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19cbb 08-07-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1568738)
Jimmy welcome back. Would love to see what's in those stacks of cdvs and stereoviews!

Thanks Clint. Will do!

GaryPassamonte 08-07-2016 01:58 PM

Where have you been, Jimmy?

jpop43 08-07-2016 07:00 PM

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Here are some recent 19th C. pickups...well, very recent...both are products of the Atlantic City National this past week.

1. c. 1850s - 1860s, single piece, Lemon Peel Style base ball.
2. H. Harwood & Sons Mfg. sales slip for an 1871 transaction of baseballs and bats.

Jonathan
www.dugouttreasures.com

Leon 08-08-2016 07:12 AM

Love the early baseball balls like that. They look so primitive. Thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by jpop43 (Post 1569517)
Here are some recent 19th C. pickups...well, very recent...both are products of the Atlantic City National this past week.

1. c. 1850s - 1860s, single piece, Lemon Peel Style base ball.
2. H. Harwood & Sons Mfg. sales slip for an 1871 transaction of baseballs and bats.

Jonathan
www.dugouttreasures.com


Bliggity 08-08-2016 07:27 PM

Picked up my first 19th Century this week, very excited.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pskdkckpky.jpghttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psy1bv4l43.jpg

19cbb 08-09-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1569406)
Where have you been, Jimmy?

Hey Gary, just took a 4 year break from the forum but didn't abandon my collecting habits :)
How's that Ross Barnes collection going?

GaryPassamonte 08-11-2016 09:15 AM

Very slow on the Barnes stuff, Jimmy. Most are holding onto what they've got.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:29 PM

First attempt to post image
 
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I have never posted anything from my collection for a number of reasons, not the least of which is I did not know how (also no scanner). But Derek h2oya tried to teach me how with photos so here goes. Apologies in advance.
Since my main interests are books and photographs of the Wrights and Chadwick, I am starting wiyh a page from Chadwick's Game of Base Ball (1868) on which Chadwick has made a major correction to the printed text. There are other examples.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:32 PM

Warren cdv George Wright
 
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Warren cdv of George Weight formerly part of the Cope.and collection. (Mcvey and O'rourke from that collection now reside in other board members collections.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:35 PM

Chadwick
 
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Pearsall cabinet of Chadwick with an inscription to Abe Yaeger. Uncle Harry was the title of one of Chadwick's columns.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:38 PM

1877 Boston
 
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1877 Boston team composite with Murnane correction, inscribed on back "Tim from Jake, Dec 26, 1894. (Murnane from Jacob Morse)

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:40 PM

Inscription
 
Inscription in Spalding's National Game to George Wright. The book has about 100 corrections, comments and annotations by Wright and I have attempted to attach one of my favorites.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:42 PM

Screwed up already
 
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Here are attachments noted above.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:43 PM

Spalding inscription
 
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Could not figure out how to put in 1 post, sorry.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:46 PM

Gould, Cone, Jackson
 
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Cdv of Gould by the other Warren, WS. With ovals of Fred Cone and Sam Jackson that are by JW Black and were made for the Mort Rogers scorecards, unfortunately no scorecard.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:50 PM

1871 Boston stock
 
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1871 Boston stock certificate signed by Eben Jordan (on back), founder Jordan Marsh, Ivers Adams, president and Harrison Gardner, husband of Isabella Gardner of Museum fame.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:52 PM

End for now with another book
 
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1860 edition of Ball Player's Pocket Companion, George Wright's copy.

JeremyW 08-16-2016 03:01 PM

Bruce- Amazing pieces of baseball history!

h2oya311 08-16-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyW (Post 1572941)
Bruce- Amazing pieces of baseball history!

Bruce - simply stunning! Your 19th century material is top-notch all the way! Especially your books w/ annotations...

We still have a bit of work to do to get your photos/scans up to snuff, but not a bad start!

GaryPassamonte 08-16-2016 04:16 PM

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Bruce? Some of the best stuff I've seen in some time. Thanks for posting.

I too, have a Murnane related piece.

bgar3 08-16-2016 04:40 PM

Thank you
 
Derek, I tried, thank you for pushing me. Gary, I think Murnane tried to accumulate older photos, possibly for inclusion in a planned book or guide, that never materialized. I have what I believe to be a tintype of Murnane which I will post to see if it can be confirmed somehow. I am glad you started this thread, I will try to post more later.

JeremyW 08-16-2016 04:52 PM

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I'll be forever in debt to the Net54 member who let me add this one to my collection.

JeremyW 08-16-2016 05:17 PM

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Another favorite. 1891 Beaneaters & by far the largest photo I own, somewhere around 20 inches wide.

x2drich2000 08-16-2016 05:51 PM

Not a 19th century guy normally, but fell in love with the pose and image quality as soon as I saw it. Best guess is it is Fred Rehse, but still can't figure out how a guy who played in 2 games has such a great looking cabinet and multiple N172s but, as best I've been able to determine, nothing else.

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...0Rehse%20f.jpg

DJ

shernan30 08-16-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 1573005)
Not a 19th century guy normally, but fell in love with the pose and image quality as soon as I saw it. Best guess is it is Fred Rehse, but still can't figure out how a guy who played in 2 games has such a great looking cabinet and multiple N172s but, as best I've been able to determine, nothing else.



DJ


Great looking cabinet DJ. Such a clear image.

bgar3 08-17-2016 10:37 AM

Massachusett's game stereoview?
 
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Boston Common stereoview described as showing the only Massachusetts game action. Photo is by John D Heywood and published by Frank Rowell, who was Heywood's publisher from 1863 to 1865. Believe yellow mount is indication of stereoview from that time period also.

bgar3 08-17-2016 10:40 AM

Jarvis field 1869
 
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Jarvis field (Harvard), by George K Warren, with practice or game in progress. In 1869 the Red Stockings played on this field.

bgar3 08-17-2016 10:43 AM

Tim Murnane tintype?
 
