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doug.goodman 04-27-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1975330)
Okay I’ll start out with Brooklyn Dodgers pennants .... there are some duplicates and triplicates, mainly because I need my head examined. But each pic is a distinct pennant, look close to observe differences in condition, etc. This doesn’t include WS pennants that mention two teams. Hopefully this works, Google Photos is very easy to use!

This was something I’ve been meaning to do for awhile, since at some point I gotta sell these darn things. One day I might just unload ‘em and just keep and display Phillies and A’s.

I’ll add that most (not all) of the pennants have the tassels tucked behind, one or two might have them missing.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nbM6Jp6wGDqPs6wDA

Always looking for more!

Nice!

Looking at your pictures makes me think about how much easier my life would be (in regards to pictures) if I didn't use a blackberry. The pictures suck, that's why I had to do multiple scan all my pennants and then pieced the scans together. Oh well.

ooo-ribay 04-27-2020 05:16 PM

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I'm not a fan of the 3/4 size pennants but this one had good color; says "New York" rather than the more common "N.Y." and the price was right.

Questions: what was the heyday of 3/4 pennants? 30s-40s? Was there ever a time when the 3/4 was the most prevalent size? Same questions for oversized...heyday? were they ever the most common size?

ooo-ribay 04-27-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1975330)
Okay I’ll start out with Brooklyn Dodgers pennants .... there are some duplicates and triplicates, mainly because I need my head examined. But each pic is a distinct pennant, look close to observe differences in condition, etc. This doesn’t include WS pennants that mention two teams. Hopefully this works, Google Photos is very easy to use!

This was something I’ve been meaning to do for awhile, since at some point I gotta sell these darn things. One day I might just unload ‘em and just keep and display Phillies and A’s.

I’ll add that most (not all) of the pennants have the tassels tucked behind, one or two might have them missing.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nbM6Jp6wGDqPs6wDA

Always looking for more!

Wow! :eek:

perezfan 04-27-2020 06:22 PM

Wow, just phenomenal, Greg...

What a Brooklyn Dodgers Collection... it's got to be among the best in the world! How on earth do you decide which ones make it on to the wall? That choice would drive me nuts.... so many beauties and color variations. :eek:

Great photography as well.... looks like a professional gallery. Can't wait to see some other teams!

thetahat 04-27-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1975385)
Wow, just phenomenal, Greg...

What a Brooklyn Dodgers Collection... it's got to be among the best in the world! How on earth do you decide which ones make it on to the wall? That choice would drive me nuts.... so many beauties and color variations. :eek:

Great photography as well.... looks like a professional gallery. Can't wait to see some other teams!

Thanks everyone!

thetahat 04-27-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1975370)
I'm not a fan of the 3/4 size pennants but this one had good color; says "New York" rather than the more common "N.Y." and the price was right.

Questions: what was the heyday of 3/4 pennants? 30s-40s? Was there ever a time when the 3/4 was the most prevalent size? Same questions for oversized...heyday? were they ever the most common size?

I think in the 30s, yes. I just saw a clip on Twitter, from Flagstaff Films ( a great follow), they post clips of old home movies at the ballpark. Today they put up a clip from the ‘36 series and briefly caught a glimpse of a vendor walking the aisles with pennants of this style.

perezfan 04-27-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1975370)
I'm not a fan of the 3/4 size pennants but this one had good color; says "New York" rather than the more common "N.Y." and the price was right.

Questions: what was the heyday of 3/4 pennants? 30s-40s? Was there ever a time when the 3/4 was the most prevalent size? Same questions for oversized...heyday? were they ever the most common size?

That's a beauty, Rob... I looked at it long and hard on eBay, and almost pulled the trigger. I'd have bought it at first sight a few years back, when my available funds were more conducive to collecting. You got a good buy, as it's a rare variation with beautiful colors and superb condition.

I'll take a stab at your questions regarding size (which does matter, haha). Here is how I see it after many years of doing this nonsense...

Teens- Predominantly oversized pennants, ranging in size from 32" to 36" in length. Full size and 3/4 size did exist back then, but in very limited quantities.

1920s- Perhaps the only era in which 3/4 size was the norm. It is pretty rare to find standard full-sized pennants from this decade, and the oversized pennants seemed to vanish in the late teens.

1930s- Let's call it full-size, but in this decade, a full sized pennant was typically slightly smaller than it is today. Full sized 1930s pennants were significantly larger than 3/4 pennants, but a bit smaller than what we later see from Trench, AdFlag, etc. 3/4 size pennants were readily available, but I'd estimate it skews about 65/35% in favor of full size in the 1930s.

1940s- Most full size pennants of the 1940s are still slightly smaller than what's seen today. They continued to become a bit more prevalent in the 1940s... perhaps by now, it's an 75/25 split between Full and 3/4 size.

1950s- Full size pennants finally reach the true large size we think of today. 3/4 size pennants remain popular as well... especially in the New York Market. The Yankees, Dodgers and Giants in particular all produced a ton of 3/4 size pennants during this era. Rob's pennant above is just one of many examples. I'd guess the split was about 70/30 in favor of full-size in the 50s.

1960s- Full size becomes by far the predominant size of the 1960s. 3/4 size is still somewhat popular into the early 60s, but becomes all but extinct by the end of the decade.

1970s - This is when it's game over for me. Everything is now full sized, but as mass production takes over, the felt becomes stiff as a board, and creativity and artistry are all but gone. Outside of a few interesting All Star Game and WS Pennants early in the decade, there is not much interesting in the way of graphics. The team logos adopt a simplified and "corporate" look, and the magic finally disappears.

So it's a sad ending, but that's what makes the hunting and collecting so much fun. If it was easy and if there was no challenge, it would all be rather pointless. Eager to hear what others think, as I could be way off base! :o

rlevy 04-27-2020 07:11 PM

Greg, thanks for posting these, and thanks especially for starting with Dem Bums. Obviously that is a collection amassed over a long time with a curator's eye. I've been looking for a nice 1955 Scroll NL Champs with the bum for a while, and since you already have 3, is it safe to assume you won't be bidding against me if one pops up in a auction? Or is 4 a possibility?

Rick

ooo-ribay 04-27-2020 09:14 PM

Thanks for the great rundown on pennant sizing, Mark! Just the kind of info I was looking for.h

thetahat 04-27-2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rlevy (Post 1975397)
Greg, thanks for posting these, and thanks especially for starting with Dem Bums. Obviously that is a collection amassed over a long time with a curator's eye. I've been looking for a nice 1955 Scroll NL Champs with the bum for a while, and since you already have 3, is it safe to assume you won't be bidding against me if one pops up in a auction? Or is 4 a possibility?

Rick

Rick ... haha ... no I think I’m done with the ‘55 scroll and should put one or two of mine up for auction one of these days. I am looking for one that lists them as “World and NL Champs” though .... it’s just a different variation.

Thanks for your comments!


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