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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>If the grading company was SGC, and it happened to Dan, we'd still be doing whatever we could to help out. You, on the other hand, don't have Dan's reputation, and the road you're travelling currently isn't going to get you there.<BR>

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Police Report number 03-167-1338. If anyone spots this card please contact me at r337man@yahoo.com. I am fuzzy on what to do when it is found so if there is anyone here knowlegable in this area, please advise. It should be easy to tell with the particular flaws. Thanks again for all of the support. Dan.

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Posted By: <b>david</b><p>i would contact vcbc, beckett, tuff stuff and scd. send them a copy of the police report along with the best scans you have of the front and the back. they usually print this sort of thing when there is a high profile theft. it would get the word out to a lot of people that the card is stolen when it turns up again.

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>including every grading service out there and every big-time dealer and auction house. Be sure to send each a scan or printout of the item in question. <BR><BR>The main issue here is void versus voidable title. A thief has void title--he cannot every pass on a stolen item legitimately. Someone who finds an item has voidable title, at worst. There is a doctrine of law, called the bona fide purchaser rule, that permits a person with voidable title to convey an item to a buyer, who is then permitted to keep the item if he is a truly innocent buyer who paid fair value for the item. This principle is included in every state's common law jurisprudence or in the version of the Uniform Commercial Code it has adopted. So, if someone at PSA stole the card and tried to sell it, and you could trace it all the way up the chain, you would probably be able to prove void title and you could probably get it back. If the garbage man found the card in the trash and sold it, you would probably be SOL in getting it back (there are some nuances with California found property laws, but it isn't material to the issue of passing title). If the thief sold the card anonymously at a show and the card passed through several more hands, you would probably have a voidable title issue and you would probably lose the case, since you would not be able to prove that the card was stolen, as opposed to lost. <BR><BR>The key here from your standpoint is taking every precaution you can to see to it that dealers in CA and grading services are made aware of the theft. I would do a mass email to every dealer advertising in SCD and the SMR, for starters, and every other dealer you can locate in Southern CA. Keep a record of each email. That way, if the card is offered to an honest (I know. . .)dealer you've notified of the loss, you may have a shot at getting the card back. Otherwise, if a dealer simply buys the card from someone without knowledge of its title issues, you are probably not going to be able to get it back, even if you sue, because of the bona fide purchaser rule. <BR><BR>I would also notify PSA of the loss and send them a scan. Some people might just be stupid enough to steal it from PSA and then have a friend submit it to PSA.

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Thanks, I have already started sending the scans to the other major grading services and stating that the card was submitted to PSA and may be lost or stolen and to keep an eye out. Everything you stated makes good sense except the last sentence, Since the PSA exectutives had trashed me, I am sure an email or letter from me will go right in the trash bin. I guess I can still send it. Where can I find SMR dealers in CA? Is there a list of them on the PSA website? Dan.

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Here is the wording I am sending out: Please let me know if this is legal and ok. Thanks<br><br><BR><BR><BR><BR>Hello Global,<BR><br> <BR>Please be on the look out for the attached T206 Magie error card. It was submitted to PSA and is now missing from there. Baltimore County Maryland Police Report number 03-167-1338.<BR><br> <BR>If you see this card, please contact me directly or your local police department.<BR><br> <BR>Thank you for your cooperation in this delicate matter.<BR><br> <BR>Sincerely,<BR>Dan Mckee

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>... a reward for anyone who helps you locate the card?<BR><BR>I have no clue if this would help or not but I thought I'd pass the idea on.<BR><BR>Keep fightin' the good fight!!<BR><BR>Mike

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Absolutely! I would gladly give an award to someone for locating the card as long as I got it back. If I gave an award just for locating it and I couldn't get it back, I would be out more $$$$. I am already struggling a bit from this hit. Shame on them!