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bk400 10-21-2025 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 2545493)
I don't agree with your logic. The Blue Jays are owned by Rogers Communications, a Canadian company, and where do you think they get their money from? From Canadians! This is our team! The whole country is going to be watching the World Series now.

Shohei, we're coming for you !!

After pitching in Philly, going to Toronto will be like playing at home for Shohei!

Peter_Spaeth 10-21-2025 09:05 PM

Toronto in 6.

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2545571)
Toronto in 6.

Is this a wish or a prediction?

Balticfox 10-21-2025 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2545467)
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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2545451)
For me, I'd love to see the Dodgers wipe the floor with the Jays so that small market teams stop bitching and moaning and starting spending money to compete.

+1000. If I hear any more about how "we need a salary cap in baseball" my head is going to explode. Spend some money or sell the team to someone who will.

You've got it backward . If the Dodgers who have the second highest (or highest depending on your accounting) payroll in MLB repeat as World Series champions, the bitching and moaning about the rich teams buying championships will just increase.

But the Toronto Blue Jays aren't exactly a tight fisted team either. Their payroll is the fifth highest.

:(

Balticfox 10-21-2025 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2545473)
Do you all think any of the small market US teams would ever move to Canada? I was thinking Pittsburgh to Montreal; Seattle to Vancouver; Tampa to Toronto.

I don't like any of those. How about these instead?

1) Vancouver Devil Rays
2) Ottawa Nationals
3) Calgary Rockies
4) Edmonton (Forest) Rangers

I'd rename them all though.

:confused:

bk400 10-21-2025 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545582)
You've got it backward . If the Dodgers who have the secon highest (or highest depending on your accounting) payroll in MLB repeat as World Series champions, the bitching and moaning about the rich teams buying championships will just increase.

The Toronto Blue Jays aren't exactly a tight fisted team either. Their payroll is the fifth highest.

:(

I guess you're right about the bitching and moaning. I wonder how Angels fans and Pirates fans seem fine about their owners making assloads of money while fielding losers every single season.

And it's not even like the Jets and the New York Football Giants where the organizations spend money but still suck. Those are incompetent organizations. It's almost like it's the business model of the Angels and the Pirates to suck to the point just above where fans can still take it. They're not incompetent organizations at all. If I were a fan of those teams, I'd be insulted that the owner takes me for such a chump.

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545582)
You've got it backward . If the Dodgers who have the second highest (or highest depending on your accounting) payroll in MLB repeat as World Series champions, the bitching and moaning about the rich teams buying championships will just increase.

What is it you think I have backward? I know the complaining will increase. My point is that it's a ridiculous complaint.

Balticfox 10-21-2025 11:11 PM

Ridiculous? How?

Is it ridiculous for a business owner to treat his business as a business as opposed to operating it for the community in the public interest?

And don't you think that a less competitive "playing field" is not in MLB's best interests? MLB 's share of the pro sports market does seem to have dwindled in the last 75 years.

:confused:

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545600)
Ridiculous? How?

Is it ridiculous for a business owner to treat his business as a business as opposed to operating it for the community in the public interest?

I'm not sure what you're talking about here, or how you got there from my comment.

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545600)
And don't you think that a less competitive "playing field" is not in MLB's best interests? MLB 's share of the pro sports market does seem to have dwindled in the last 75 years.

:confused:

Owning an MLB team is a license to print money. All the owners and the league overall are in great financial shape. The cheapskate owners would love a salary cap because they, at least in some cases, would get to pay players less than what they're worth.

Balticfox 10-21-2025 11:41 PM

If there appears to be a correlation between rich teams and championship teams, how is such a complaint "ridiculous"? What's wrong with more competitive balance? Does that not make a sport more rather than less interesting?

:confused:

bk400 10-22-2025 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545605)
If there appears to be a correlation between rich teams and championship teams, how is such a complaint "ridiculous"? What's wrong with more competitive balance? Does that not make a sport more rather than less interesting?

:confused:

All teams (owners) are rich. It's a question of how much the owners want to spend on fielding a championship level team. As long as you have 4-5 teams with owners who are spendthrift dreamers and fans of both baseball and their cities, that's good enough for competitive balance. Let the junior varsity teams play each other during the regular season, but when it comes to the playoffs, I'm perfectly fine watching the juggernauts thrash it out.

Beercan collector 10-24-2025 09:03 AM

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LOL Geddy Lee Behind home plate during Springers home run

Balticfox 10-24-2025 04:48 PM

So it all starts tonight - the Not-Brooklyn Bums versus the Toronto Red, White and Blue Jays!

