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Republicaninmass 02-11-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1747064)
I realize they no longer offer the service but I remember when dominos pizza, I think, guaranteed delivery in 30 minutes or less. I’m guessing you would not be satisfied if that pizza came one month later?

Even when it came in 30 min or less, it tasted like it was a month old!

ullmandds 02-11-2018 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 1747065)
Even when it came in 30 min or less, it tasted like it was a month old!

haha...that was the old recipe!!!

rainier2004 02-11-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1747062)
You can't rightly charge people for expedited service, complete the service at a lower speed level and then claim "we don't guarantee anything" -- and not even refund the difference in price. Basically you're paying extra money with the hope that the cards get returned quicker. But you have zero guarantee. And they know this and still take the higher fees.

If any company was deserving of a class action suit, PSA is it.

Let do it...I agree.

Exhibitman 02-11-2018 09:59 AM

I haven't researched the law yet but it seems to me that if you continue to offer the public a service you know you cannot possibly fulfill, you are committing some kind of consumer fraud even if the fine print in your contract says you don't guarantee timing. I'd report the mess to the California Attorney General's office and see if they can investigate it.

The collapse of PSA's scheduling doesn't impact their on-site activity. They will be doing express grading at the Long Beach show on site in two weeks. I guess rustling up new $50+ fees is more important than clearing the backlog of existing customer orders.

rainier2004 02-11-2018 10:13 AM

So we all know Adam and Jeff are intelligent lawyers...and there isn't a thing I could argue with either.

Every time I have paid for a service in any other business and they were late, a representative for said business has apologized and attempted to make things rights offering a discount, future discount or something until I was satisfied which usually continues the business relationship as they were accountable.

But PSA...like Adam said, instead of working on the backlog they are just accepting more work. They cannot perform the function that people are paying for and know it but just act like its not their problem. I bet if everyone stopped sending in submissions for a month it would get their attention. I guess I just winder why anyone tolerates this? Their "standards" change and standards shouldn't change...that's why they are standards. They just grade vintage like shit compared to SGC who has their own problems. Us consumers do have a voice and every time you submit to them to use your voice and vote. We are smart enough as a community to fix this...PSA sucks.

S Suckow

calvindog 02-11-2018 10:36 AM

It's almost unfathomable that this is a public company. They really do need a high profile black eye to wake them up. I can't imagine their board members are aware of the garbage that is going on over there. Can you imagine if Boeing told their shareholders, "we can't get these plane orders fulfilled because we're really just getting slammed with so many orders." Heads would roll.

But CLCT just continues to take money in that they don't earn with the promise to deliver cards in approximately x number of days -- and rarely if ever delivers. And now they're accepting packages but not logging them in as accepted orders to start the clock on their promised time for grading, just to buy themselves more time. I'm telling you, a class action would be a slam dunk.

Leon 02-11-2018 11:05 AM

All of you guys are saying and asking questions and they all have one answer. MONEY

Why do collectors put up with it? MONEY (they feel they get more by using them)

Why does PSA keep doing it? MONEY (see top answer as to why)

It really is a circular question with the same answer each time. Ethics aside :), I actually don't blame them. This is a capitalist society and as long as they can do it and not get ensnared legally for doing it, why not?

Just playing a bit of devil's advocate here. BTW, I think we do have a lawyer or two on the board who have some experience in class action suits.

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ALR-bishop 02-11-2018 12:20 PM

Not to worry. They are aware of the problem and working on it :)

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...d-times#latest

frankbmd 02-11-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1747161)
Not to worry. They are aware of the problem and working on it :)

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...d-times#latest

Well, the discussion (?) has been closed after Joe's reassuring message.:eek:

In other words, "Shut up and stop complaining?"

calvindog 02-11-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1747166)
Well, the discussion (?) has been closed after Joe's reassuring message.:eek:

In other words, "Shut up and stop complaining?"

A federal class action lawsuit will get their attention and changes will be made. In addition, they will be coughing up all the money they dishonestly took from their customers.


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