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YankeeHotelFoxtrot 04-19-2021 01:55 PM

I just had an Enos Slaughter returned from SGC as a fake :(

I was sad about it. Got it at my local card store for like 10 bucks so was worth the chance

butchie_t 04-19-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeHotelFoxtrot (Post 2094553)
I just had an Enos Slaughter returned from SGC as a fake :(

I was sad about it. Got it at my local card store for like 10 bucks so was worth the chance

Square or round corners?

abctoo 04-25-2021 08:19 PM

Festberg Scans provided Member butchie_t
 
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Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2089860)
I do not remember the exact date but I know I received mine between 90-92. I was a contractor stationed in Thule Greenland AFB and had subscribed to the monthly card subscriptions.

I still have that exact “set” in the holders that they sent them to me in, along with their identifier.

I’d be happy to post pictures but this thread is somewhat dated. I came here years ago while looking for additional info on them. I finally got off my butt and registered this passed weekend.

Cheers,

Butch

Member "butchie_t" sent me a CD-Rom with high resolution scans of the front and back of all 24 Festberg remainders, plus the tag the Baseball Card Society sent with them in December 1989. I'm working on sizing them to post here on net54baseball.

We all - much thanks to our new member.

Mike

UKCardGuy 04-26-2021 01:06 PM

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Thanks for this thread.

I recently picked up a lot of 7 "1947 Bond Bread cards" fairly cheaply. (I also got a couple of 1948 Kelloggs Pep cards with the lot).

Based on this thread, I think only my Sheldon Jones is a true Bond Bread with the others being Sports Star Subjects.

Exhibitman 04-26-2021 02:38 PM

Seems about right.

abctoo 05-31-2021 02:55 AM

The so-called "Bond Bread Perforated Cards" are not Bond Bread
 
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Originally Posted by wastewater (Post 728644)
See attached for some movie stars. I thought the back was interesting as I hadn't seen the 46 cards mentioned before like this. The Hess reference looks to be a stamp added after printing.

Posted in this thread, Post #48, 06-08-2009, 05:22 pm

https://i.imgur.com/G6QfFzh.jpg?3

ELGEE is Louis Greenberg & Son, Inc.. The company originally incorporated in New York in 1929. It wholesaled sundry products to specialty and variety stores ("dime" stores), often labeling them as “AN ELGEE PRODUCT,” as it did the card set often misdescribed as "Bond Bread Perforated Cards." In 1964, it trademarked a special logo containing its initials, “LGS.”

https://i.imgur.com/QgAAvNx.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/nmChlHu.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/JCz2Ffv.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/5QgPWHD.jpg?1

One of their very popular products was "ELGEE MINIATURES," similar in boxing to "Matchbox" vehicles but made in cheaper plastic.

https://i.imgur.com/UMxVQhE.jpg?1

Each of the two sheets in the set had 24 cards, that's 48 sides. Since two adjoining cards had half of the set description shown above on back, only 46 sides contained "assorted subjects" of Sports, Hollywood or Cowboys. Thus, the indication of "46 subjects" shown on each sheet. With two sheets being made, that a total of 92 sides of cards with pictures of subjects plus 4 sides with set description for a total of 96 sides, or 48 cards. Here's a well known example of one of the descriptive backs with a cowboy on the other side.

https://i.imgur.com/PodD9UR.jpg?1

The picture appears to be that of Randolph Scott in "The Desparadoes" (1943).

[Added June 1, 2021] Louis Greenberg & Son imported products in bulk and printed and manufactured their own packaging for both foreign and domestically produced products. They had the capabilities to print their perforated "Sports, Hollywood, Cowboys" set.

If anyone has an Elgee Product list , price sheet or invoice from any time period; it may help identify their numbering system, other card sets they made have issued, as well as provide a guide to dating. Thank you.

Copyright 2021 by Michael Fried, P.O. Box 27521, Oakland, California 94602-0521

Schlesinj 06-15-2021 07:18 AM

I am sure this is a dumb question, but when looking at SGC Pop report when you look up 1947 Bond Bread, which sub-category is the rounded corner listed as or is it just listed without a sub-category? I am assuming it is the version with 55 listed.

https://www.gosgc.com/pop-report/res...Bread/Baseball

abctoo 06-16-2021 06:23 AM

Good Question. I just checked the PSA website for an answer. I could no longer find in either PSA's population report nor its price guide a Bond Bread set with 55 graded cards (or 57 cards as I seem to remember). They now list only the "1947 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson" 13-card set with 333 cards graded and a set they call the "1947 Bond Bread Perforated Dual Sided." The perforated set is the ELGEE set produced by Louis Greenberg and Son discussed above and has nothing to do with Bond Bread. What has PSA now done with the regular 48 card sports set that Bond Bread inserted into bread packages?

itjclarke 06-16-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by abctoo (Post 2114213)
Good Question. I just checked the PSA website for an answer. I could no longer find in either PSA's population report nor its price guide a Bond Bread set with 55 graded cards (or 57 cards as I seem to remember). They now list only the "1947 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson" 13-card set with 333 cards graded and a set they call the "1947 Bond Bread Perforated Dual Sided." The perforated set is the ELGEE set produced by Louis Greenberg and Son discussed above and has nothing to do with Bond Bread. What has PSA now done with the regular 48 card sports set that Bond Bread inserted into bread packages?

I don't think PSA has been grading these for years.

Schlesinj 06-16-2021 09:57 PM

Actually, I believe it was listed as Portrait with a population of 44.


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