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Shoeless Moe 10-23-2023 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2382968)
He turned it on this game, that's for sure. I think I'd still rather face him than Schwarber or Harper though.

Adolis Garcia

....but I just meant in baseball currently

Seager
Ohtani
Acuna

just deadly at the plate

StraightRaceCards 10-23-2023 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2379847)
The Astros are on the verge of their 7th straight ALCS Series appearance I don't think they fear anything or anyone.

Well, one heckuva series. The Astros got us in the regular series, but man does it feel good to win a pennant.

Hats off to the Astros coming back down 2 games. I thought they had us after the crushing game 5 loss…

Playoff baseball in Texas is sure fun!

Peter_Spaeth 10-23-2023 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2382981)
Adolis Garcia

....but I just meant in baseball currently

Seager
Ohtani
Acuna

just deadly at the plate

Betts and Freeman are outstanding too.

Peter_Spaeth 10-23-2023 09:54 PM

What is with the Astros and playing at home? Lost 4 in the 2019 WS, had a LOSING record at home this year, lost 4 to the Rangers.

Snapolit1 10-24-2023 07:23 AM

I would have been thrilled to be standing outside the stadium last night banging on a garbage can as the dejected crowd filtered out. Petty? Sure.

jayshum 10-24-2023 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2382926)
...forgot about Ranger Suarez. Should be a good one.

It will be the same starters from game 3 (Suarez and Pfaadt), but everyone else will likely be available except for the starters from game 6.

frankbmd 10-24-2023 09:33 AM

Betting Advice
 
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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2382926)
...forgot about Ranger Suarez. Should be a good one.

If Ranger Suarez faces the Rangers in the World Series, Ranger fans cannot lose.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 11:37 AM

Will Chapman get suspended for drilling McCormick with a 104 mph fastball, that was 100% on purpose?

I'm guessing not, but you would think he should.

That is gonna be one killer bruise too. OUCH!

philliesfan 10-24-2023 01:39 PM

I did not see that until today. Good. Glad he got nailed. During the season, McCormick was running to first on a grounder and as the ball was approaching the first baseman, McCormick swiped at his arm to try and interfere with the play. I don't remember the team as my son showed me on his phone the day after it happened. That is a dangerous play and could have caused an injury, so I like that he got drilled.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesfan (Post 2383191)
I did not see that until today. Good. Glad he got nailed. During the season, McCormick was running to first on a grounder and as the ball was approaching the first baseman, McCormick swiped at his arm to try and interfere with the play. I don't remember the team as my son showed me on his phone the day after it happened. That is a dangerous play and could have caused an injury, so I like that he got drilled.

oh yaaaaaah I remember he did that during the season, good recall.

yah then for sure, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy/bigger d#%k.

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesfan (Post 2383191)
I did not see that until today. Good. Glad he got nailed. During the season, McCormick was running to first on a grounder and as the ball was approaching the first baseman, McCormick swiped at his arm to try and interfere with the play. I don't remember the team as my son showed me on his phone the day after it happened. That is a dangerous play and could have caused an injury, so I like that he got drilled.

ARod did something similar against the Red Sox and then argued it was part of his natural running motion, as I recall.

BobbyStrawberry 10-24-2023 05:55 PM

Game 7, let's go! Pfaadt may need to pitch the game of his life tonight.

jayshum 10-24-2023 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2383252)
Game 7, let's go! Pfaadt may need to pitch the game of his life tonight.

I think he did that in game 3 so I'm hoping he can't do it again.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 06:27 PM

Wow, he looked really good against the Phillies Big 3.

Long way to go though.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 07:38 PM

Now THIS is how a game 7 should be.

Back and forth, back and forth.

BobbyStrawberry 10-24-2023 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2383270)
Now THIS is how a game 7 should be.

Back and forth, back and forth.

Agreed. Corbin Carroll coming alive!

jayshum 10-24-2023 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2383270)
Now THIS is how a game 7 should be.

Back and forth, back and forth.

Phillies have missed opportunities to score in the 4th and 5th which could be costly.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 08:39 PM

IF the Phillies don't come back boy did Bryce Harper F-up in the 3rd inning.

