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CMIZ5290 06-13-2015 04:08 PM

I think you should crack it out and send it to PRO graders. Get your grade of 6, sell it, and call it a day....

Bigb13 06-15-2015 05:01 PM

I think you should mind your own business

Bigb13 07-03-2015 08:29 AM

Bump still for sale

Gradedcardman 07-03-2015 09:13 AM

Need a price
 
Still need a price...

Bigb13 07-03-2015 09:41 AM

25k or trades I am working on the 1914 Cracker Jacks

1952boyntoncollector 07-03-2015 11:17 AM

so this card will never go to auction.....

Peter_Spaeth 07-03-2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427180)
so this card will never go to auction.....

Why give up 20 percent to an AH and risk a weak sale, if you can sell it direct?

1952boyntoncollector 07-03-2015 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427188)
Why give up 20 percent to an AH and risk a weak sale, if you can sell it direct?


'IF' being the operative word...........AH's must be around for a reason...

you paying 25k for the card peter? go save this guy 5k by buying it direct...

pokerplyr80 07-03-2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427188)
Why give up 20 percent to an AH and risk a weak sale, if you can sell it direct?

The question was asked because the OP said he was sending it to auction a couple of months ago.

Peter_Spaeth 07-03-2015 11:48 AM

Yes, I read the thread, but obviously he changed his mind or he would have sent it.

1952boyntoncollector 07-03-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427197)
Yes, I read the thread, but obviously he changed his mind or he would have sent it.

right that was my point...and if he says it again then we already have some history there...

Peter_Spaeth 07-03-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427200)
right that was my point...and if he says it again then we already have some history there...

So what's your point? It's his card he can do what he wants.

1952boyntoncollector 07-03-2015 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427238)
So what's your point? It's his card he can do what he wants.

correct he can do what he wants..but we have history now of what he doesn't want to do...

MVSNYC 07-03-2015 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427188)
Why give up 20 percent to an AH and risk a weak sale, if you can sell it direct?


FWIW- any AH today would offer 0% seller's fee to auction this caliber of a card...he could probably negotiate to get a few % points of buyer's premium. Very common these days with big ticket items.

1952boyntoncollector 07-04-2015 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1427344)
FWIW- any AH today would offer 0% seller's fee to auction this caliber of a card...he could probably negotiate to get a few % points of buyer's premium. Very common these days with big ticket items.

the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

frankbmd 07-04-2015 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427384)
the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..


A good foundation in mathematics is essential in any prewar collecting enterprise.


TUM301 07-04-2015 06:59 AM

But they promised, NO MATH !!!!!

MVSNYC 07-04-2015 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427384)
the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

Peter_Spaeth 07-04-2015 05:31 PM

Or one bidder and the consignor. :D:eek:

1952boyntoncollector 07-04-2015 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1427631)
Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

my point was the auction route would be better than direct sale if cant sell the card and have to bump a thread for years with no takers for example

CMIZ5290 07-04-2015 08:15 PM

Please, please Leon....If you have any sympathy, end this stupid thread...thanks

Bigb13 07-04-2015 09:02 PM

You don't have to read it. Just trying to sell my card.

Sean 07-05-2015 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1427698)
You don't have to read it. Just trying to sell my card.

Sell it to whom?

Gradedcardman 07-05-2015 07:49 AM

Nice
 
Peter is spot on !!

edhans 07-05-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1427631)
Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

Your statement may be true for some cards, including perhaps the OP's Cobb. But if a buyer and seller agree to a price on a particular card, they've established a market value for it. If it's sent to an auction house, it takes a third buyer to establish that value. In the case of equally rare and desirable, yet more thinly traded issues, high grade type cards for instance, if that third buyer doesn't materialize, the seller can take a beating.

