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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KwdeQY-FGrk"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KwdeQY-FGrk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I don't know anything about punk compared to these young guys...I'm just an old hippie from the 60's <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Thanks Dan, you're the best...that's the music I grew up on. I was 13 in 1965!

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Denny Crain

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Leon- Are we about ready for a lock on this thread?

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Does Bobby's actions really surprise anyone that witness him go after me because I got tired of his constant pimping of his site on the board? He wanted a poll run to see if I should be banned or not. He showed me his true colors during that incident. This doesn't surprise me in the least.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>arcade</b><p>Um Hi. The thread hijack is cute and funny and all, but I'd prefer if this one could stay on topic. As much as I agree that food and punk history make for much better discussions, I ask that you not trivialize this. I understand some people don't like this thread to begin with, and they shouldn't take part if that's the case. Yes, I'm humorless at the moment, but I do appreciate the consideration, if possible. Thanks.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Arcade,<br /><br />Its the only thing this guy knows--let him go.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>And to think I was considered the major problem for thread hijacking. Seems we know who the real culprits are since they seem to the same ones that pull stunt with every thread that isn't to their liking.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>Larry</b><p>Dan Bretta's posting of the Zombies(She's Not There) was the ONLY productive thing to come out of this farce, at least that was educational and other than that, this IS a waste of time and energy.<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>If you didn't see it, check one of my posts above. Had a link to show the general area of where an IP address is originating from. Plugged the one Bobby posted in there and it's nowhere near you.<br><br>Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>THERRRE'S Jay! Hi Jay. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> So I was right - it was you that called him out for using the main thread as an advertisement. I forgot about the "Poll to Ban Jay" suggestion. Yeesh. Maybe a "Poll to Ban Thinly Disguised Commercial Promotion" would be better.<br /><br />I also wouldn't mind seeing this one stay on topic a bit too. There have been some serious accusations, and it seems Barak has answered from his end.<br /><br />However, to be fair (even though I'm biased as noted above), Bobby hasn't posted to this thread in several hours. It's Sunday night and some people make family or rest use of their Sunday evenings. He does deserve the opportunity to address the questions about screen shots, different location of IP address, different IP address for Barak's posts here, etc. We should give him that chance.<br /><br />Just my opinion. <br /><br />Joann

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Hi Barak:<br /><br />So you want to get back on topic?<br /><br />Maybe we can clear up something. VCP has been charged with violating your privacy by publishing your name. But as I understand it (deleted at request of the poster) isn't really your full name and if one were to try to locate you under that name they could not. <br /><br />Would you like to comment?<br /><br />Steve M.

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Posted By: <b>arcade</b><p>Larry, would you like to email me your credit card information and see if you still feel that way!? <br /><br />Understanding your perspective, there's little reason to bump the thread then.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />Bingo!!!!!<br /><br />And to think when I joined here and in the early days I thought you were the bad guy.<br /><br />It is Bretta and his belittling others for not making the great contributions he makes--punk rock and changing subjects fron serious subjects to the one thing he knows something about...punk rock and how to find it on u tube.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Steve, I have a question - you are a lawyer correct? - I'm wondering why above you gave just as much credence to Bobby writing down a bunch of numbers which could easily be fabricated to edacra's screenshot of his request for cancellation?

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I still read, but rarely post. It just proves that the board hasn't gotten any better by me not posting. You still have everything occurring that I was accused of being the instigator of. So those of you that were so willing to take me task for going off topic all time, why aren't you acting the way towards Barry and the others that always very off topic? (No offense meant towards you Barry. You are OK in my book. Just pointing out the hypocracy of the board.)<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>OK, gave a different page when I clicked the link. I'll try again.<br /><br /><br />Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.

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Posted By: <b>arcade</b><p>SteveM ? Excuse me? <br /><br />What are you implying, and why are you researching my contact information?

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Arrggh. Dan contributes regularly to this board. He answers all kinds of questions, particularly in the area of photo ID's and early baseball in the Great Plains (Nebraska in particular). He knows a lot about non-MLB vintage baseball including local and minor league teams. He has jumped in countless times to help out and add to threads in a meaningful way that I can only aspire to.<br /><br />Punk rock and YouTube as his only posts? Wow. <br /><br />Joann

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Dan:<br /><br />Because I just can't believe any honest person would do such a thing. <br /><br />Bill:<br /><br />???????<br /><br />Barak:<br /><br />Just answer the question.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Joann,<br /><br />Its too bad that with some knowledge he chooses to insult me--he is the one who started this(scroll upward)--if he would like to apologize I will accept. If not thats fine too

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>He said he was from NY,NY earlier. I easily found his name in New York on one site. Tried to paste the link but it hooked up to a totally different search on that site. Just did a search for him on another site and got his name, address, and number which I will not post.<br /><br />I don't understand where you are going with this whole bit about him not being able to be looked up and questioning his name. Unless of course you are talking with Bobby offline and he's telling you more information that is probably incorrect.<br><br>Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.