With Corbin on 1st, Suarez picks off Carroll but Harper waits on the ball instead of going out and getting it, which would have shortened his throw and gave himself a perfect angle to get him at 2nd, but he doesn't come out and get the ball and his throw is basically straight to the runners back and he throws it high. Carroll gets in safely, should have been dead. Carroll then scores.

Who taught Harper how to play first base????

Ron Darling caught that too.

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2383287)
IF the Phillies don't come back boy did Bryce Harper F-up in the 3rd inning.

With Corbin on 1st, Suarez picks off Carroll but Harper waits on the ball instead of going out and getting it, and giving himself a perfect angle to get him at 2nd, but he doesn't come out and get the ball and his throw is basically straight to the runners back and high. Carroll gets in safely, should have been dead. Carroll then scores.

Who taught Harper how to play first base????

Ron Darling caught that too.

Big at bat there for Harper with two on and two out. Oh well, not his day.

jayshum 10-24-2023 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2383287)
IF the Phillies don't come back boy did Bryce Harper F-up in the 3rd inning.

With Corbin on 1st, Suarez picks off Carroll but Harper waits on the ball instead of going out and getting it, and giving himself a perfect angle to get him at 2nd, but he doesn't come out and get the ball and his throw is basically straight to the runners back and high. Carroll gets in safely, should have been dead. Carroll then scores.

Who taught Harper how to play first base????

Ron Darling caught that too.

Harper's only been playing first since halfway through the season so they could DH Schwarber who is one of the worst outfielders in the league. Harper's been decent at first but not much experience with a play like that.

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2383289)
Harper's only been playing first since halfway through the season so they could DH Schwarber who is one of the worst outfielders in the league. Harper's been decent at first but not much experience with a play like that.

There are endless to nuances to baseball, which is why in the end it is by far the best sport.

jayshum 10-24-2023 09:26 PM

Oh well. Phillies didn't hit the last 2 games and blowing game 4 comes back to haunt them. I don't know if Fox will be happy with the ratings of the Rangers Diamondbacks World Series.

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2383301)
Oh well. Phillies didn't hit the last 2 games and blowing game 4 comes back to haunt them. I don't know if Fox will be happy with the ratings of the Rangers Diamondbacks World Series.

As I said nobody outside of Phoenix and Dallas metro areas may watch it. Yawn.

jayshum 10-24-2023 09:36 PM

Pretty amazing that both road teams won games 6 and 7 to advance to the World Series. I don't know if that's ever happened before.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 09:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 09:41 PM

Nobody but nobody could have pulled that off like James Earl Jones. What an actor and what a voice. Brilliant casting of the J.D. Salinger character.

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 09:42 PM

YEP.....and true fans will watch.

Because as you said Baseball is the Greatest Sport.

3-2-count 10-24-2023 09:44 PM

Looking forward to watching this series.

Both teams fought, clawed and earned it!

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2383306)
YEP.....and true fans will watch.

Because as you said Baseball is the Greatest Sport.

I guess that's right, but with all the fabulous teams how did we end up Texas and Arizona?

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2383303)
Pretty amazing that both road teams won games 6 and 7 to advance to the World Series. I don't know if that's ever happened before.

Yah that is just nuts. No way that's ever happened.

"I don't believe what I just saw"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6JTyWMN_x8

Poor Rangers have home field (dis)advantage

Shoeless Moe 10-24-2023 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2383308)
I guess that's right, but with all the fabulous teams how did we end up Texas and Arizona?

I believe in early June or maybe June 1 give or take Texas was first in their division and Arizona was first in their, and these 2 teams (were behind only Tampa Bay who was red hot out of the gate) had the 2nd and 3rd best records in all of baseball, then they cooled off.......but they picked the perfect time to heat back up....but both were very good teams this year.

Phillies & Astros may have been a little too cocky.

But yah who would have guessed the Phillies will knock out the Braves, but the D-Backs will then knock out the Phillies. If this was a college basketball tourney pool EVERYONE would be out. THUS.....THE MOST UNPREDICTABLE PLAYOFFS EVER!!!!

So who gets a ring deGrom or Bumgarner?

Peter_Spaeth 10-24-2023 10:08 PM

With no interest in either team, I'll root for Scherzer I guess always liked him.

butchie_t 10-25-2023 06:17 AM

Bryce Harper still bringing championships to Washington (aka Texas).

