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Jobu 12-15-2020 01:13 PM

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Here is Christy Mathewson throwing out the first pitch of the clinching game 5 of the 1905 World Series. I wrote more about it here:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...highlight=1905

tlhss 12-15-2020 07:47 PM

Vintage Sandlot
 
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No idea who these guys are, other than "Uncle Bill is the catcher".

rickalaska 12-15-2020 10:32 PM

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Bicem 12-16-2020 12:45 AM

You're killing me Rick, incredible.

rickalaska 12-16-2020 12:09 PM

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h2oya311 12-17-2020 03:15 PM

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You're killing me Rick, incredible.

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Bicem 12-17-2020 05:05 PM

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The Marquard card is Edgerton, Ohio

I could not find an Edgerton Maroons team in Ohio during that time, there was one however in Edgerton, Kansas. Anything on the back of your postcard?

Bicem 12-17-2020 05:06 PM

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Rookie GEORGE SISLER with teammates of the 1916 St. Louis Browns (managed by Fielder Jones) apparently during Winter baseball in Corozal, Panama. Note: Sisler's hat and uniform are different then the other players - not sure why... likely, not enough Corozal uniforms and Sisler being the ROOKIE, had to settle... Forty-year-old pitcher Eddie Plank apparently did not attend and is not pictured.

Were you able to id any other Browns players?

rickalaska 12-17-2020 05:33 PM

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Bicem 12-17-2020 06:00 PM

Can you post it? Any other content?

rickalaska 12-17-2020 06:07 PM

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Bicem 12-17-2020 07:02 PM

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Edgerton, Ohio - Marquard was from Ohio

Yep, there's newspaper accounts of him playing for Telling in 1905 but couldn't find anything about him playing for Edgerton or even a team called the Edgerton Maroons. You don't have any research like that do you?

I love early pre mlb images of players is why I ask.

rickalaska 12-17-2020 09:55 PM

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RUKen 12-18-2020 04:40 AM

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HUGH DUFFY (HOF) player/manager of the 1908 Providence Grays. HUGH DUFFY is of course the holder of the major league's highest single season batting average in history at .440 in 1894. He batted .333 for Providence in 1908. Standing behind him in the buttoned sweater is pitcher Sam Frock (24-14 record in 1908) who pitched for the Pittsburgh Pirates and Boston Doves.

That player does not look like Hugh Duffy.

rickalaska 12-18-2020 04:43 AM

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RUKen 12-18-2020 06:20 AM

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Hugh Duffy's ears are VERY DISTINCTIVE. Compare the photos

I don't find the eyes and eyebrows to be a match, and I think Duffy's left ear is more angular on its edge than the rounded ear of the man on your postcard.

molenick 12-18-2020 09:23 AM

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Paid too much for this postcard many years ago because I and the seller were convinced Ty Cobb was the fifth person from the left. I was later told by a Cobb expert that it was not him, but I still held out hope. That is, until today when I did some research and found a clipping of this photo in the Detroit Free Press from May 8, 1910 https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4581...it-free-press/. The McGraw Tigers were a local independent team but "Cobb" is actually "Anderson, catcher". It must have been interesting living in Detroit in 1910 and "kind of" looking like Cobb. But I probably should have used my money on something else 30 years ago (or whenever it was that I bought this).

rickalaska 12-18-2020 11:17 AM

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vintagebaseballcardguy 12-18-2020 11:52 AM

Amazing thread, guys! This is the kind of thread that gives a baseball card collector thoughts of crossing over....

RUKen 12-18-2020 12:08 PM

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The RPPC is of the 1908 Providence Grays - many of the players can easily be identified. The most important - Sam Frock (pictured in my first posting) ONLY played for Providence in 1908 and is clearly in the photo (his ears are just as distinctive as Duffy's). Duffy was the player/manager of that team - doesn't make sense he would not be in the team photo.

Now compare your photos to the 1906 Fan Craze photo of Duffy and tell me they look exactly the same - they don't. People gain and loose weight - even his hair style is different in every photo. I believe your first photo is from 1894

The photo in my first post is from 1901, from the Chicago Daily News collection. I had not compared the hair, or the weight--I wrote that the eyes, eyebrows, and ears (at least the left ear) did not match. Sometimes people miss team photos. If you have IDs for other players, that would be helpful to confirm the 1908 date. In my opinion, the player in the middle is not a match for Hugh Duffy, whose face is quite distinctive.

rickalaska 12-18-2020 05:45 PM

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Casey2296 12-18-2020 07:05 PM

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"Big Train"

Picked up from a member, thanks Jeff.

