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Let's make this a "Show us your 1948 Bowman cards" thread. I believe I have 4 or 5. Here is my laminated (with sliced top border) Ralph Kiner.
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Yes - It DOES have a life of it's own..... Have you ever watched a movie with friends and then held a discussion afterwards in which you all completely disagree about how good the movie was? This is strange because surely you have all experienced exactly the same film, and so you should all have exactly the same response, right? Of course, it is not so simple. Depending on the type of text that was experienced, the cultural backgrounds of the various audience members, and countless other reasons, it is possible for different people to respond to different texts in different ways. Such things interest us in English classes, but there is an important clarification to make here: we are not focused on whether a text is good or bad, but rather how effective it is. There are three broad questions we can ask to help us determine this: What is the intended purpose of the text? How does the creator attempt to achieve their intended purpose? How effectively does the creator achieve their intended purpose? Or, put more bluntly: Why was the text created? How was the text created? How well was the text created? Just as different people will agree or disagree about how good or bad a movie is, so too will different people offer different answers to these three questions. In other words, everyone can offer a unique interpretation of a text. Interpretation - a critical explanation of what a creator is trying to achieve in a given text. When it comes to offering a textual interpretation, what matters is the evidence we use to support our claims. And what form should this evidence take? To make a convincing case in favor of our unique interpretation, we need to make specific references to the elements and techniques used by the creator to communicate meaning. This is the reason we spend so much of our time in English classes pulling texts apart to see how they work. Once we can identify and understand the different "pieces" of a text, we can use this knowledge to establish what a creator is trying to achieve, and evaluate how effectively they accomplish this. Importantly, this process involves finding connections between the different elements and techniques within a text. Just as the engine of a car needs lots of small components to work together to generate motion, so too do the different components of a text need to work together to create meaning. Sharing Findings Having formed an interpretation of what a creator is attempting to accomplish through their work, it is no good keeping this interpretation to ourselves—we need to share it! This process begins with classroom discussion. Here, we have a chance to share our interpretations verbally with one another. It is through this sharing of ideas that we begin to unlock the underlying messages within texts, often catching things we missed the first time. Our final interpretation of a text is usually shared in a more formal manner. This could be an essay or oral presentation, or some other medium which allows us to express our ideas in a comprehensive way. Here, we need to put together everything we have learned from our analysis to offer a convincing interpretation for our audience. Importantly, we should not be afraid to change our interpretations throughout any stage of this process. Other students may challenge us in classroom discussions, and we may receive specific critiques in our draft feedback. This is good, as it encourages us to reconsider our interpretations, and improve them if the feedback is justified. Top tip! Be willing to alter your interpretations based on what others have to say. Literary texts are wonderful things, and the more we learn about how they work, the more we can appreciate their aesthetic qualities. We can also learn to admire or critique what they are trying to achieve, and then share our unique interpretations with others. |
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Yes, communication can be complicated, nuances can be missed, and people absorb and interpret information differently. We are all familiar with the sarcastic comeback "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." Choosing to treat Net54 communications as individual works of art is one way to look at it, I guess. |
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Text is as text does. To text or not to text, that is the question. Life is like a box of texts. Text is a many splendored thing.
Brian (textually speaking, that is) |
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You must be king of the playground. I asked a simple question of whether seller provided a tracking number, and you turned it into this because I used the word "ever" (after already asking the question several times without using that word). Who is being a fool and spouting nonsense? LOL |
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Thread Too Long Will Not Read That being said, apparently they've lowered the bar so low in Ohio, one can trip over it. |
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I'm pretty sure this whole act of you and your pal is nothing more than an attempt to distract from the question I asked. No one is as dumb as you to appear to be. You must be trying to protect the seller from questions. |
I had a fairly disappointing purchase last year where I bought a card that I wouldn't say that the scan was exactly doctored, but the chroma was turned way up and the card didn't look anything like the scan. When I reached back out to the buyer he pretty much gas lighted me...it's obviously the same card...you should have known by the grade that there was a crease (which was not disclosed even though I asked up front)...I wouldn't expect someone from Net54 not to know what to expect. I just called it a day. What looked like a good buy turned out to be a full price retail buy, but it was a somewhat scarce and desirable card so I just figured I'd consider it done and try not to worry about it any further.
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Final update - the $15 or $20 to mail, but worth probably, what, $150 for 6 raw 1948 Bowmans? Well, they were delivered today to someone in Petaluma, California. I hope they enjoy them, and experience less drama with them than me.
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Hmmm the plot thickens . Makes me wonder if seller/shipper mixed packages/ addresses / buyers info. All in all what a shit show this turned out to be . Im sure you are i know i would be disappointed. P.s. I really hope those Bowmans make their way to you eventually. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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1) A discussion forum frequented by old guys. 2) Your wife. If you want sympathy, go to your dog. ;) |
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Now I also feel sorry for Octavio. Looks like he might have mispriced/fat fingered the sale price and sold $150 worth of cards for $15. Now it is very apparent it clearly wasn't about $15. |
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Even my dog hates me. :(
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I don't get it. Octavio is a long standing member here as well as the Net54 group on Facebook. He has yet to explain anything.. Why?
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Wonder if there’s an identical address in Petaluma
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There's a reason Octavio priced them where he did. |
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/19715643017...mis&media=COPY |
All I'm saying is your username is all people know and is usually your word if your a good member/seller/buyer or not. Why would someone jeopardize that on a $15.00 sale?
It makes no sense.. Octavio? |
Gotta be one of the most boring and useless threads in net54 history. At least someone started posting some cards to look at.....
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1) The USPS is a government agency. Therefore the profit motive isn't a factor here. It's not their money so nobody cares (or gets fired). 2) The more convoluted the journey, the more man hours the journey requires. This facilitates empire building by the postal workers' union while at the same time increasing job security for the individual employee. So it's a win, win situation for the post office workers. The only losers are those tracking the shipment and complaining about it on discussion forums. ;) |
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Here's a picture of a card, because I rarely get a chance to post this one.
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Nice Spahn @bnorth ! Yep me too dig it more than the fox one. Idk just like it better than the fox. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Lesson learned - USPS is a shell of it's former self. If you must use USPS, pay the difference and insist on Priority Mail or better.
Lesson learned - Post nothing until you gain the facts. Especially in a public forum. Lesson learned - (learned over and over and over) If it seems too good to be true, it is. Lesson learned - There are a lot of true hobby experts on this forum, who offer good, sound advice, and who are truly helpful when things go wrong. Lesson learned - There is another element that seems to exist only to appear all-knowing. In attempting to "one up" them, it escalates into an ill-conceived rant, giving them the satisfaction they desperately crave. Lesson learned - NEVER post your misfortune in a public forum. |
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