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tiger8mush 01-28-2016 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1496733)
As someone mentioned, Ken Goldin is on the list as well as a few Net54 members.
names!!??!! :)

Stonepony 01-28-2016 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1496733)
only auctions from 2007-2009?? You don't think this happened long before and long after? In my mind, this list is very incomplete.

Also, do you think that all consignors that were identified knew that their consignments were being shilled? Some obviously knew, but I see a few folks on the list that appeared only a few times that may have had their lots shilled unknowingly (due to max bids by winning bidder, etc.). Is this possible?

As someone mentioned, Ken Goldin is on the list as well as a few Net54 members.
Huh?? Who shills other people's auctions??? Apparently this list is of persons who's lots were shilled, not by Mastro , but by the consignors or their conspirators. There is no one " unknowingly" being shilled. I hope the dominos fall fast and hard.

Joshchisox08 01-28-2016 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by xplainer (Post 1496712)
Is Probstein123 on the list?
Or does this cover auction houses?
Probstein123............. How about PWCC?

ullmandds 01-28-2016 09:12 AM
did u not read previous replies...this does not include ebay.

Joshchisox08 01-28-2016 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1496744)
did u not read previous replies...this does not include ebay.
I was replying to Jimmy.... Sorry your Majesty.

xplainer 01-28-2016 09:19 AM
I got you Josh.:D

ibuysportsephemera 01-28-2016 09:34 AM
Irony
 
It appears that some of the consignors who knowingly shilled their own auctions were actually shilled as buyers in other auction lots. If this is the case, there is a certain amount of irony as well as stupidity on their part.

Just my 2¢, but I wasn't surprised at the names of the biggest offenders.

The list also highlights how easy it is to be shilled in an online auction.

Jeff

packs 01-28-2016 09:47 AM
Would love to hear from some that appear on the list.

wolf441 01-28-2016 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 1496741)
Huh?? Who shills other people's auctions???
+1. Isn't that simply called "bidding"? :D

midmo 01-28-2016 09:51 AM
Isn't it possible for a consignor to be shilled unknowingly? If the auction house gets a percentage it's in their interest to raise all sale prices.


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