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ezez420 01-29-2016 11:54 AM
Na

conor912 01-29-2016 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 1496926)
>25k
In the first 24 hours, that is.

Brian Van Horn 01-29-2016 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1497304)
Who's keeping a tally:

Peter Calderon from Heritage
PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators
Dave Forman - Owner of SGC
Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs
Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions
TJ Schwartz of SCD
Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities
other Net54 Members (you know who you are)

Events leading up to "the list"...

REA president retires;
SGC moves to Florida;
Leon sells collection

Okay, the first and last ones are probably a stretch...just sayin'
Add that Goldin acquired Legendary's intellectual property including Legendary's mailing list.

RichardSimon 01-29-2016 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 1497245)
If Peter Calderon for example shill bidded, does that mean Heritage Auctions shill bids in their auctions?
Heaven forbid.
I would think that an auction house that bars me from bidding, and from their website, for having my autograph opinions quoted in Nash's HOS (they said I worked for him, did not know giving opinions would be called working) would not also be a shill bidder.
fyi - I never bid with them on anything.

packs 01-29-2016 12:19 PM
Is the only tactic available to bidders to counter act this stuff placing straight bids only?

1952boyntoncollector 01-29-2016 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ezez420 (Post 1497332)
Wow. This quote was when this happened to me on a Pop 2 card with me owning 1. I can only guess who owns/owned the 2nd. Wow you couldnt have said it better. A very high profile card for that matter besides.
so my comments have been useful to the net54 community I take it...yeah others like to say I rattle on....

jefferyepayne 01-29-2016 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1496700)
I have not won an item from Goldin auctions, but was watching stuff in the current auction. Does anyone think that his name being on the list will have negative results this weekend?
It should! I would demand an explanation before bidding further. In fact, I don't plan to purchase / bid in any auction affiliated with those on the shill list until the person involved comes on net54 to explain their actions.

As I've said in other threads before, the only way to clean up this hobby is for people to STOP SUPPORTING those who are dirty. Otherwise you only have yourself to blame for future abuse.

Jeff Payne

slidekellyslide 01-29-2016 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1497339)
Heaven forbid.
I would think that an auction house that bars me from bidding, and from their website, for having my autograph opinions quoted in Nash's HOS (they said I worked for him, did not know giving opinions would be called working) would not also be a shill bidder.
Heritage has a Hall of Fame Library thief working for them...doubt they even care about this.

ullmandds 01-29-2016 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ezez420
Wow. This quote was when this happened to me on a Pop 2 card with me owning 1. I can only guess who owns/owned the 2nd. Wow you couldnt have said it better. A very high profile card for that matter besides.
so my comments have been useful to the net54 community I take it...yeah others like to say I rattle on....


well...atleast that 1 comment...to that 1 person!:)

howard38 01-29-2016 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowman5520 (Post 1497217)
You know what is most infuriating about this mess?! Last spring I taught a card collecting class to my students. Many members on here donated cards/supplies to us and they LOVED it. It was collecting in its purest form and was great to see. I know there are thousands of honest collectors out there and I will convey that to these kids......but I do have a few questions:

How am I supposed to explain to them what this group of lying, cheating, SCUMBAGS managed to do to the hobby? I don't care if you are a member of this board or not......how am I supposed to explain to these kids that a bunch of greedy adults took one of the most wonderful hobbies in the world and turned it into something VILE and DISGUSTING?!
There probably isn't any reason to explain it to them. This barely made a peep in the mainstream media so unless the kids are following a forum like net54 they probably haven't heard about it.


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