:cool:

jb217676 10-25-2025 06:57 AM

Great start to the Series last night!!! Now it's the Dodgers turn to feel the pain! Go Jays!

ClementeFanOh 10-25-2025 07:03 AM

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Now THAT was a power explosion! Maybe my rooting for the Jays won't doom
them after all:) Trent King

PS- cool screen capture of Geddy, I looked for him but failed.

bk400 10-25-2025 07:13 AM

It was almost as if they knew what pitches the Dodgers were going to throw before they threw them.

Peter_Spaeth 10-25-2025 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2545577)
Is this a wish or a prediction?

So far, so good.

Beercan collector 10-25-2025 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh (Post 2546123)
Now THAT was a power explosion! Maybe my rooting for the Jays won't doom
them after all:) Trent King

PS- cool screen capture of Geddy, I looked for him but failed.

Thanks, this will sound crazy but after watching the accompanying interview I’d rather listen to Geddy Lee talk about baseball than anybody - Hope they don’t miss an opportunity to invite him into the booth

samosa4u 10-25-2025 10:40 AM

How come the Dodgers didn't do their stupid dance last night ?? :D

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/C49k0CM15G8/h...go3qdjc37bc89g

Balticfox 10-25-2025 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2546125)
It was almost as if they knew what pitches the Dodgers were going to throw before they threw them.

"Hitting is timing; pitching consists of upsetting timing." - Warren Spahn

Did the Dodgers merely trot a series of fireballers out to the mound? Do the Dodgers actually have any pitchers who can throw a knuckleball or even a screwball to upset the timing of opposing batters?

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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 2546174)
How come the Dodgers didn't do their stupid dance last night ??

That kind of dancing draws snickers anywhere outside of La La Land. It's not something that would go over big in Hoboken or Hamtramck let alone across international borders.

;)

jb217676 10-25-2025 12:42 PM

Like every other team in the playoffs, the Dodgers are underestimating the Jays. The Jays are good 1-9 in the lineup with a bunch of moving parts. Dodgers relievers are awful too. Jays in 4.

4815162342 10-25-2025 02:06 PM

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bk400 10-25-2025 11:32 PM

How demoralizing must it have been for the Jays to know that Yama got better the more times he faced their lineup. It's almost like he's picking up more intel on the batters than the other way around. Take that, Billy Beane!

Also, I think that for the Cy Young and perhaps also for the MVP, they should take the post season into account. Yamamoto is a big game hunter, while Skenes has never pitched a meaningful game. It should matter.

Snapolit1 10-27-2025 11:50 AM

Watched the new Netflix documentary last night about the collapse of the Expos. Great franchise and amazing fan base. Collapsed in large part because there wasn't sufficient money available from the owners to be competitive. The idea that people are complaining about Dodgers management is absurd. Don't have the money to field a competitive team? Sell the team to someone who does. Professional sports franchises in the US right now are among the most valuable assets in the world. If you can't play in that end of the pool . . . go home. No one has to buy a baseball team. The anger should be directed at 9-8 owners who don't even hide the fact that they aren't trying.

Balticfox 10-27-2025 12:09 PM

Huh?! It's not up to the owners to try to do anything but make money. It's up to the coaching staff and players to try to win.

:rolleyes:

Snapolit1 10-27-2025 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2546198)
Like every other team in the playoffs, the Dodgers are underestimating the Jays. The Jays are good 1-9 in the lineup with a bunch of moving parts. Dodgers relievers are awful too. Jays in 4.

I don’t see how the Dodgers are underestimating the Jays. The US media certainly is underestimating them. As are the sports gambling places. Dodger fans are likely underestimating the Jays too. But dont see how you can suggest the Dodgers themselves are underestimating them.

bk400 10-27-2025 09:58 PM

Shohei. The f**king Dodgers get Shohei, and we pay more to get Juan Soto. It's not fair.

Balticfox 10-27-2025 10:18 PM

Without Shohei Ohtani the Dodgers wouldn't be in the World Series right now. Without Juan Soto, the Mets might be?

:confused:

Balticfox 10-27-2025 10:34 PM

What really astounds me watching these games though is just how many times pitchers throw the ball into the dirt or even bounce it before the plate. What's even more astonishing is how often batters swing at those pitches. And these are the best players in the world theoretically....

:eek:

BobbyStrawberry 10-27-2025 10:54 PM

Wow, back-to-back inning-ending TOOTBLANs. Suzyn, you can't predict baseball!

Peter_Spaeth 10-28-2025 10:19 PM

For all the ceaseless Ohtani talk, the series is tied and the Blue Jays have home field advantage.