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Posted By: <b>arcade</b><p>SteveM, Can I get an answer? <br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Bill:<br /><br />Why would I talk to Bobby? I have no vested interest in this thread other than to try to discredit the person who told me to "piss off".<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p><br />Barak:<br /><br />You just got my answer.<br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Yeah, this board is such better place without me <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>Wow. I didn't think people spent that much time on another person simply because they said "piss off". Oh well, to each his own.<br><br>Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jim, I apologize to the board for even mentioning your nickname. I'm sure if not for me you would still be in lurking mode and we wouldn't have been graced with your presence tonight.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Yes Bill, to each his own.<br /><br />Curious too that someone else is looking this guy up. Why hasn't Barak questioned you on that?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>arcade</b><p><br /><br />Let me make this very clear. None of this discussion entitles anyone to invade my privacy. Period. <br /><br />Bobby already has my address.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>yeah Steve what gives.....are you representing vintagecardpricing or something ? I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think I need to see anymore "evidence" whether it be real or made up, to form an opinion as to what happened here. <br />

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Bretta,<br /><br />Good--and I don't apologize for mentioning your--s-head. Now leave me alone and go back to doing your rock things--hopefully on a separate thread or a separate message board.

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>"But as I understand it Barak XXXXX isn't really your full name and if one were to try to locate you under that name they could not."<br />================================================= ================================================== <br /><br />When I read the above statement by you, I read it as you questioning if he even used his real name. That's how I read it. If I'm wrong on that, I apologize.<br /><br />ARCADE-I was simply looking into the validity of the statement. Nothing I've seen online is going to be posted here, other than the location of the false IP address Bobby posted. <br /><br /><br />Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.<br /><br />edited last name out

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>It's changed a huge amount...can't you tell? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Barry, I want an acknowledgement that this thread has topped all others.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Wow...so far Crandell has called me a S-Head (whatever that is? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> ) and an idiot. All I called him was the Backbone of the hobby. He sure is a sensitive fella.

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>There's a lot of people on here with too much time on their hands...

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Dave:<br /><br />No, I do not represent VCP. I have never spoken to Bobby.<br /><br />Bill:<br /><br />What evidence has been presented that Bobby posted a "false" IP address?<br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>arcade</b><p>Well now everyone is doing a background check on me after you implied I have a fictitious name. <br /><br />Yeah I told you to "piss off"....are you going out of your way to justify the tone I took with you? As for who you decide to do business with, and how they treat you - play at your own risk. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>If you read it. The IP address that Bobby posted on here, claiming that it was a log of arcade logging into his site, originates to the northeast of Wichita, KS. Arcade posted above what city, state he lives in and it is not KS, far from it. The IP address is not necessarily 'false', if you're looking to play with words, but it is not the one belonging to arcade.<br><br>Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Can I have a group hug? It's "cards" guys.....

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>We need to get the abortion issue in here, quickly, before Leon locks this.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Now everybody is doing a search for your information??? Are you kidding me??? <br /><br />Dave

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Bingo again Jay--serious discussion???? Here??? Time for Bretta to jump in with a rock post and a u-tube song. And the moderator thinks thats great.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Bill:<br /><br />I did read it. Now let us think about it. Barak has acknowledged that Bobby has his address. Don't you think that Bobby would be smart emough to make up an IP address from where Barak lives?<br /><br />Leon:<br /><br />I'm willing if Barak will apologize for telling me to "piss off". <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>The fact of the matter is you didn't really have any reason to tell Steve to "piss off" to begin with...you were the one claiming how honorable and mannerly you've been....then you stooped to that level with someone that was just trying to make some sense out of all this<br /><br />Dave

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>No Jeff--not the pro-abortion posts again.

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Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>Apparently he wasn't.<br /><br /><br />Change your socks, drink water, and drive on.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>1. WHy does eveyone want to fight and then go and have dinner together ?<br />2.Soap operas usually start at 1:00 and last til 4 on most channels.<br />3.Iam selling famous Hungarian recipes, Goulash- Chicken Paprikas,etc ,etc. Hungarians make better food then any restaurant in NY.<br />4.give the guy his money back and move on.<br />5.There will be no refunds on my recipes. All nationalities stick<br />together, but in this world....it is every Hungarian for themselves

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>There is no need for that is there?<br /><br />Dave