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strike-in 12-29-2022 01:29 PM

86 Topp Cal Ripken blank and
 
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strike-in 12-29-2022 01:41 PM

90 Topps double double puckett, johnson, santiago, franco, maddux others
 
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Tedwilliams1918 01-01-2023 06:51 PM

Cliff I found this
 
Lots of faint missing black, it’s not enough for me to care or count it as special, is it in the same spot on the sheet as mantle & company?

Tedwilliams1918 01-02-2023 08:38 PM

Cliff I added those wonderful cards you gave me
https://wordpress.com/post/vintageba...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

butchie_t 01-05-2023 03:06 PM

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I added the three Bob's today to my 72 set. I am getting to the point where I will need two binders for my 72 set. With all the variations and variations of variations, I am thinking this set will never be considered done as it pertains to a master set. I'm good......

Cheers

B.T.

ALR-bishop 01-05-2023 03:24 PM

Tim McCarver, who joined the Cardinals in the same time frame as Gibson but was a little behind him in starting, told a story about going to the mound in 1963 after Gibson had walked a couple of batters and seemed agitated to "calm him down". Before he could say anything Gibson told him, "McCarver, get your ass back behind the plate. The only thing you know about good pitching is that you can't hit it"

butchie_t 01-05-2023 03:30 PM

Bob Gibson was a seriously imposing figure when he took the mound. I loved watching him in 68 World Series. When the mounds were higher than they are now, he just looked un-hitable to this 8 year old kid at the time.

Tedwilliams1918 01-06-2023 01:39 PM

1958 pee wee reese
 
It’s not as drastic as mantle or enos…..but it is very spotty everywhere it’s definitely not wear

ALR-bishop 01-06-2023 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2300334)
Cliff I added those wonderful cards you gave me
https://wordpress.com/post/vintageba...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

Cliff is one of the hobby good guys

Cliff Bowman 01-06-2023 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2299975)
Lots of faint missing black, it’s not enough for me to care or count it as special, is it in the same spot on the sheet as mantle & company?

I'm guessing the 1958 Topps #375 Pee Wee Reese you are referring to is similar to this one. It's not related to all of the others which are numbered between 130-198, Reese is from a later series sheet being numbered 375.

Tedwilliams1918 01-07-2023 07:48 AM

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How can 1962 willow mays have two different cut lines on the bottom??….cliff have you ever lined willie up with everyone else to see if others have the same lines??

G1911 01-07-2023 09:18 AM

The varying cut lines exist on, I think, every card in most of the series. 62, 70, there’s a couple years like this.

Cliff Bowman 01-07-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2301941)
The varying cut lines exist on, I think, every card in most of the series. 62, 70, there’s a couple years like this.

That isn't a cut line on the bottom of the 1962 Willie Mays, that is how Topps wedded together rows with different wood grain patterns in 1962. This Banks is an example of a card with a different wood grain pattern above it.

Tedwilliams1918 01-07-2023 01:29 PM

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I had pictures of other 1962 Mays’s with a really thick black line, but this site just never lets my pictures through

butchie_t 01-07-2023 03:09 PM

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Got Mr. Aaron IA with the line across the knee in the mail today.

Another one for the 72 set.

G1911 01-07-2023 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2301988)
That isn't a cut line on the bottom of the 1962 Willie Mays, that is how Topps wedded together rows with different wood grain patterns in 1962. This Banks is an example of a card with a different wood grain pattern above it.

Good to know, I’ve been calling them cut lines for years because they are common in other Topps sets where there is no border change or texture.

ALR-bishop 01-07-2023 05:03 PM

I think Darren outed the 72 Aaron

butchie_t 01-07-2023 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2302071)
I think Darren outed the 72 Aaron

I only knew about it from him. Props to Darren, I own one now.

B.T.

JollyElm 01-07-2023 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2302071)
I think Darren outed the 72 Aaron

That is true...however, I was quickly informed that someone already had it included on their on-line variations list...so my discovery gets an asterisk.

butchie_t 01-12-2023 02:37 PM

1975 Topps Checklist #464
 
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I have not seen this posted anywhere within this thread or anywhere else I have looked into on this site.

I believe this to be a variation of the Topps 75 Checklist #646. There is a blue streak that goes from just under the "C" in the word "Cards" at the top left of the card down to the right side of the number 534 in the checklist area.

This is repeatable, I have two of them now and I have seen them listed on eBay as well as COMC but they are not easy to come by. Some that I have seen are badly miscut or the check boxes are filled in. Regardless, they are out there to be found.

Not sure if anyone else may have one but here it is for your review.

Cheers,

Butch

Second picture shows both of them in a side-by-side view.

NOTE: This also appears in the mini set as well. There is a mini example now on COMC.

