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At this moment, I like the old Flip better than the new one.
That being said, I haven't yet seen the new Flip in person. I'm hoping that over time, the new design will grow on me. In any event, regardless of the changes, SGC has my unconditional full support. What is of primary importance to me is the world class grading expertise that the Company provides. The Flip design is by comparison, is not much more than a footnote. |
New SGC Look?
SGC would just need to use the same color green for the border, the Photoshop examples are great - and there should be no reason why they could not add the border. I was going to get some cards graded this weekend at our local show. I will talk with SGC in person and see what they may have in mind. If they do not make a change I will just have to mix cards up that I sell with older holders and PSA and more ungraded cards. I have studied sales and changes with both companies for a few years. I had wanted to work with just one company for my website, which is one reason I have been holding back on buying too much. Now that my website is completed, I have started to think about just using SGC for cards and autos; this will make me think even more and will hold up sales and finishing my website with consistent product. I may as well go back to a mix of everything - very frustrating
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I didn't read the whole "new SGC look" discussion before formulating my opinion. I saw the change. I thought it was ugly, and I stated my opinion. It just so happened that most everybody else who took the time to state their opinion felt the same waY I did. When I buy a card, I consider only the card itself. Once I acquire the card, though, the flip and slab are very important. The SGC flip + slab combination that has been used up until now was, in my opinion, was the most attractive in the hobby...by far. Now they are changing it. Nobody has a problem with their changing it. We have a problem because what they are changing it to is far less appealing. |
Besides the work around, anyone able to check their submissions?
Also, did they kill off their message boards? |
Yes, You are able to see Your submissions.
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For the sake of comparison:
The old slab + flip: http://imageshack.com/a/img836/9256/rya2.png The proposed flip: http://imageshack.com/a/img835/1834/zrgn.png The proposed flip if it had a green border: http://imageshack.com/a/img842/5340/7x9n.png |
Tell me that Ryan flip is just a mockup. No way in heckfire that is a NM/NM+ card!!!!!!
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And that is the ugliest SGC 92 Ryan I have ever seen ........lol.......you can tell its just for display.
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Would someone please add a simple poll with examples of flip a) proposed new design and flip b) new design with green border? I'm on my phone and am not sure if I can post the examples shown above for exemplars.
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Had some fun playing around with flip designs. I'm far from an expert but I gave it a shot.
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I vote top right
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Dean I like selection 1 alot
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Dean I like top right. Although I would add their millions of SGC watermarks to it.
Personally I don't see the point of a watermark they have proposed. I mean really a watermark? It's 2014 it's not hard to forge a watermark, whereas at least PSA has a hologram going on in the back of their flip that is harder to forge than a bunch of watermarks. Not trying to hate on SGC, they really are a great company. I'm just baffled by this move. Quote:
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Just to go on record...I could live with the new flip but the forest green border is a must or I will be very disappointed......:(
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I'll throw in my two cents just in case SGC actually reads this.
The new, borderless flip looks like something I would print at home (i.e., cheap and unprofessional). I like how the original green border eases the stark contrast between the white label and black background. The bajillion SGC's on the new label aren't pretty either. I have a hard time believing that anyone with substantial graphic design experience could ever produce something so unappealing. In just a few minutes, members of this board have produced higher quality flips. Also, I don't like the red for Authentic. Is green + Authentic not clear enough? I think the red is distracting and doesn't add any value. I've asked a neutral third party who could careless about baseball cards and she ranks the flips accordingly (best to worst): old one, new one if it had a border, and new one without border. I see the SGC holder's current appearance as a competitive advantage. I have no clue (even after reading the response from SGC) why they would mess with success. I'm sure there are some other aspects of their business that would be a much better investment of their time/money. In summary: keep the old flip or go back to the drawing board with some new artists. |
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Then SGC changed their flip this way Oh, I believe in yesterday Suddenly, my cards seem half of what they used to be No green borders on the flips I see Oh, yesterday came suddenly Why the flip had to go I don't know they wouldn't say Did I say something wrong, now I long for yesterday Yesterday, TPG was such an easy game to play I liked S G C, not P S A Oh, I believe in yesterday Why the flip had to change I don't know they wouldn't say Did I say something wrong, now I long for yesterday Yesterday, TPG was such an easy game to play I liked S G C, not P S A Oh, I believe in yesterday Mm mm mm mm mm mm mm |
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Have you seen the original flip? You couldn't print that at home? From what I understand the multiple SGC in the background isn't printed. It is a water mark (based on what Leon stated originally before posting the new flip). Since we couldn't see it in the scan it looks like they showed us what it essentially would look like when you can see it. I don't know what technology you have at home but the fact that you can print security water marks at home, but were unable to do a green border on a white box seems strange to me. |
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Agree with the majority...
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Nicely done McCartney! |
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I will give them some props for the red authentic label. I know some don't like it, but I think it helps someone presented with a stack or pile of cards to immediately sift out or hone in on the autographed cards. It draws the eye's attention, for sure.
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I agree but I would put a border around it also. |
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Ill go on record saying that I could care less what it looks like. As long as it doesn't look like a 5 year old did it. I only care what the card looks like.
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Hahaha I know. I was thinking the border would be red. |
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