1952boyntoncollector 07-06-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edhans (Post 1427777)
Your statement may be true for some cards, including perhaps the OP's Cobb. But if a buyer and seller agree to a price on a particular card, they've established a market value for it. If it's sent to an auction house, it takes a third buyer to establish that value. In the case of equally rare and desirable, yet more thinly traded issues, high grade type cards for instance, if that third buyer doesn't materialize, the seller can take a beating.

disagree that a market value is based on a direct sale....a market value for how much the buyer wants the card...however the seller can always say to the buyer 'if cant sell ill send it to a consignor' so the buyer may try to make an offer to avoid that from happening which is sort of market price as well..so maybe not disagree..!

in addition, when the seller quotes a price and says 'if not sell will send it to an auction' and still receives no takers...its probably an indication that hes asking more than market price if the potential buyers would rather bid at an auction of the card with competition then a direct sale.

Peter_Spaeth 07-06-2015 08:59 PM

Jake if you reply to this it will be your 20th post in this thread. :D

1952boyntoncollector 07-06-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1428375)
Jake if you reply to this it will be your 20th post in this thread. :D

so my 20th is just behind your 21st?

823dek 07-06-2015 10:14 PM

"the card"
 
sell it and the over dramatic male bonding stops. I wish you well with your card.

Bigb13 07-14-2015 02:44 PM

Bump

Scocs 07-14-2015 03:05 PM

Is there a price for this card? I would think that if the seller wishes to sell an item, that a price be listed. If not, auction it off, reserve price or not.

In the same way that a store couldn't exist if there were no prices on its items, so too should this be the rule here. I belong to a music forum, and they stipulate that you cannot sell an item on it without a price listed. Only fair.

Has there even been a picture included of this card yet? Do we know it exists?

Bigb13 07-14-2015 04:30 PM

Price has been stated it is 25k

Scocs 07-14-2015 06:44 PM

Sorry. I didn't gave the patience to sift through all the posts. Has the conditon of the card been stated yet?

Bestdj777 07-14-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scocs (Post 1431261)
Sorry. I didn't gave the patience to sift through all the posts. Has the conditon of the card been stated yet?

There is a picture of it on the first page.

Bigb13 08-07-2015 08:12 AM

Still for sale

Bigb13 08-21-2015 11:35 AM

Still available

Bigb13 08-31-2015 10:04 AM

Bump/ Accepting offers

Bigb13 09-03-2015 06:27 AM

Bumping for price reduction msg me if interested

ullmandds 09-03-2015 08:27 AM

i propose this card would be an excellent candidate for a mississippi burning!

Bigb13 09-03-2015 09:49 AM

What are you talking about

1952boyntoncollector 09-03-2015 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1448834)
What are you talking about

whats the price reduction....you had the intital price so whats the new reduced price...

Bigb13 09-03-2015 10:15 AM

I was at 25 now 20 it's a very rare front back combo

CMIZ5290 09-03-2015 07:06 PM

Will $10k buy it?

Bigb13 09-03-2015 07:44 PM

No sorry

Eric72 09-04-2015 07:13 PM

BST thread with roughly 200 responses...interesting. Sorry, tl:dr. What is the basic gist of this particular kerfuffle?

823dek 09-04-2015 07:36 PM

I like the card, so Iam prepared to offer you....
 
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Joshwesley 09-04-2015 09:31 PM

I'm late to the party and way out of the loop..
What's the cliffs notes on this thread?

I saw the pic.... Looks like an sgc graded card... Is their something wrong with the back of it or something?
Cobb Lennox would be incredibly rare (I would think) but I suspect the back is jacked.

Bigb13 09-04-2015 09:37 PM

What are you talking about jacked it's my card and yes graded by sgc. If by jacked do you mean the picture. Because this is a real card and very rare only about 6 of them

gregr2 09-05-2015 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1449435)
Cobb Lennox would be incredibly rare (I would think) but I suspect the back is jacked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1449438)
What are you talking about jacked it's my card and yes graded by sgc. If by jacked do you mean the picture. Because this is a real card and very rare only about 6 of them

I think by "jacked" he means the back is messed up/damaged in some way.

gnaz01 09-05-2015 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregr2 (Post 1449472)
I think by "jacked" he means the back is messed up/damaged in some way.

The back is pictured in post #7


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