Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2015557)

For those intrigued by the late 60, early 70s, oddball and bootleg pennants...I found this picture pretty interesting.

1) I love finding lots of pennants from the same series/maker and it appears that is the case here. I recognize many Adflag designs. Are they all Adflag? The Astros, Expos, Royals, Padres appear to be similar to each other but not the others.

2) Many depict styles that are often attributed to earlier decades. This lot is clearly from the very late 60s or more likely early 70s. I know at least a few of these have felt counterparts and designs were often used over years so not really surprising. But is that the case here or are these copies/bootlegs? Hard to see for sure, but I don't see makers marks on any of them. The Mets for sure screams bootleg to me.

3) None have a MLB trademark. By the early 70s, were they mandatory? Was Adflag exempt from using one?

4) They are all monochrome which is a hint to Ad Flag, but Ad Flag started to produce multi colored pennants in the 1960s. Did they go back to monochrome or always continue to produce them?

5) If you're as interested in this as I am, raise your hand. :D

Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2016609)

Don Draper (Mad Men) is raising his hand

Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2016636)

Haha...That's good company. Just read the article. How'd you find it? I wonder if that pennant really dates to 1965?

Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2016585)

Holy smokes, Erik! Where on earth did you unearth all these vintage ads?

Well, you just made some pennant owner out there enormously happy because their ca. 1913 "BROOKLYN" travel/souvenir pennant is now proven beyond any doubt to be a baseball pennant.

They may owe you dinner :)

Originally Posted by erikc21 (Post 2016670)

It honestly was a fluke find. I stumbled across a guy who had a bunch of newspaper and magazine clippings, and I randomly found a pennant advertisement without even thinking to look for one (I like history). I told him if he had additional ones, I'd be interested. And he found some! I paid between $7-$15 per, but it was worth it to save the history and share with the Community. Although I half thought to secretly hoard the knowledge, collect all the pennants listed, then post my findings ;)

It would be cool to go to a Detroit library and look up 1913 Detroit Free Press publications (Sunday edition) on microfilm. Heck, maybe this stuff is all digital and online now? Greg and Marc, do you work for Universities and know how the average Joe can look into this sort of thing?

Originally Posted by erikc21 (Post 2016670)

It honestly was a fluke find. I stumbled across a guy who had a bunch of newspaper and magazine clippings, and I randomly found a pennant advertisement without even thinking to look for one (I like history). I told him if he had additional ones, I'd be interested. And he found some! I paid between $7-$15 per, but it was worth it to save the history and share with the Community. Although I half thought to secretly hoard the knowledge, collect all the pennants listed, then post my findings ;)

It would be cool to go to a Detroit library and look up 1913 Detroit Free Press publications (Sunday edition) on microfilm. Heck, maybe this stuff is all digital and online now? Greg and Marc, do you work for Universities and know how the average Joe can look into this sort of thing?

Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2016683)

Here's another...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1913-D...EAAOSw-oRepJq7

Reversed color scheme, but priced quite a bit higher.

This Detroit version definitely surfaces more than the others. Was hoping a few other teams would eventually turn up after the sale of the complete A.L. Set. But it's looking like the winning bidder wanted to keep the set in tact, rather than piece it out.