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calvindog 08-01-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1021089)
Then you'd be willing to give me odds?

Yes.

T206Collector 08-01-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021222)
yes.

10:1? 50:1?

calvindog 08-02-2012 06:43 AM

Paul, don't be a clown. For once.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021271)
Again, I'll take that action all day and night.

You said that you'd be willing to give me odds. So give me odds. Or are you too afraid to admit that there is a reasonable chance that the evil Mastro/Legendary folks don't spend any time in prison? Depending on the odds you said you were willing to give me, I may very well be game.


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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021271)
Paul, don't be a clown. For once.

I guess you were joking. I wasn't.

How much is that York Caramel Cobb you're selling worth?

calvindog 08-02-2012 08:26 AM

Paul, in 2005 I stated on this board that Mastro was committing rampant fraud in its business. I'm also a criminal lawyer by trade -- which means I may have some insight here as opposed to a clown talking out of his ass. If you'd like to discuss your proposition further please do so by email or PM.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021286)
Paul, in 2005 I stated on this board that Mastro was committing rampant fraud in its business.

I know.

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021286)
I'm also a criminal lawyer by trade.

I know.

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021286)
If you'd like to discuss your proposition further please do so by email or PM.

PM sent.

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2012 08:36 AM

No entertainment value for the rest of us in a PM exchange.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 12:44 PM

No entertainment value on my end either. The best odds I was given was 5:1. I was looking for 25:1.

I think the defendants would be thrilled to know that even CalvinDog thinks they have nearly a 20% chance of not doing any time. The way he was talking, I thought he was closer to 5%. I guess we were closer on the likely outcome here than I thought.

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2012 12:53 PM

In other words, you wanted odds where there was essentially no upside to Jeff, unless you were willing to risk a substantial sum yourself which I doubt. You can't really draw a conclusion from that, can you? I would hardly infer from someone's unwillingnesss to give me 25 to 1 odds that they weren't confident in their position.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 01:09 PM

Correct. I was trying to bargain for that Cobb, but there was no way that the dollars I would be willing to risk for that Cobb were going to make it worthwhile for Jeff. Jeff wanted more upside, but I was not going to bet that there was a more than 20% chance they would all walk free. Frankly, I think that 20% sounds about right.

I do disagree, however, about your point about the confidence of the position. If I'm confident in my position, I'll give you 25:1 odds or better. 5:1 is a real horse race.

Matthew H 08-02-2012 01:13 PM

I sure hope they do time. If they don't, I can imagine fraud becoming even more rampant in the hobby. They need to set a solid example with these guys.

calvindog 08-02-2012 03:21 PM

Paul, you offered to bet me $32. Had I known I was wagering with a 9 year old girl I wouldn't have wasted the time.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 03:49 PM

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Paul, you offered to bet me $32. Had I known I was wagering with a 9 year old girl I wouldn't have wasted the time.

I'm a clown AND a 9-year old girl? Your "legal genius" is really emerging on this thread. Do these comments constitute a "shredding" or a "pounding"?

Honestly, this is the scroll on your website? Love yourself much? Talk about 9-year old girls. Sheeeesh!

edited to add: what happened between the "brilliant" slide and the "relentless pounding" slide? Did you run out of photographs of yourself?

T206Collector 08-02-2012 03:58 PM

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I'm thinking of changing my T206 baseball card website into something a little more appropriate. Maybe you can give me some advice on how to really draw in potential visitors. How about something like this:

"More Fun At Children's Birthday Parties Than Bozo!"
-The Clown Herald, 2005

"Only Has $32 To Wager; Makes $10/Hour Babysitting!"
-Queens Middle School Review, 2008

calvindog 08-02-2012 04:01 PM

You wanted to bet me $32 -- with 25:1 odds.

And you're a groupie.

PS -- when you win a case for the first time in your life and the press calls you anything other than a clown maybe you'll have a website too.

$32.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021440)
You wanted to bet me $32 -- with 25:1 odds.

And you're a groupie.

Your website is amazing. How could I not be a groupie? Do you happen to have one of those photos of yourself kissing a mirror? I think that would really help spruce it up a little bit.