It is a reach, but I’m good with it. He’ll be watching from afar.

todeen 10-25-2023 08:06 AM

I am very happy for the WS. No Houston, No LAD. Thank God! Texas has never won the WS, AZ hasn't won in 20+ years. Plus, the 2001 and the 2011 WS in which AZ & TX played are some of the best I've seen in my lifetime. I have high hopes they can create another classic.

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mrreality68 10-25-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2383316)
With no interest in either team, I'll root for Scherzer I guess always liked him.

I am happy both Philly and Houston are not in the World Series. I am not sure that the Networks airing the Games are not getting some bigger Market and/or story line teams for ratings.

It is good to see 2 teams that have not been there in a while in the Series. I do not care who wins it although funny that Degrom and Scherzer may win a championship.

I just hope that Scherzer chokes and gets smacked around even if his team wins it all. I just want to see him fail.

That might be one of my main reasons to watch when he pitches

irv 10-25-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by todeen (Post 2383356)
I am very happy for the WS. No Houston, No LAD. Thank God! Texas has never won the WS, AZ hasn't won in 20+ years. Plus, the 2001 and the 2011 WS in which AZ & TX played are some of the best I've seen in my lifetime. I have high hopes they can create another classic.

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I'm also glad Texas put out Houston and is off to the WS. I like former Jay Marcus Semien so I'm real happy for him.

Last night I was really hoping for an Arizona win. Not because I dislike the Phillies, but rather I was hoping Gurriel and Moreno, who the Jay's traded away, would be able to rub it in Shapiro's and Atkin's faces, like they did.

Now, concerning the WS, I'm in a real pickle as, like I mentioned above, I'd love to see those 3 win a WS, but, of course, that isn't going to happen.
On paper, I'd say Texas should win but with Arizona now having a ton of confidence, who knows?

Regardless, I'm just real happy the 3 I mentioned, former Jays, are going to the big dance as it proves, once again, Shapiro and Atkin's should not be involved in anything to do with baseball.

Shoeless Moe 10-27-2023 06:51 PM

THIS JUST IN

Corbin Carroll is good

Shoeless Moe 10-27-2023 06:52 PM

now we got a game!!!

Shoeless Moe 10-27-2023 06:58 PM

How smart was Arizona to lock him up thru 2031.


He's kinda like Altuve just a sparkplug for his team. 1000% hustle/thinking.


There are reasons you see guys like Altuve, Bregman(8 years in the bigs been to 7 ALCS), Seager, Carroll in the World Series, and multiple times. (Carroll is only 23, he'll be in more).

BobbyStrawberry 10-27-2023 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2384003)
now we got a game!!!

We sure do.

Shoeless Moe 10-27-2023 09:29 PM

WOW!!!!!!!

....and of course it's Seager.


one of thee deadliest hitters in the game.

jayshum 10-27-2023 09:49 PM

First extra inning game of the playoffs in game 1 of the World Series.

Shoeless Moe 10-27-2023 10:11 PM

GARCIA IS A BEAST!!!!

Every time he gets hit by the pitch, he hits a home run in the very next at bat.

What a game!

mrreality68 10-28-2023 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2384049)
GARCIA IS A BEAST!!!!

Every time he gets hit by the pitch, he hits a home run in the very next at bat.

What a game!

Truly a beast and I believe he set a playoff record of 22 RBI’s in a playoffs in 1 year with several games to go.

Actually was an exciting game

Shoeless Moe 10-30-2023 06:29 PM

Nice assist by Scherzer

Shoeless Moe 10-30-2023 06:44 PM

Well if Texas does win it all this year they are gonna have to cut the MVP Trophy in half and give 1/2 to Garcia and 1/2 to Seager.

Garcia throws out a runner at home.

Seager hits a home run the next inning.


These 2 are on FIRE!!!!!

BobbyStrawberry 10-30-2023 06:46 PM

Horrible baserunning by Walker. Everyone in the park knew not to challenge Garcia there.

