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Smanzari 04-07-2025 06:05 AM

Thanks Guys! I put that one in my cart in hopes they shoot me a deal, if not I'll snag it later today

ooo-ribay 04-07-2025 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by icollectDCsports (Post 2508203)
It’s quite a book with great photos. If I recall correctly, the pins included were all in the author’s collection.He included a price guide at the back of the book and I agree that the prices, at least for the more commonly available pins, are inflated.Overall, Paul Muchinsky’s book is fun and informative, depicting the author’s love for this niche of the hobby. It’s a must-own for any collector of baseball pinback buttons.

It may be true of all memorabilia, but I think pins are especially hard to “value”…

First, you’ll have the situation of multiple ebay bidders but with only two putting in big bids. Let’s say you had last minute snipes of $132, $475 and $500. The pin will sell for $480, but without either of the high bids, it would have gone for $133. Is it really “worth” $480? We’ve all experienced what I call “that one other guy” who either beats you or costs you a lot of money. And now, with the $500 bidder out of the way, the same pin might go for significantly less if it comes up again. There have definitely been times where, in hindsight, I was glad I lost out the first time around. Some of Paul’s inflated “values” may be due to the fact he regularly dueled with another big time pin collector.

Another factor, I think, affects pin value for a team collector like myself. I often joke with my fellow Giants collectors that “after you, me and he gets one,” these pins go for peanuts. That is, after we fight among ourselves, there’s no one for the next bidder to fight with. I know a newer Giants team collector who is frustrated some pins I have are now hard to find but if he does find them he usually gets them for less than what I paid (not always).

PM-10’s may be easier to value than “team” pins but, again, I almost think their value actually goes down as the collectors who want them, get them. To me, only the super rare, “seen once every 10 years” pins can really be assigned a value. Am I making any sense?

edtiques 04-07-2025 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2508248)
Thanks Guys! I put that one in my cart in hopes they shoot me a deal, if not I'll snag it later today

If you're interested, you can also ask him if he has a copy of the Munchisky book available. He thinks he may have a copy or 2 left.

Vintagedeputy 04-07-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2508251)
It may be true of all memorabilia, but I think pins are especially hard to “value”…

First, you’ll have the situation of multiple ebay bidders but with only two putting in big bids. Let’s say you had last minute snipes of $132, $475 and $500. The pin will sell for $480, but without either of the high bids, it would have gone for $133. Is it really “worth” $480? We’ve all experienced what I call “that one other guy” who either beats you or costs you a lot of money. And now, with the $500 bidder out of the way, the same pin might go for significantly less if it comes up again. There have definitely been times where, in hindsight, I was glad I lost out the first time around. Some of Paul’s inflated “values” may be due to the fact he regularly dueled with another big time pin collector.

Another factor, I think, affects pin value for a team collector like myself. I often joke with my fellow Giants collectors that “after you, me and he gets one,” these pins go for peanuts. That is, after we fight among ourselves, there’s no one for the next bidder to fight with. I know a newer Giants team collector who is frustrated some pins I have are now hard to find but if he does find them he usually gets them for less than what I paid (not always).

PM-10’s may be easier to value than “team” pins but, again, I almost think their value actually goes down as the collectors who want them, get them. To me, only the super rare, “seen once every 10 years” pins can really be assigned a value. Am I making any sense?

I tend to follow a very simple rule about valuing collectibles. I don’t pay much attention to eBay sold prices or “comps”. What a buyer and seller sold a particular item for yesterday, last week, last month is irrelevant to me. That’s them. I’m me. There really can’t be a price guide for collectibles in my mind. I may ask a fellow collector what they might value something at, but the ultimate decision to buy or sell at a particular price is mine.

Example: You have a Mantle signed ball that want to buy. Would you sell it for $1? No. $100? Probably not. $1,000? Well, now I’ve probably got your attention. So $1,000 is the ceiling. I ask, would you take $200?
You: $900?
Me: $300?
You: $800?

And so, we dance.

