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thetahat 08-17-2020 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2009210)
Greg: Was that image of the Phillie runner sliding into home, with "Phillies" + horizontal bat beneath a graphic developed and used by the team; or was this developed by the pennant maker? I was always under the impression this was an official Phillies logo that the pennant maker was copying....

But, the fact that the same artwork was used for this Yankees pennant suggests otherwise, doesn't it?

Interesting question. As you likely know there was a time in the 1940s when the Phillies considered a name change, but did it in a weird way. Tried to gradually turn it over to Blue Jays. So for pennants, scorecards, even uniforms, the jay graphic began to appear. It never fully took so the plug was pulled in 1949. This is when “Fightin Phillies” took root. It seems the phrase had already been used as far back as ‘46 but my guess is that it took off when the blue jay was buried. The team used the script and bat part of the design as if it was an official logo, here are some scorecards that display it, one from 1949 and the other from 1951. (I don’t collect scorecards, these were images I found.)

I can’t say that I’ve ever seen the catcher/runner graphic anywhere else but on pennants. And there’s a good reason for that ... the team never really had a nice logo until the “fat P” was introduced in 1970. (My personal favorite were Phil and Phyllis from the bicentennial season.) They probably had nothing else to use! Eventually they moved to that dull graphic of a Phillies cap with stars orbiting it.

As for these scorecards ... recognize anything else?

ser1979 08-17-2020 10:12 AM

So I recently moved and decided to start taking photos of all my pennants to catalog them. I see a lot of members post links to their pennants and was wondering how to go about doing that. I'd like to be able to share my collection with the group. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Fballguy 08-17-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2009300)
So I recently moved and decided to start taking photos of all my pennants to catalog them. I see a lot of members post links to their pennants and was wondering how to go about doing that. I'd like to be able to share my collection with the group. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Go to google and click that checker board in the upper right corner. A menu of icons will appear...find and click "photos". A screen like the one attached here will appear. Click "albums", then "create album" and you will be prompted to upload pics. Easy as 1, 2, 3.

Duluth Eskimo 08-17-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2008805)
From ebay...is this legit? I've never seen a pennant like it.

Rob,
I would like to see this closer as it does look like the graphics are in extraordinarily great shape compared to the tip. This particular pennant was made of “the most” fragile felt I have ever dealt with and it is very prone to pulling away at the tip like this one shows. Like Erik showed on his example, usually the graphics are a little stressed and not so bright. I currently have one like this for sale and although I wouldn’t call it rare, it is tough to find in great shape. Unless it can be had cheap, probably worth steering clear from.

ooo-ribay 08-17-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2009300)
So I recently moved and decided to start taking photos of all my pennants to catalog them. I see a lot of members post links to their pennants and was wondering how to go about doing that. I'd like to be able to share my collection with the group. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

As “the other Rob” said, it’s super easy....drag and drop....once you have them all in album, you can drag to rearrange if you wish.

bocca001 08-17-2020 02:46 PM

Agree that google photos is pretty easy once you get going. Looking forward to seeing your pennant photo album(s).

thetahat 08-17-2020 05:16 PM

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I’m probably the only person on Earth who cares about this but here are two cloth ASCO pennants with a 1970 MLB trademark.

Interesting how the ‘69s are much more common and the only date trademarked NFLs are from ‘67.

Domer05 08-17-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2009229)
Interesting question. As you likely know there was a time in the 1940s when the Phillies considered a name change, but did it in a weird way. Tried to gradually turn it over to Blue Jays. So for pennants, scorecards, even uniforms, the jay graphic began to appear. It never fully took so the plug was pulled in 1949. This is when “Fightin Phillies” took root. It seems the phrase had already been used as far back as ‘46 but my guess is that it took off when the blue jay was buried. The team used the script and bat part of the design as if it was an official logo, here are some scorecards that display it, one from 1949 and the other from 1951. (I don’t collect scorecards, these were images I found.)

I can’t say that I’ve ever seen the catcher/runner graphic anywhere else but on pennants. And there’s a good reason for that ... the team never really had a nice logo until the “fat P” was introduced in 1970. (My personal favorite were Phil and Phyllis from the bicentennial season.) They probably had nothing else to use! Eventually they moved to that dull graphic of a Phillies cap with stars orbiting it.

As for these scorecards ... recognize anything else?

AH-HA! That image of the Phillie leaning on his bat ... that was used (stolen?) by Keezer for use on one of their two known Phillies pennants.

doug.goodman 08-17-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2009229)
Interesting question. As you likely know there was a time in the 1940s when the Phillies considered a name change, but did it in a weird way. Tried to gradually turn it over to Blue Jays. So for pennants, scorecards, even uniforms, the jay graphic began to appear. It never fully took so the plug was pulled in 1949. This is when “Fightin Phillies” took root. It seems the phrase had already been used as far back as ‘46 but my guess is that it took off when the blue jay was buried. The team used the script and bat part of the design as if it was an official logo, here are some scorecards that display it, one from 1949 and the other from 1951. (I don’t collect scorecards, these were images I found.)

If we use scorecards as a guide, they were using a Blue Jay in at least 1945 and 1947 (see scans), and they became the "Fightin' Phillies" for 1948.

Fballguy 08-18-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2009435)
I’m probably the only person on Earth who cares about this but here are two cloth ASCO pennants with a 1970 MLB trademark.

Interesting how the ‘69s are much more common and the only date trademarked NFLs are from ‘67.

Believe it or not...this stuff fascinates me too. I'd love a guide that showed the dates and chronological order of the various league trademarks. Anyone ever see one?


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