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bobbyw8469 01-29-2016 10:49 AM

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There isn't one person on any of these boards that would have withstood the hazing I took and never once complained or went to the mods. I obviously have a set. Thank you very much.]
Uhmmmm.....you don't have the lock in that department Davey boy! Trust me. There was someone before you that was hazed and never went to the mods.

h2oya311 01-29-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1497233)
I'm shocked that Dave Forman's lawyer hasn't made a comment yet.

Good one!

h2oya311 01-29-2016 10:53 AM

Who's keeping a tally:

Peter Calderon from Heritage
PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators
Dave Forman - Owner of SGC
Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs
Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions
TJ Schwartz of SCD
Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities
other Net54 Members (you know who you are)

Events leading up to "the list"...

REA president retires;
SGC moves to Florida;
Leon sells collection

Okay, the first and last ones are probably a stretch...just sayin'

1952boyntoncollector 01-29-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1497304)
Who's keeping a tally:

Peter Calderon from Heritage
PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators
Dave Forman - Owner of SGC
Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs
Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions
TJ Schwartz of SCD
Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities
other Net54 Members (you know who you are)

Events leading up to "the list"...

REA president retires;
SGC moves to Florida;
Leon sells collection

Okay, the first and last ones are probably a stretch...just sayin'


I really see it as a conflict of interest for a grader to grade a card if that grader owns the same type of card and grade..

if POP is 1 on a card at a SGC 8 and carries a $1000+ price...I wouldn't want to see another of those cards achieve a SGC 8 for example which would double the POP and lower the value of my own card...

Econteachert205 01-29-2016 11:16 AM

I do not think it will effect clct collectors universe stock. It will not impact the core business of submissions or the registry. SGC is a different story. Anyone on the fence about which grader to use will move away from them. Maybe a small boost for beckett. The real losers will be the individual auctions involved and already mentioned.

rsdill2 01-29-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1497304)
Who's keeping a tally:

Peter Calderon from Heritage
PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators
Dave Forman - Owner of SGC
Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs
Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions
TJ Schwartz of SCD
Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities
other Net54 Members (you know who you are)

Events leading up to "the list"...

REA president retires;
SGC moves to Florida;
Leon sells collection

Okay, the first and last ones are probably a stretch...just sayin'

I don't know who he is but John Reznikoff is listed on SGC webpage under the "our staff" section with his expertise listed as "historical & political"

He's all over the document listed as both a consignor and shiller

Peter_Spaeth 01-29-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rsdill2 (Post 1497317)
I don't know who he is but John Reznikoff is listed on SGC webpage under the "our staff" section with his expertise listed as "historical & political"

He's all over the document listed as both a consignor and shiller

He is also a PSA expert.
http://www.psacard.com/Experts/

If you google him you will see he has had some controversy/mistaken authentications.

The Nasty Nati 01-29-2016 11:33 AM

Wow this could really hurt SGC. I'm a big fan of theirs but yikes.

chaddurbin 01-29-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati (Post 1497322)
Wow this could really hurt SGC. I'm a big fan of theirs but yikes.

i fail to see how this will hurt sgc. you mean after reading this you're gonna send the n167 to psa or beckett instead of sgc? i wonder if mastro will give me an auction credit for the $506 i was shilled out of? too bad we don't have the whole history.

anyone remember wesley liu? he was shilled on only a few lots but the loss % is huge compared to the final prices.

Bpm0014 01-29-2016 11:49 AM

Peter, Greg...it's not an easy thing to do to admit that you were wrong and messed up. I don't know either one of you, but I appreciate you guys coming forward and at least explaining your side of the story. Would have been very easy to just lay low.


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