM

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This just came in the mail. No idea who they are, but what a cool image. From 1904.

Arazi4442 03-09-2018 09:55 PM

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Maybe I overpaid but I don't care. Collect what you like, right?

Very happy with this pickup.

Bored5000 03-10-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arazi4442 (Post 1755985)
Maybe I overpaid but I don't care.

I wish you would have posted that previously. :D;) Seriously, though, cool SRR pickup from an iconic boxing set.

Peter_Spaeth 03-10-2018 04:07 PM

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Recent additions.

Exhibitman 03-13-2018 10:32 AM

Meet Eddie Booker:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Bm8AA...bO/s-l1600.jpg

A recent HOF inductee, he has no cards, promos or other memorabilia to speak of, so I had to go after this photo for my HOFer set.

Exhibitman 03-13-2018 10:35 AM

Oh, and a 1948 Leaf SRR white back in nm-mt is never a wrong buy. Now you need to get the red glove variation to match it!

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...nson%20red.jpg

Arazi4442 03-16-2018 01:18 PM

Thanks Adam & Eddie! I'd been looking for the right example for awhile, but still keeping an eye out for the red version.

Exhibitman 03-22-2018 11:27 AM

Here's a fun one, an oversized PC from Louis-Walcott. Haven't seen one of these ever before:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...t%20PC%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...t%20PC%202.jpg

wondo 03-23-2018 12:32 PM

Tickled to pick this up from Mile High
 
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Looks like a higher grade set - all in at $205. I've always liked this deck; interest has certainly waned.

D. Bergin 03-23-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wondo (Post 1760293)
Looks like a higher grade set - all in at $205. I've always liked this deck; interest has certainly waned.


Love that set. Great price. That's my absolute favorite Jack Johnson card from a purely aesthetic standpoint.

Exhibitman 03-23-2018 06:04 PM

Does it have the pamphlet?

wondo 03-23-2018 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1760375)
Does it have the pamphlet?

Doesn’t say. I did not take that into account.

Exhibitman 03-26-2018 11:22 AM

They almost ever do. I wanted to get a good look at one.

Bill77 04-08-2018 03:16 PM

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Finally got a decent Jack Johnson and just started getting into wrestling cards.

samosa4u 05-23-2018 04:15 PM

Mike Tyson Autographed Rookie
 
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I just got this back from PSA. I purchased it raw a few years ago and totally forgot about it. :) I thought it was a NM-MT card and was surprised it came back a 6 EX-MT. I then spotted a TINY ding on the bottom right corner that is mostly visible on the back. I probably missed it before sending it in. Oh well, I'm still happy with it.

Exhibitman 05-24-2018 07:22 AM

A signed Tyson RC? Nicely done.

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2018 07:49 AM

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Can someone explain why PSA sometimes will assign the card but not the auto a grade, and other times grade both? Is it a matter of what you ask for?

samosa4u 05-24-2018 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1779955)
Is it a matter of what you ask for?

That's correct. So on the PSA/DNA form, it looks like this:

1. TYPE OF SUBMISSION: 򪪪 Grading 򪪪 Review 򪪪 Crossover (one type per submission)

2. TYPE OF GRADING: 򪪪 Card 򪪪 Autograph or 򪪪 No Grade (authentic only; card and autograph)

If you just want the card graded, but not the autograph, then you would just check the first box.

Cozumeleno 05-25-2018 06:40 PM

Hbk
 
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I wasn't really doing raw wrestling cards but I've seen so few of these Shawn Michaels 1989 Market Square rookies that I figured I'd better jump on it. I figure I could either submit it myself or hang onto it until a graded one surfaces. With only six graded by PSA, though, I may be waiting a while if I don't slab this one :)

CobbSpikedMe 05-27-2018 06:24 PM

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Just picked up this sweet red backed E79 for a steal. Almost got the Attell but missed out on that one.

Exhibitman 05-28-2018 08:50 AM

Nice! I guess the seller missed it.

CobbSpikedMe 05-28-2018 08:43 PM

Seller totally missed them. No mention of the red back on any of the three. The Attell was even mislabeled as an E77 in the listing.

butcher354435 05-29-2018 12:04 AM

There were more than 3, there were 6 of them including a Jeffries and a Jack Johnson vs Cole... SGC should have also labeled them with Red Back as well. Great pick up! The Red Back E79's are really tough!!!

CobbSpikedMe 05-29-2018 05:28 PM

Really, there were 6 of them. How did I miss the other three! Oh well. I'm happy with the one I got.

Does SGC ever label them as red backed or no? I agree they should if they are so tough.