Shoeless Moe 10-30-2023 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2384752)
Horrible baserunning by Walker. Everyone in the park knew not to challenge Garcia there.

yah how do you run with your head down like that.....and with nobody out just stupid

Peter_Spaeth 10-30-2023 10:26 PM

Did he run through a stop sign? On replay it's hard to tell when the coach changed his mind.

nolemmings 10-30-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2384800)
Did he run through a stop sign? On replay it's hard to tell when the coach changed his mind.

+1

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 12:59 AM

1. He should know which outfielders to run on.

2. He was running with his head down as he was rounding 3rd, should have been watching the coach, so intentional or unintentional he F'd up not looking or blowing through it.

3. And why risk it, would have been 1st & 3rd nobody out, and 2 batters, one being yourself, just rocked Scherzer. So you are probably scoring from 3rd anyway.

So Walker F'd up one way or the other....or the other.


Watch the 3 min mark, and especially on the reply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojfJo8x6y_Q

He's not even looking at the coach. Coach had it well up before he was running past him.

nolemmings 10-31-2023 10:37 AM

Perezchica waved him home and then changed his mind– halfway down the third-base line. Ideally Walker would have had his head up and been able to get back to third, but the coach could have handled it better in the first place. It isn’t just knowing the outfielders’ arms– the runner does not know if there was a bobble or a slip and is relying on the coach’s eyes.

As for the game situation, I don’t disagree that the standard call there is to hold him at third. But the Diamondbacks play chaos baseball and try to put pressure on the defense as much as possible by forcing them to make a play. Unfortunately, the ball took a room service hop and was handled cleanly by Garcia right in stride and he made the play. Worst case happened, but it still left a man on second with one out; i.e., in scoring position with a faster replacement runner.

Walker is neither a fast nor a slow runner, so I can understand why he would bear down and not look up once he saw he was being waved home. I assume that if he picked up the stop sign– which again was a change by the coach– he would have made it back to third. Then again, I remember a rookie Joe Mauer facing that same situation in a regular season game and getting hurt when he slammed on the brakes to get back. Hurt as in knee injury and surgery, a 21 year-old hitting .300 with pop and gone for most of the year– thanks a lot coach.

Dbacks looked like they were pressing a bit last night, but they had other chances over the next seven innings. So yeah, Walker can own most of that momentum killer, but he was not alone.

Peter_Spaeth 10-31-2023 10:47 AM

And if he held up and Scherzer got out of the inning people would be complaining they weren't aggressive enough. That's baseball.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2384900)
Perezchica waved him home and then changed his mind– halfway down the third-base line. Ideally Walker would have had his head up and been able to get back to third, but the coach could have handled it better in the first place. It isn’t just knowing the outfielders’ arms– the runner does not know if there was a bobble or a slip and is relying on the coach’s eyes.

I think like you said because of that line drive being a one hopper to Garcia and there was no bobble or anything that is why the coach changed his mind. He was hoping for anything but that, and the tailor made one hop made him change his mind and threw up the stop sign, but loooked to be in plenty of time for Walker to see it. Looking down makes no sense, that's how guys who are not fast run.

And to Peter's point on saying people would complain about not being aggressive, NOT with nobody out. Had there been one or 2 outs then yes you can make that argument. With nobdy out unless you are Carroll or Marte maybe, but don't be aggressive with your 4 hitter.

He stops there you got 1st and 3rd nobody out, Scherzer just got rocked twice. In all liklihood the Rangers are then giving up the runner on third anyway to get the double play. So Walker scores on almost anything the next 2 batters do. And Scherzer ain't the K machine he once was so again know what is going on.

Maybe a little less looking in the dugout, patting yourself on the back, waving your arms (like the Phillies, and basically every team) and how 'bout thinking about the situation and not thinking about your hit.

It changed the game.

Peter_Spaeth 10-31-2023 11:21 AM

Not convinced. Suppose he had scored. You don't think people would be saying gutsy call running on Garcia, great aggressive play, blah blah? Nobody would be saying oh but he should have held up. Dude nailed him with a perfect throw. This happens. He isn't going to make that throw, or have a perfect bounce, most of the time.

nolemmings 10-31-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2384921)
I think like you said because of that line drive being a one hopper to Garcia and there was no bobble or anything that is why the coach changed his mind. He was hoping for anything but that, and the tailor made one hop made him change his mind and threw up the stop sign, but loooked to be in plenty of time for Walker to see it. Looking down makes no sense, that's how guys who are not fast run.