Sometimes, I pay over “comps” because I see something that I must own. Sometimes, I offer less than comps because that’s what I value it at.

icollectDCsports 04-07-2025 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2508251)
It may be true of all memorabilia, but I think pins are especially hard to “value”…

First, you’ll have the situation of multiple ebay bidders but with only two putting in big bids. Let’s say you had last minute snipes of $132, $475 and $500. The pin will sell for $480, but without either of the high bids, it would have gone for $133. Is it really “worth” $480? We’ve all experienced what I call “that one other guy” who either beats you or costs you a lot of money. And now, with the $500 bidder out of the way, the same pin might go for significantly less if it comes up again. There have definitely been times where, in hindsight, I was glad I lost out the first time around. Some of Paul’s inflated “values” may be due to the fact he regularly dueled with another big time pin collector.

Another factor, I think, affects pin value for a team collector like myself. I often joke with my fellow Giants collectors that “after you, me and he gets one,” these pins go for peanuts. That is, after we fight among ourselves, there’s no one for the next bidder to fight with. I know a newer Giants team collector who is frustrated some pins I have are now hard to find but if he does find them he usually gets them for less than what I paid (not always).

PM-10’s may be easier to value than “team” pins but, again, I almost think their value actually goes down as the collectors who want them, get them. To me, only the super rare, “seen once every 10 years” pins can really be assigned a value. Am I making any sense?

I agree with you, and have experienced the “one other guy” scenario. Like you, there are times I was a disappointed under bidder only to be glad later to get the same type of item for a lot less because the “other guy” wasn’t bidding this time. In such scenarios, applying the concept of current market value is complicated. But the point in my post is really directed to much more commonly available pins, of which there are often multiples selling on eBay for less, sometimes quite a bit, than the listed value. It’s not a big deal to me but I point this out for newer pin collectors.

Hankphenom 04-07-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2508332)
I tend to follow a very simple rule about valuing collectibles. I don’t pay much attention to eBay sold prices or “comps”. What a buyer and seller sold a particular item for yesterday, last week, last month is irrelevant to me. That’s them. I’m me. There really can’t be a price guide for collectibles in my mind. I may ask a fellow collector what they might value something at, but the ultimate decision to buy or sell at a particular price is mine. Sometimes, I pay over “comps” because I see something that I must own. Sometimes, I offer less than comps because that’s what I value it at.

+1

edtiques 04-11-2025 08:13 PM

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Just picked this up...

edtiques 05-06-2025 05:26 PM

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Just picked this up..

ruth-gehrig 05-12-2025 08:20 PM

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Maris x3
Photo was taken at an angle so it appears each pin is progressively smaller lol

Vintagedeputy 05-16-2025 07:08 AM

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Saw this at an antiques show and the vendor wanted $200 !!!!

Vintagedeputy 05-31-2025 08:47 PM

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Ever buy a group of pinback buttons just to get one?

Vintagedeputy 06-04-2025 11:32 AM

Haven’t seen much activity on this thread lately other than what I’ve posted. Everyone still collecting pinback buttons?

bocca001 06-04-2025 01:01 PM

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Based on the prices of things I try to buy, it is clear that people are still collecting pinbacks. Although they have no interest in any I'm trying to sell.

andypcl 06-05-2025 01:24 PM

1958 Tommy Davis
 
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This one wasn't in the Muchinsky guide or any other reference that I had, so was shocked to find it on Etsy, of all places.

edtiques 06-07-2025 06:08 PM

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Just picked this up...

Peter_Spaeth 06-07-2025 08:40 PM

1954 Grape Nuts Mantle
 
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Can anyone tell me how the hobby knows this is a 1954 Grape Nuts issue and is there a printed reference guide that lists this button?


Asking for a friend. Thanks.

ooo-ribay 06-08-2025 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2520675)
Can anyone tell me how the hobby knows this is a 1954 Grape Nuts issue and is there a printed reference guide that lists this button?


Asking for a friend. Thanks.

I have never seen that pin or been aware of that set. I found this old reference that mentions the pin but doesn’t really answer your question. If there is a checklist, I would love to see it. Might there be a Mays pin?

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/c...mantle-buttons

edtiques 06-12-2025 07:15 PM

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Just got this...

icollectDCsports 06-12-2025 08:45 PM

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Just got this...

Love that one!

Vintagedeputy 06-13-2025 11:27 AM

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Just got this...

Never seen that one before. Neat!


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