Jerry G 07-13-2018 09:46 PM

Fantasy Card
 
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I have never been interested in reprints, but some of the fantasy cards are pretty compelling. Like this 1948 Leaf Ali.

Edit: The scanner caused the imperfection on the right edge. Card is cut perfectly square.

GasHouseGang 07-13-2018 11:49 PM

I like that Ali Jerry. Is it by a major company, or is it a one of a kind fantasy piece?

Jerry G 07-14-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1794730)
I like that Ali Jerry. Is it by a major company, or is it a one of a kind fantasy piece?

Thanks, David. This card is from eBay user 2013cardsforcheap. He has tons of cool fantasy cards. You being GasHouseGang, like me, will love all the great Stan Musial cards that never were.

sthoemke 07-14-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry G (Post 1794768)
Thanks, David. This card is from eBay user 2013cardsforcheap. He has tons of cool fantasy cards. You being GasHouseGang, like me, will love all the great Stan Musial cards that never were.

He did an amazing job on his Macho Man Randy Savage baseball card.

I think it is the greatest fantasy card of all time.

sthoemke 07-15-2018 05:02 PM

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Picked up a lot of over 50 Panini boxers:

shernan30 09-19-2018 07:22 PM

I just started really getting into collecting boxing at National this year. Here are a few of my recent pick ups.

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Exhibitman 09-19-2018 08:07 PM

Nice!

Copa7 09-19-2018 08:14 PM

boxing
 
Looks like a great start. Congrats!

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 09-20-2018 08:32 AM

Wesley Andrews, very nice!

Arthur

Bill77 09-20-2018 08:35 AM

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I just grabbed this one to offset the shipping cost of another card I purchased from the same seller, and I thought the price was too good to pass up.

G1911 09-25-2018 06:04 PM

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24/25, just need the Jas. J. Corbett now

Exhibitman 09-26-2018 10:22 AM

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...z_%20Young.jpg

GasHouseGang 09-26-2018 03:06 PM

Wow Adam, where do you find these cards? What is the set and the year? I'm not familiar with it.

vintage mesiah 09-26-2018 09:35 PM

Nice rare cards all the way around this thread

vintage mesiah 09-27-2018 09:32 AM

http://a63.tinypic.com/2z3qan7.jpg

vintage mesiah 09-27-2018 09:33 AM

http://a65.tinypic.com/15fszfb.jpg

GasHouseGang 09-27-2018 10:22 AM

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I guess I'm just moving the pics from BST over into the pickup thread, but here are my latest Sullivan acquisitions. Thanks John.:)

Exhibitman 09-27-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1815669)
Wow Adam, where do you find these cards? What is the set and the year? I'm not familiar with it.

Not a card, a fighter issued publicity photo from France, from the late 1920s or early 1930s. Bad condition but you have to take what you get sometimes, especially when it comes to Young Perez.

Exhibitman 10-09-2018 06:15 PM

I've been searching for this item for many years:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Dempsey.jpg

H815 Adam Hats Jack Dempsey. I figured one had to exist because he was part of their celebrity matchbook promotion and the other sports subjects in that issue have cards.

GasHouseGang 10-10-2018 09:42 AM

Doesn't he look like he should be holding a machine gun? He really looks like a mobster in that photo. :D Oh, love the card by the way!

GregZakwin 10-12-2018 10:59 PM

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RsanlVe8S...%2BPSA%2B8.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 10-17-2018 07:20 PM

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It has not been easy to find one of these.

wrestlingcardking 10-17-2018 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1820571)
It has not been easy to find one of these.

Great to see you pick it up!

Peter_Spaeth 10-25-2018 05:16 PM

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Common enough card, but attractive I think.

vintage mesiah 10-26-2018 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1822181)
Common enough card, but attractive I think.

Nice centering on that one,

vintage mesiah 10-26-2018 04:11 AM

http://a64.tinypic.com/55s1p2.jpg

Exhibitman 10-26-2018 09:55 AM

Probably my favorite UK Louis card. Nice pick!

vintage mesiah 10-26-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1822275)
Probably my favorite UK Louis card. Nice pick!


Thank u sir !

Exhibitman 11-01-2018 01:17 PM

Over the last 27 years I have opened hundreds of packs and browsed through countless thousands of other 1991 Kayo cards. I have never, ever seen one of the alleged autographed insert cards until now:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ure%20Card.jpg

D. Bergin 11-01-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1823896)
Over the last 27 years I have opened hundreds of packs and browsed through countless thousands of other 1991 Kayo cards. I have never, ever seen one of the alleged autographed insert cards until now:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ure%20Card.jpg


Wow, that's a new one on me. I've probably opened at least a couple cases worth of these, have sold several cases worth of single boxes and have a couple cases put away and have always been suspicious that these never even existed.