Elberson 01-13-2023 02:09 PM

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1967 Topps Richie Allen 450 fish eye or 450 degree version……:)

Collectorsince62 01-14-2023 12:12 PM

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Interesting color differences on the front of the '63 McBean. By the way, both have the yellow "A" in the cartoon on the back.

swarmee 01-14-2023 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elberson (Post 2303923)
1967 Topps Richie Allen 450 fish eye or 450 degree version……:)

4 degrees hotter and it will self-incinerate.

ALR-bishop 01-14-2023 07:09 PM

There is a true variation to the 63 McBean

doug.goodman 01-15-2023 11:55 AM

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I recently picked this up, even though I don't really do Topps cards anymore, I like it...

ALR-bishop 01-15-2023 11:58 AM

Doug has always been a variant oriented guy

ALR-bishop 01-15-2023 12:15 PM

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Although there is a front cropping difference on the 63 McBean cards, on the backs there can be either a white or orange A. I am virtually positive it was discussed earlier in this thread, as were the other 63 cropping differences discussed in this Vrechek article

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrF...SEGGttttZAUPY-

doug.goodman 01-15-2023 12:17 PM

With the hundreds of Topps variations I used to own (around 1400, I think) it's funny that this is my first 'wrong back'.

Sliphorn 01-15-2023 01:45 PM

1961 #153 Lee
 
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Here is yet another border break in this set.

ALR-bishop 01-15-2023 02:38 PM

.....and this one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28509695840...3ABFBMlNXv9bZh

Cliff Bowman 01-15-2023 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2304590)

:D. He is part of one of the best (in my opinion) baseball trivia questions ever, who is the only MLB player to ever hit a home run off of both father and son pitchers?

Tedwilliams1918 01-17-2023 09:04 PM

Cliff
 
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Cliff these 1956s with sandy by their ear could there be a whole run of them affected with sandy as the pinnacle of the set?

swarmee 01-18-2023 06:53 PM

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1967...&size=original
1967 Topps - [Base] #575 - High # - Dave Boswell [Must Be Graded]
Courtesy of COMC.com
May be pricey since it's a high number...
Recurring yellow print dot at the bottom of the N in TWINS.

ejstel 01-18-2023 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2305400)
Cliff these 1956s with sandy by their ear could there be a whole run of them affected with sandy as the pinnacle of the set?

And the pepper has dirt by his feet?, right?

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Tedwilliams1918 01-19-2023 12:27 PM

One pepper has a giant sand blob by his feet
The other has the exact same sand blob as sandy by his left ear

ALR-bishop 01-19-2023 06:18 PM

See post 2434 for 4 peppers. There are more

Sliphorn 01-20-2023 08:33 AM

Peppers Galore
 
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You can see it is a movable situation.

G1911 01-22-2023 03:16 PM

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1970 Topps 104 Gerry Moses - some cards have this black loop at top. It doesn't look to me like it's part of another cards design or name, as these cards aren't badly cut or centered. Doesn't look like it's off nearly enough to show part of another cards design. I don't know what the sheet layoff was, maybe I'm wrong.

This card is a cream type back, as are the other couple I have seen. I haven't looked over a ton of copies, so this may be fairly common.

Cliff Bowman 01-22-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2306886)
1970 Topps 104 Gerry Moses - some cards have this black loop at top. It doesn't look to me like it's part of another cards design or name, as these cards aren't badly cut or centered. Doesn't look like it's off nearly enough to show part of another cards design. I don't know what the sheet layoff was, maybe I'm wrong.

This card is a cream type back, as are the other couple I have seen. I haven't looked over a ton of copies, so this may be fairly common.

That's chipping on that card that makes it look like a loop, it's actually part of the black dividing line that got thick at that point of the line. Not all of the Moses cards with the black line have that flaw, probably different locations on the two Slits.

G1911 01-22-2023 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2306896)
That's chipping on that card that makes it look like a loop, it's actually part of the black dividing line that got thick at that point of the line. Not all of the Moses cards with the black line have that flaw, probably different locations on the two Slits.

Thanks Cliff! The 1970 lines are weird, many don't have them at all, some have multiple versions, some sheets had these lines and some didn't.

Tedwilliams1918 01-23-2023 04:42 AM

Just got this for 200😨
 
Anyone else have one? Took me 2 years to find one that cheap

Tedwilliams1918 01-23-2023 04:46 AM

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Cliff Bowman 01-23-2023 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2307035)
Anyone else have one? Took me 2 years to find one that cheap

I wish I did, you got a bargain. I believe the 67 Marichal was in the top row of one of the two Slits, that was the cause of the damage to the name on the back.

butchie_t 01-23-2023 08:57 AM

Ok, where is this variation, then?
 
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I have been searching for what seems like an eternity for the 1970 Topps Alyea
blob (for want of a better word) backed card.

I have the ball and the no ball versions. The only place I have ever seen the middle variation is on the BB Card Variation Guide Book site.