This is the best I could do, with the photos I had.

calvindog 08-02-2012 04:09 PM

Yeah, better my law firm website discuss all of your legal victories. All zero of them.

$32.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 04:34 PM

First of all, "Law Offices Of..." is not a "firm". Okay, maybe technically it is, but it is not like your firm's PR department decided to do this, right? Or do I have that wrong? Because, where I come from, where I was trained, when we win cases, we do not boast about it, or our clients get very cranky. Have you heard the phrase, "When you hit a home run, act like you've done it before"?

Second, by all means, your website should discuss your legal victories. The front scroll of your website simply pronounces you as "Legal Genius". If Wile E. Coyote had a website, it would look very similar.... "Super Genius."

But I will say that I respect your guts in going into business for yourself as a defense lawyer in New York. It certainly must take a certain type of personality to get you there and keep you afloat. If one of the by-products of that is shameless self-promotion -- or even a reasonable belief that shameless self-promotion is necessary to staying above water -- then I really cannot fault you here.

I'd keep typing, but if I don't start billing some hours today, I won't even be able to wager you $32 for your York Cobb. And, given the legal economy, it'll take me four hours to earn even that!

calvindog 08-02-2012 04:38 PM

Except "you" don't win cases. Maybe if you had a pair of balls and actually stood in front of a federal jury sometime and won a case you could pass some judgment.

And maybe if you spent more time actually working at your job instead of sniffing my underwear you'd be able to afford to bet more than $32.

glchen 08-02-2012 04:44 PM

Might just be me, but I'm guessing Paul and Jeff don't like each other ...

T206Collector 08-02-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021455)
Except "you" don't win cases. Maybe if you had a pair of balls and actually stood in front of a federal jury sometime and won a case you could pass some judgment.

And maybe if you spent more time actually working at your job instead of sniffing my underwear you'd be able to afford to bet more than $32.

With any luck, I will never stand in front of a federal jury. I can think of fewer places where I'd like to spend any less time -- either as a career choice or as a defendant.

You sure like to focus on "winning cases." Would you say that you're a "winner"? Do you stare blankly at the ceiling each night reminding yourself of that? Or do you just keep clicking refresh on your home page?

I am hoping for my big break soon. To finally get in that "win" column. Do you have any advice for a poor lawyer who is down on his luck? I'm starting a case about a parking ticket tomorrow. Any helpful tips before my big day?

calvindog 08-02-2012 04:52 PM

You're a clown. Don't be proud of being a zero.

PS: $32.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021464)
Don't be proud of being a zero.

You mean, like your website?

PS - 5:1

calvindog 08-02-2012 05:17 PM

My website is a compilation of public things said about me and done by me. I'm proud of being good at what I do. I googled "Paul Mifsud" and literally nothing came up. Nothing.

Don't be angry that I'm good at what I do. If I wasn't good at what I do I wouldn't have been able to figure out 7 years ago that Mastro was committing rampant fraud in its auctions. Of course, just like now clowns like you criticized me for daring to be outspoken. In the end you're just a frustrated loser, afraid to take a real shot at life. Instead you're relegated to bragging about a $32 bet you offered me.

And I offered you a $10,000 bet with 5:1 odds. You countered with....$32. You have the balls of a nine year old girl.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by glchen (Post 1021457)
Might just be me, but I'm guessing Paul and Jeff don't like each other ...

I actually don't know Jeff. Never met him or spoke to him in my life. But the guy on Net54 who goes by CalvinDog has the most arrogant, self-congratulatory Net54 presence this side of The Bruces. But at least he has a cool Cobb and Chase card collection. So, I can live with it.

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2012 05:25 PM

Jeff, you apparently aren't very good at Google searches. :D

calvindog 08-02-2012 05:27 PM

Your dad doesn't count.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021474)
I'm Googling myself right now and it feels so damn good!

Jeff, please. Woman (singular) and children read this forum. They're afraid you're going to get some on them.

T206Collector 08-02-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1021479)
Your dad doesn't count.

Sure he does! He's awesome!


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