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I believe this to be a tintype of Tim Murnane. Photographer is J R Applegate, Vine Street Gallery, Philadelphia. I would appreciate any help on the identification. Thank you

tennisguy 08-17-2016 11:14 AM

Tintype
 
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Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 1573262)
I believe this to be a tintype of Tim Murnane. Photographer is J R Applegate, Vine Street Gallery, Philadelphia. I would appreciate any help on the identification. Thank you

Bruce,

Interesting. I have a Joe Battin portrait tintype from the same studio and photographer. There is an interesting story behind them. I'll PM you.

joeadcock 08-17-2016 08:58 PM

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Bresnahan, Roger bottom on floor........with Lima

bmarlowe1 08-17-2016 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 1573262)
I believe this to be a tintype of Tim Murnane. Photographer is J R Applegate, Vine Street Gallery, Philadelphia. I would appreciate any help on the identification. Thank you

So - you own that tintype. I've been asked about this one. I can't eliminate the possibility that it is Murnane. One can actually make a strong argument that it's him - too many individualizing characteristics seem to match. This one is associated with another tintype claimed to depict Joe Battin - that one also appears to be correct.

bgar3 08-18-2016 06:10 AM

Thank you
 
Thank you Mark, that is very helpful. Much appreciated. Glad to hear the Battin also appears to be him, and is by same photographer.

EvilKing00 08-18-2016 06:12 AM

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Attachment 241731

Yoda 08-18-2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by joeadcock (Post 1573565)
Bresnahan, Roger bottom on floor........with Lima

I never imagined that Roger Bresnahan played ball in Peru. Learn something new every day.

FourStrikes 08-18-2016 11:59 AM

assuming it's sarcasm, but...
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1573760)
I never imagined that Roger Bresnahan played ball in Peru. Learn something new every day.

it's Lima, OHIO of the Ohio State League...

Yoda 08-18-2016 12:47 PM

Not sarcasm but, I, hoped, light humor.

h2oya311 08-18-2016 01:28 PM

who knew there were two of these floating around (another Bresnahan cabinet w/ Lima):

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...Bresnahan1.jpg

Got this cabinet as well showing Bresnahan w/ his Manistee teammates in 1895:

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...Bresnahan1.jpg

Paul S 08-18-2016 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FourStrikes (Post 1573809)
it's Lima, OHIO of the Ohio State League...

Just a hop, skip and a jump from Peru, IL. John was close enough for me;)

FourStrikes 08-18-2016 02:12 PM

upon further review...
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1573827)
Not sarcasm but, I, hoped, light humor.

light humor is *great*, but..."internet-speak"/intent can sometimes be tough to decipher - I personally saw it as what it was, but...one can never tell what someone is thinking (plenty of uninformed out there - of which I assumed you were not one of them, but...) minus the inclusion of a :)

Rob L 08-18-2016 11:23 PM

Tintype
 
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I love this 1/2 bib!

tedzan 08-19-2016 09:33 AM

Hey guys,

I must say that this gem slightly goes beyond 19th Century; however, the majority of the subjects portrayed here are 19th Century dudes.

Besides, the significance of this piece is that it represents the year that there was no Major League World Series.


1904 Eastern (International) League Champions

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...904buffalo.jpg



TED Z
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joeadcock 08-20-2016 05:51 AM

[QUOTE=h2oya311;1573854]who knew there were two of these floating around (another Bresnahan cabinet w/ Lima):

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...Bresnahan1.jpg

Derek

Is this Lima cabinet of yours you posted earlier, large?

1880nonsports 08-20-2016 04:50 PM

OJ
 
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I showed this one before but think it fits

bgar3 08-22-2016 12:16 PM

1869 sheet music
 
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1869 red stocking sheet music in a period frame.

GasHouseGang 08-22-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1880nonsports (Post 1574774)
I showed this one before but think it fits

That is so weird, how the angles are dropping cigarettes down on the girl in that image. At least they don't actually have the angels themselves smoking.:rolleyes:

h2oya311 08-22-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by joeadcock (Post 1574513)

Derek

Is this Lima cabinet of yours you posted earlier, large?

photo measures 9.5"x11" and is mounted to 11"x13". So yes, I would say it is rather large.

tedzan 08-23-2016 06:59 PM

Continuing from Posts #3 and #31 in this thread, here are the remaining 26 cards in the Goodwin Champions (N162) set.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...162boxbill.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sbike7xx_1.jpg



TED Z
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bgar3 09-03-2016 03:03 PM

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I like this thread so much I am stretching it a bit to show this painting. Although not from the 19th century, it depicts A G Spalding from the famous Warren cabinet pose. Not sure who painted or when, but it will have to serve as my Warren cabinet for now. I got it in a Hunt auction, which described it as possibly King Kelly.

bgar3 09-03-2016 03:09 PM

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One more painting, also not from 19th century, but entitled "an old timer at the bat", by Griswold Tyng, a student of Howard Pyle. It was likely painted about 1910 to 1920. I like to think the catcher's mask, which is featured is somehow connected to James Tyng. If anyone knows anything about where this appeared, or a connection between the artist and James Tyng, I would love to hear about it. I have seen his work as calendars and magazine illustration.

Yoda 09-05-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smokelessjoe (Post 1563472)
Hey Ted,

While not cards this is slightly related to your post....

I suffered a very uneasy feeling watching Mr. Rowe laboring on his bike; it must have been very hard on the testicles and he appears to be showing the strain.


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