So, is this a one off? Or do I keep looking? I appreciate your inputs regarding this card.

Thanks,

Butch

ejstel 01-23-2023 01:33 PM

and some are white, right?
So are the black lines only on the outside borders....and they are sloppy, like the original layouts were pencil or pen. I feel that where there are those bigger marks is where the pen/pencil came up and the next went down. Like when you are marking a 8 ft board with a 2 ft ruler?

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JollyElm 01-23-2023 07:34 PM

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I personally don't pay much attention to the endless variety of different printing anomalies that can be found on most cards, but if you enjoy those kinda things, here's something new I noticed on one of my graded 1973 Topps #174 Rich Gossage Rookies. I searched around a while and located another example relatively quickly on eBay (below), so it is recurring and assumedly pretty rare as far as these things go.

A spectral blue orb hovers right below the Goose's pitching hand...

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steve B 01-24-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ejstel (Post 2307196)
and some are white, right?
So are the black lines only on the outside borders....and they are sloppy, like the original layouts were pencil or pen. I feel that where there are those bigger marks is where the pen/pencil came up and the next went down. Like when you are marking a 8 ft board with a 2 ft ruler?

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The lines are between certain sections on the 70's, and some other sets.

The entire process was essentially hand done. If the lines are at the top and bottom of the slits - groups of cards produced together, usually 3-4 rows of 11 if I remember them right. Then the dark line would be a gap between the large negative for the different slits.
The negatives get placed on an opaque backing paper and the whole thing is called the mask.
White lines would be where the mask blocked the overlappping area.

whiteymet 01-25-2023 02:04 PM

A 1960 stumper at least to me
 
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Can anyone educate me on what the black is at the top of the card?

Not to mention there are print dots down his right arm in the small photo and and one on his left arm as well.

Lucas00 01-25-2023 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteymet (Post 2308014)
Can anyone educate me on what the black is at the top of the card?

Not to mention there are print dots down his right arm in the small photo and and one on his left arm as well.

It's some print on the top border of the sheethttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...39f5f6c426.jpg

ejstel 01-27-2023 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2307088)
I have been searching for what seems like an eternity for the 1970 Topps Alyea

blob (for want of a better word) backed card.



I have the ball and the no ball versions. The only place I have ever seen the middle variation is on the BB Card Variation Guide Book site.



So, is this a one off? Or do I keep looking? I appreciate your inputs regarding this card.



Thanks,



Butch

Butch,

I looked at like 30 1970 Alyeas that I have and all were either the full ball or no ball.

...also sharing some 1967 print vars- while at the same time alerting the yellow print fades police....siren blaring.

Can I retire after finding that Monteagudo?

Best,
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butchie_t 01-27-2023 03:08 PM

Thanks Ed,

I am beginning to believe it is a one off. Even Mr. Dingman does not have it.

As for your find? "Can I retire after finding that Monteagudo?"

Sorry, rest up a bit and get back in there! Awesome find.

Cheers,

B.T.

butchie_t 01-27-2023 04:23 PM

Never ending 75 Topps Brent Strom version addition
 
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I just received this version today. Did not get it for the autograph, got it for the red/green dot on his eyelid. Reasonably sure it is a one off, but it goes in to the book for me.

Eventually, possibly, I will scan all the different ones I have come across. He is reaching Gaylord Perry territory. Larry has a couple that I am lacking and looking for.

Happy Friday.

B.T.

butchie_t 01-27-2023 04:35 PM

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Off topic

I finally got my cards into binders after many years traipsing them around the country in boxes. Finally looks nice to have them all bound and shelved.

Cheers,

B.T.

Cliff Bowman 01-27-2023 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejstel (Post 2308689)
Can I retire after finding that Monteagudo?

I don’t know about that, but I sure could use it as an upgrade, mine is brutal.

savedfrommyspokes 01-27-2023 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2308711)
I just received this version today. Did not get it for the autograph, got it for the red/green dot on his eyelid. Reasonably sure it is a one off, but it goes in to the book for me.

Eventually, possibly, I will scan all the different ones I have come across. He is reaching Gaylord Perry territory. Larry has a couple that I am lacking and looking for.

Happy Friday.

B.T.

Well, I can tell you about one I don't have, that would be your most recent pickup. None of my copies have the colored spot above Brent's left eye. Definitely unique, great pickup.

ejstel 01-28-2023 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2308723)
I don’t know about that, but I sure could use it as an upgrade, mine is brutal.

Cliff,

Hi I am currently working on a 1967 set; more than happy to trade you the Monteguedo if it can help both of us (not sure of your stock). Should I dm you my list?

