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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Lee, <br /><br />Just let it go. You complain about OT postings, yet you have created, and prolonged, an OT thread about OT postings. We're at 157+ post and you're still harping on the same things. <br /><br />Yes, the board isn't what it used to be. Five years from now, it will be different still. Message boards evolve (or devolve, I suppose you feel), but they never stay stagnant. When I go back to the early posts, I'm surprised at how consistent this board has been. <br /><br />There is no limit or cap on anyone talking about vintage cards. Some on the board have done a very good job of staying on topic. Some of us (myself included) don't always follow that concept. That's the way message boards, and life in general, are. <br /><br />Post on vintage cards. Post on sets. Post on Grading. Post on auctions. Don't post on "how it used to be." Move on. Everyone else already has.

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Jim VB, You will find that I have probably posted a dozen times in relavent threads since I started this thread. I came to this board I think as everyone did, to learn knowledge about vintage baseball cards. I have gained a great deal of knowledge from this board, but if it weren't for Ted Zs research threads on T206s I don't I have seen much relavent knowledge in the last year or so and alot of threads that have nothing to do with vintage baseball. <br /><br />I have a passion for the hobby and for more knowledge, in my eyes this has disintegrated which I hate to see but if it continues in a way it is to be regressing to I will post very little and become more of a lurker answering by email. <br /><br />I have researched and dug deep to find any information I can on the T202 set and I don't feel that there are many people out there that know more than me, certainly not anyone that frequents the board. This is an asset that will be lost as we have lost many other knowledgable contribuators in the past.<br /><br />I have gained some nice friendships through this board that will continue but it gets frustrating when you can't come and read about vintage baseball cards and have to see threads about steroids, how many HRs will ARod hit.<br /><br />Many of you like to to the people that are passionate about this hobby and voice their opinion. You will find that most of these people are the ones will alot of knowledge and are willing to share it.<br /><br />I do not feel I have out stepped my bounds maybe a little redundant but I feel this is my last resort on my part to try what I feel is this board more directed towards card talk again.<br /><br />Lee

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Posted By: <b>Tom Nieves</b><p>" 'Remember When' is the lowest form of conversation." -- Tony Soprano

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Lee, I have learned quite a bit about vintage cards from this board in the past year...I would argue that there has been much more information given out than just Ted Z's posts (Which are some of the very best this board has ever offered I might add). We saw a few new discoveries, we learned we can not trust the auction houses as much as we thought when it comes to altering cards, I finally got answers to some of my N172 questions....and yes we also learned more than we ever wanted to know about cockfighting. I guess I just don't see what the big deal is...Jay and Scott started up the other board and while I don't see any off topic posts on the main board I also don't see any real discussion going on either. There is plenty of knowledge over there so why isn't there more discussion?<br /> <br />

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Supply & demand.<br />If there's not much action on a certain thread (Vintage cards or not), then there is simply not enough interest or information. Not every thread has to go 200 posts and some don't even deserve 1.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Kravitz</b><p>This thread sucks! It's another attempt to rip on Leon. The board is solid other then a few threads here and there. This may be one of the "there" threads.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jim VB,<br /><br />Agreement--I can't believe people are still being lectured to here.<br /><br />To presume that everyone comes here to "learn about vintage bb cards" is wrong. I came here to discuss issues related to the vintage baseball card hobby--most notably all of those surrounding graded cards. I don't read Ted's posts and I do not read many others that relate to particular sets I care little about. Doesn't mean they are not valid posts just like it doesn't mean that a detaied study of the pops of T205 vs T206 is not valid.<br /><br />From experience I can also say that threatening to leave or post less doesn't really have an impact. Usually life goes on and the poster after a period of time comes back. <br /><br />Seems to me like the other board goes into a lot of the nitty gritty issues in depth--great, they have found a niche. Also the great Kevin Saucier posts there occasionally or more so it is a must check for me.<br /><br />Seems obvious but just post something of interest on vintage cards, posters should show great restraint on OT posts and relax.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>thought I would check in and see what the ruckus was all about...seems silly.<br /><br />Should change the subject/title to: Current Fight Thread.<br /><br />