I've told people straight out, you're not going to get a signed card in this box, regardless what is says in the advertising on the box.

Exhibitman 11-01-2018 06:22 PM

And I would keep on telling them that, Dave.

D. Bergin 11-01-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1823984)
And I would keep on telling them that, Dave.


Would be curious to know if any others have ever popped up.

Must be Powerball type odds pulling one of these cards.

Exhibitman 11-02-2018 09:44 AM

The only reference I can find to the signature cards is on Jeff Allender's checklist site, where he checklists a red bordered Arguello. Since it references the border color difference I think the report of the Arguello is credible. Allender claims (without foundation) that the insertion ratio is 1:2160 packs, but is "reportedly scarcer." Yeah, no $hit, Sherlock. A total of two cards identified in the hobby over 27 years is definitely scarcer than one every 60 boxes (5 cases). I'm thinking that finding one is more akin to this scenario:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...a%20ticket.jpg

As I recall from reading Shark Tank, when Upper Deck invented the signed insert around this time, the executive who came up with it was inspired by Willie Wonka and wanted it to be like pulling a golden ticket. If Kayo followed suit, the cards may be unique. We didn't really start thinking about larger hit counts until years later.

Peter_Spaeth 11-02-2018 06:46 PM

So Adam under what circumstances did you come across this one?

sthoemke 11-02-2018 07:35 PM

I can personally vouch for opening 10+ boxes, and not getting any auto cards.

Seriously, 80-90 percent of the print run probably remains unopened.

Does anyone have any contacts to reach Williams and ask him the number of cards he signed?

sthoemke 11-02-2018 07:41 PM

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Picked up 1946-47 Propagandas Montiel Reyes del Deporte - Primo Carnera.

sthoemke 11-02-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1824107)
The only reference I can find to the signature cards is on Jeff Allender's checklist site, where he checklists a red bordered Arguello. Since it references the border color difference I think the report of the Arguello is credible. Allender claims (without foundation) that the insertion ratio is 1:2160 packs, but is "reportedly scarcer." Yeah, no $hit, Sherlock. A total of two cards identified in the hobby over 27 years is definitely scarcer than one every 60 boxes (5 cases). I'm thinking that finding one is more akin to this scenario:

...

It is Carlos Palomino, not Arguello, who is referenced as a signature card.

http://www.nslists.com/kayobox.htm

sthoemke 11-03-2018 03:51 AM

This article states "So far, more than 250 million First Round cards have been printed and distributed..."

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Kayo+...ena-a011423282

D. Bergin 11-03-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sthoemke (Post 1824321)
This article states "So far, more than 250 million First Round cards have been printed and distributed..."

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Kayo+...ena-a011423282


Yeah, it's a typical early 90's overproduction run. Totally over-estimated the market for boxing cards.

Similar story with AW (All World) the same year. Differences in distribution. It seems AW produced way less unopened product and way more factory sets, and Kayo stuck to mainly the unopened product, while creating less factory sets.

5 years later Ringside was a lot more savvy and sophisticated with it's release, and was much more transparent with it's chase card, autograph insert strategy. Still overproduced but not quite to the extent of the 91' releases.

I'm not sure of the full autograph insert list for this set. I don't think it's exactly a remarkable line-up of boxers, but at least they are attainable.

Still not successful enough to carry over into another series of cards until the modern day lineup of hobby boxes started coming out with much more limited distribution.

Exhibitman 11-03-2018 07:31 PM

Where did I get Arguello? Brain fart...

OK, each case has 14 x 36 x 12 cards = 6,048. That's 41,336 cases if the 250 million # is used. If the signed cards are 1 per 5 cases, that would be 8,267 signed cards. Surely more than two would have shown up in 27 years.

I don't buy the production numbers. That's a million of each card. At its worst in the junk wax era, Topps was reported to have made 5 million of each card. A fifth of Topps's max run for a minor sport and a first effort?

I also have to wonder how many were destroyed rather than saved for decades.

Peter_Spaeth 11-15-2018 05:07 PM

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Did not expect to find one.

shernan30 11-16-2018 05:35 AM

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Did not expect to find one.



Very cool!! Nice find.


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Exhibitman 11-16-2018 10:41 AM

FP had some nice card issues over the years.

RCMcKenzie 11-22-2018 10:11 PM

T218 Goodman
 
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Picked up a high grade T218 Goodman. His record on the back is not very good, but high grade T218's are neat. I'm back into boxing cards because the price is right.

Exhibitman 11-23-2018 01:57 PM

T218 is my favorite T set in any sport. The art just cannot be beaten.


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