Also open to selling it (to buy 1967's for my set) ..retirement still on hold :)
Best,
Ed

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butchie_t 01-28-2023 05:21 PM

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I finally picked up this 71 Topps Ken Henderson variation. I foolishly thought I had gotten one about 3 months ago until it was delivered and it was a bait and switch. Photo was the variation, card I received was not the variation. Not worth it for what was paid to hassle with a return. But, This one is the read deal. Sweet!

Another one checked off the list.

Cheers,

B.T.

G1911 01-28-2023 06:04 PM

Any of our printing experts know what’s up with these? For many years you can find cards with this same recurring ‘green circle with a red dot in the middle of it’ mark. I have a number of them, seems something more specific than random stray ink because of how many years it appears and how specific the combination of colors in the mark is. Just curious

Tedwilliams1918 01-28-2023 10:13 PM

As for
The dingman not having it listed, he’s been locked out of his list and can’t find out how to get back on there to update…..he said he’s essentially given up on trying to get back in to update

Tedwilliams1918 01-28-2023 10:13 PM

I e brought dingman to my Facebook groups he comments somewhat regularly

steve B 01-30-2023 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2309047)
Any of our printing experts know what’s up with these? For many years you can find cards with this same recurring ‘green circle with a red dot in the middle of it’ mark. I have a number of them, seems something more specific than random stray ink because of how many years it appears and how specific the combination of colors in the mark is. Just curious

It's a fisheye on the red or magenta layer. Yellow and cyan are usually printed earlier, so you have a greenish image. A bit of debris on the offset blanket gets inked, and prints but prevents the area around it from printing.

Elberson 01-30-2023 11:14 AM

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1967 topps 551 doug camilli……with faded broken black boarder and team name and purple roller mark in middle of card

Elberson 01-30-2023 11:18 AM

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1967 topps 559 dick tracewski…….faded broken black left boarder

Elberson 01-30-2023 11:22 AM

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1967 topps 566 gary geiger……faded broken black boarder and team name

Elberson 01-30-2023 11:52 AM

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1967 topps 524 Felix mantilla……faded “u” in cubs with yellow splash and blue in left side of hair…….I found one similar on eBay but no blue spot in hair just yellow in cubs….bottom picture

Gorditadogg 01-30-2023 04:27 PM

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I understand that many of the higher numbered 1976 Topps cards can be found with "blue snow". This Al Oliver card has a few flurries.

Cliff Bowman 01-30-2023 05:24 PM

Yes!! The 76 Topps Blue Dots! I was thinking Oliver had more than that, there are probably varying degrees, I will check mine tonight.

Tedwilliams1918 01-30-2023 07:18 PM

1958 error mantle
 
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Off to
A
Huge start even if it ends at 450 huge premium so far

Cliff Bowman 01-30-2023 07:31 PM

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Here's my 76 Topps Blue Dots Al Oliver. It's a little more afflicted, it even got into the the mustard yellow name plate.

ALR-bishop 01-31-2023 09:32 AM

Can you believe the size of the head on that Dick Tracewski :)

ALR-bishop 01-31-2023 12:41 PM

Shane---do not look at this post


https://www.ebay.com/itm/26592087288...Bk9SR5zxwJXBYQ

G1911 01-31-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2309803)

Oh, this is just mean!

There’s a guy on eBay selling reprints of the Seaver and Gibson original poses (the good, non-deceptive kind) with a description of the card changes on the back that I bought and slotted into my set. Really nice when people make those available for us poors.

frankhardy 01-31-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2309803)

Yes, I have had the honor of viewing that one. Mr Wentz has some great stuff, but he shoots for the moon on a few things. I think he should take decimal and move it to the left one digit and he MIGHT have a chance at selling it. It is a nice piece, but that price is crazy. I would purchase if he moved it TWO places to the left!

Tedwilliams1918 02-06-2023 06:31 PM

Sgc 1 mantle error sells for 710
 
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Based on condition this is the first big sale for the error card

Tedwilliams1918 02-09-2023 08:01 PM

1958 dick brown
 
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Got this today kinda fun, quite rare

butchie_t 02-14-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2309761)
Can you believe the size of the head on that Dick Tracewski :)

Took me two weeks to see this, but, hahahahahahaahh. :p:D

Cheers,

B.T.

swarmee 02-17-2023 03:10 PM

Cut in the card number circle on the back of this Oliva checklist. Recurring PD.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1969...inal&side=back
1969 Topps - [Base] #582.1 - High # - 7th Series (Tony Oliva) (White Circle on Back)
Courtesy of COMC.com

butchie_t 02-18-2023 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2315539)
Cut in the card number circle on the back of this Oliva checklist. Recurring PD.

Thanks! Got one coming now.

Butch

butchie_t 02-18-2023 04:35 PM

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Happiness is reoccurring print variations.

The 75 Strom with the eye fisheye is the second one. (no autograph on this one.).

Dennis Higgins 69 WL is for my Senators team set collections.

4reals 02-20-2023 08:30 PM

1978 #373 Pink right border

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