BobbyStrawberry 10-28-2025 10:25 PM

What a way to bounce back from last night.

Casey2296 10-28-2025 10:38 PM

Great Series, nothing better than playoff baseball.

ClementeFanOh 10-29-2025 03:55 AM

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Couldn't agree more, Phil! Well done by the Jays in Game 4. Trent King

bk400 10-29-2025 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh (Post 2546848)
Couldn't agree more, Phil! Well done by the Jays in Game 4. Trent King

Game 3 was easily the best baseball game I've ever seen.

SyrNy1960 10-29-2025 04:02 AM

Nice to see a moment where Shohei Ohtani shows he’s human. But they don’t come very often.

Balticfox 10-29-2025 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2546849)
Game 3 was easily the best baseball game I've ever seen.

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Originally Posted by SyrNy1960 (Post 2546850)
Nice to see a moment where Shohei Ohtani shows he’s human. But they don’t come very often.

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Originally Posted by MLB
No player had ever reached base more than six times in a postseason game -- let alone a World Series game -- before Ohtani reached NINE times in an 18-inning marathon against the Blue Jays.

:eek:

But the Blue Jays found a way to silence his bat yesterday. More off speed pitches perhaps?

:confused:

bk400 10-29-2025 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2546871)
:eek:

But the Blue Jays found a way to silence his bat yesterday. More off speed pitches perhaps?

:confused:

Or maybe Ohtani was just gassed. He had a big 24 hours -- historic Game 3 at the plate and then he went out and pitched a WS game the next day.

When was the last time someone was walked intentionally 4 times in a row in a World Series game? If I'm Mookie Betts, I'm super offended.

jayshum 10-29-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2546881)
Or maybe Ohtani was just gassed. He had a big 24 hours -- historic Game 3 at the plate and then he went out and pitched a WS game the next day.

When was the last time someone was walked intentionally 4 times in a row in a World Series game? If I'm Mookie Betts, I'm super offended.

Mookie may have been offended, but he was also 1 for 8 in the game so the strategy made sense.

Peter_Spaeth 10-29-2025 12:23 PM

Very high risk strategy to put a man on base to pitch to a future HOF player in a tie game, but then again Ohtani was in such a zone that you can see the reasoning.

bk400 10-29-2025 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2546939)
Very high risk strategy to put a man on base to pitch to a future HOF player in a tie game, but then again Ohtani was in such a zone that you can see the reasoning.

Mookie's waiting for Game 6. Sorry, low blow.

Huysmans 10-29-2025 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2545571)
Toronto in 6.

So much for the naysayers....
Your prediction is bang on so far. 👍

Peter_Spaeth 10-29-2025 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Huysmans (Post 2547036)
So much for the naysayers....
Your prediction is bang on so far. 👍

Looking good although Yamamoto.

Balticfox 10-29-2025 10:35 PM

Talk about bouncing back from a heartbreaking 18 inning loss!

:eek:

BobbyStrawberry 10-29-2025 11:19 PM

I really wanted to see Yamamoto in the 19rh inning of that game...

ClementeFanOh 10-30-2025 03:50 AM

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Good for the Jays! It's all in front of them now, up to them to grab the title.

Trent King

Snapolit1 10-30-2025 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh (Post 2547048)
Good for the Jays! It's all in front of them now, up to them to grab the title.

Trent King

Yesavage amazing. A month ago I had never seen the kid or heard of him. To step into a game last night and be that dominant. Wow. Amazing achievement.

jb217676 10-30-2025 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2547055)
Yesavage amazing. A month ago I had never seen the kid or heard of him. To step into a game last night and be that dominant. Wow. Amazing achievement.

At the trade deadline this year, the price for the Jays to get an elite closer was Yesavage. From what I heard, that was the pitching prospect every team wanted.

Balticfox 10-30-2025 10:08 AM

I kind of wonder why Shohei Ohtani ended up swinging himself out of his batting helmet in the fifth. He must have been trying to kill the ball by swinging through his power alley. Perhaps a reminder from an old school coach (John McGraw?) might be in order "Hey, superstar, don't just swing for the fences. Hit the ball where it's pitched!"

:confused:

D. Bergin 10-30-2025 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2547089)
I kind of wonder why Shohei Ohtani ended up swinging himself out of his batting helmet in the fifth. He must have been trying to kill the ball by swinging through his power alley. Perhaps a reminder from an old school coach (John mcGraw?) might be in order "Hey, superstar, don't just swing for the fences. Hit the ball where it's pitched!"

:confused:

Probably too busy thinking about that children's book he published earlier this year.


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