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Bicem 12-19-2020 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rickalaska (Post 2047044)
The RPPC is of the 1908 Providence Grays - many of the players can easily be identified. The most important - Sam Frock (pictured in my first posting) ONLY played for Providence in 1908 and is clearly in the photo (his ears are just as distinctive as Duffy's). Duffy was the player/manager of that team - doesn't make sense he would not be in the team photo.

Now compare your photos to the 1906 Fan Craze photo of Duffy and tell me they look exactly the same - they don't. People gain and loose weight - even his hair style is different in every photo. I believe your first photo is from 1894

Doesn't look like Duffy or Frock to me.

Duffy photo used for his 1908 (and '07, '09) Providence composite postcard.

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...218_232716.jpg

Frock photo also used for his 1908 Providence postcard (and later used for his 1912 c46 card)

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...218_104913.jpg

Hankphenom 12-19-2020 07:49 AM

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"Big Train"

Picked up from a member, thanks Jeff.

Fabulous PC, from a significant date in his career.

tlhss 12-19-2020 11:03 AM

Donovan Illinois Baseball Club 1915
 
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The Outfield Staff ...

robertsmithnocure 12-20-2020 09:27 AM

I do not think that is Duffy either. Not even close in my opinion.

RUKen 12-20-2020 10:54 AM

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I do not think that is Duffy either. Not even close in my opinion.

Here is one more image of Duffy, from 1910, looking nearly straight at the camera. It's clearly not him in the Providence photo; I'm wondering if this is some other Providence team, not the Providence (Rhode Island) Grays.

Bicem 12-20-2020 12:03 PM

I would question a lot of these player ID's without supporting evidence vs "just looks like him."

leaflover 12-21-2020 07:46 AM

Not a postcard.
 
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The 1935 Cub infield. But kind of cool!

tlhss 12-27-2020 08:32 AM

1906 Alliance Ohio Baseball Club
 
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1906 Alliance Ohio Baseball Club

robertsmithnocure 12-27-2020 03:27 PM

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Here is one more image of Duffy, from 1910, looking nearly straight at the camera. It's clearly not him in the Providence photo; I'm wondering if this is some other Providence team, not the Providence (Rhode Island) Grays.

There is no way that those are the same players. I do not understand how anyone could possibly say otherwise. Quite a few of the identifications in this thread seem like stretches to me.

slidekellyslide 12-30-2020 09:40 AM

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Here's a fun one for you guys. I have no idea if this is Cobb and family, but the resemblance to Cobb, his wife, and all the kids is pretty amazing. It's also in Detroit and the postcard was made by the United News Company which was located in Detroit. The white border cards date from 1915-1930. Is it Cobb? Some day I hope a photo pops up to corroborate this but until then it's speculation.

bigfanNY 12-30-2020 04:37 PM

Duffy portland Maine
 
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The 1913 portland Duff's Opening day set a record for largest crowd for A Baseball game in Maine.

rickalaska 01-02-2021 08:31 PM

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Bicem 01-02-2021 09:28 PM

Too funny Rick!

Buythatcard 01-03-2021 06:31 AM

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This Postcard has references to:

Honus Wagner
Mordecai Brown (Finger Brown)
Ty Cobb
John McGraw (Muggsy)
Christy Mathewson (Big Six).

molenick 01-10-2021 09:01 AM

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I don't actively collect these anymore, but I saved some from when I did. These are my rppc teams that I have not posted in the Baseball Ladies or Native American threads. I see about seven future HOFers (just kidding). But if anyone wants to look for famous ears, I can post larger scans of individual cards.

molenick 01-17-2021 02:47 PM

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And here are some single-player rppc's.

ksfarmboy 01-17-2021 05:41 PM

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And here are some single-player rppc's.

I have that same Sedgwick postcard. It’s from Kansas.

molenick 01-17-2021 06:25 PM

Mine has no printed description on the back and is unused (no postmark, message, etc.) and the location of the team was not something I could tell based on the photo. Thanks.

BeanTown 01-18-2021 08:03 PM

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Monterrey with a young Roy Campanella

BeanTown 01-18-2021 08:05 PM

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Colonial baseball club with Cobb

BeanTown 01-18-2021 08:14 PM

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Otsego Hired guns


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