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perezfan 06-01-2020 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1986277)
Just saw a home movie clip of a ‘54 Indians parade, presumably before the WS. Rare shot of the “teepee” pennant ...

Maybe that one was made especially for the Parade, or perhaps just for the Players?

Can't think of a better reason to explain the insane scarcity. Might be the only pennant of which I'd buy a repro version (just to have one).

thetahat 06-01-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1986474)
I think I had read that the earliest known one is a Knickerbockers Pennant. I forget all of the pertinent details, but there was a discussion about it here on net54 about 12-14 years ago.

If you are really good with the search function, you might find it. There was a pretty lengthy ongoing Pennant thread until this one displaced it. The info is probably contained somewhere within that other pennant thread (if you have the patience and desire to search for it).

I think I found the thread but the pics are gone ...

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=67606

thetahat 06-01-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1986477)
Maybe that one was made especially for the Parade or just for the Players?

Can't think of a better reason to explain the insane scarcity. Might be the only pennant of which I'd buy a repro version (just to have one).

Yeah I’m not sure ... speaking of which I’ll have a ‘48 indians pennant to show in a few days ... they sure made a bunch of different 48s and 54s ...

thetahat 06-01-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1986465)
Just curious...Does anyone know what the oldest baseball pennant known to exist is? Anyone here have it?

If the question is: what is the oldest *series* of pennants ... maybe it’s these. My rudimentary research puts the creation of silk screening around 1911-13. These pennants have sewn on letters, and reinforced edges. Most unique is the leather batter graphic. I have seen four teams: Cubs, White Sox, Red Sox, and Tigers. The Tigers is the best of the lot because it has a leather tiger head instead of the batter. I think Mark has it? Also I’ve seen the Cubs pennant with opposite colors as the one pictured. ... I have the Cubs and Sox, strangely the Sox is a little smaller yet still oversized. Couldn’t have been trimmed because of the way the edges were made.

Also I can think of those “B.B.C.” pennants as one of the oldest series.

Fballguy 06-01-2020 09:23 PM

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Interesting read about the Knickerbockers pennant. Is this it?

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perezfan 06-01-2020 10:27 PM

That's it... Boy, you guys are good!!

Fballguy 06-02-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1986520)
That's it... Boy, you guys are good!!

I don't know man...I'd need some photo provenance to kick it up a little. It's not much to look at.

perezfan 06-02-2020 10:29 AM

Pretty sure the one pictured is the reproduced version.

Obviously it's more about the age, history, story, importance and rarity than the aesthetics. I'd probably clear a spot on the wall for it. :rolleyes:

Fballguy 06-02-2020 01:50 PM

It's funny. The question was asked about the origin of the term "Pennant race" and the explanation was that the pennant was the traditional sign of a war ship and to capture a pennant would mean you were the victor. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Knickerbocker pennant was that it looked like a nautical flag.

thetahat 06-03-2020 04:10 AM

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Big props to Domer and his research. The one “set” that I don’t think gets enough appreciation is the 1969 cloth set with the unique MLB trademark. Reading through his blog I see that these are ASCO. The little ASCO Mark is missing on the cloth set but in a few years to follow these were made in felt and even the awful stiff material with the mark. I’m trying to complete the cloth set, in this pic are some of them, many but not all are cloth, there’s a Brewers pennant in there, and a Trench Pilots, and yeah that’s an Oscar Gamble poster because he was super cool.


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