And to Peter's point on saying people would complain about not being aggressive, NOT with nobody out. Had there been one or 2 outs then yes you can make that argument. With nobdy out unless you are Carroll or Marte maybe, but don't be aggressive with your 4 hitter.

He stops there you got 1st and 3rd nobody out, Scherzer just got rocked twice. In all liklihood the Rangers are then giving up the runner on third anyway to get the double play. So Walker scores on almost anything the next 2 batters do. And Scherzer ain't the K machine he once was so again know what is going on.

Maybe a little less looking in the dugout, patting yourself on the back, waving your arms (like the Phillies, and basically every team) and how 'bout thinking about the situation and not thinking about your hit.

It changed the game.

I disagree. The coach should have assumed the play would be made cleanly and not waved him home, especially as the standard play would be to hold in that situation. There was no need to start with an initial wave home in "hopes" there would be a defensive slip up.

As for knowing game situations, it cuts both ways and your argument is self-serving. Of course Walker knows the game situation, but then again, the whole purpose of having a third-base coach is to have a reliable second set of eyes and a command structure of what to do in real time. If anything, I would argue that Walker would have assumed he would be held and started digging--with head down--once he saw the wave home. It is not necessarily incumbent upon him to wonder--gee coach, are you sure?-- in that situation.

Finally, Walker is incredibly unassuming and not into his performance at the cost of game mismanagement, so your insinuation that he was somehow clueless because he was thinking about himself is baseless.

BobbyStrawberry 10-31-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2384900)
Perezchica waved him home and then changed his mind– halfway down the third-base line.

Are you sure about this? I don't recall seeing a replay with a wide enough angle, but it looked to me like Walker wasn't even at third yet when the stop sign came up.

Garcia has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and Walker has to know that. Also, as has been said, Scherzer struggling and nobody out. At least look back or at the coach again before putting your head down and barreling home.

nolemmings 10-31-2023 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2384933)
Are you sure about this? I don't recall seeing a replay with a wide enough angle, but it looked to me like Walker wasn't even at third yet when the stop sign came up.

Garcia has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and Walker has to know that. Also, as has been said, Scherzer struggling and nobody out. At least look back or at the coach again before putting your head down and barreling home.

No, I'm not sure--hence my initial post :) Look, there is no doubt he could have looked up at some point upon crossing third or so and probably got back to the base. I just find it to be a bit of armchair managing to say that what Walker did was stupid and done without any reason. Between the aggressive philosophy the team has used all year and the fact that a coach first emphatically waved him to score, I can see why it happened the way it did, and as a Dback fan, I cannot point to Walker as a goat there. With seven innings left in a 0-0 game, it was just a good baseball play by the Rangers. Handled perfectly with two perfect bounces-- one to Garcia and the other to Heim. C'est la vie.

P.S. It would have been interesting if Marquez called balls and strikes with a respectable degree of accuracy.

jayshum 10-31-2023 04:01 PM

Garcia is not starting tonight for the Rangers. Big loss especially if he's out for the rest of the Series.

BobbyStrawberry 10-31-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2384939)
No, I'm not sure--hence my initial post :) Look, there is no doubt he could have looked up at some point upon crossing third or so and probably got back to the base. I just find it to be a bit of armchair managing to say that what Walker did was stupid and done without any reason. Between the aggressive philosophy the team has used all year and the fact that a coach first emphatically waved him to score, I can see why it happened the way it did, and as a Dback fan, I cannot point to Walker as a goat there. With seven innings left in a 0-0 game, it was just a good baseball play by the Rangers. Handled perfectly with two perfect bounces-- one to Garcia and the other to Heim. C'est la vie.

P.S. It would have been interesting if Marquez called balls and strikes with a respectable degree of accuracy.

I agree with you about the ump last night. Totally inconsistent. Remember the call later in the game on (I think it was) Moreno? About half a foot outside and called a strike. Smh

jayshum 10-31-2023 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2385003)
Garcia is not starting tonight for the Rangers. Big loss especially if he's out for the rest of the Series.

Just saw that both Garcia and Scherzer were replaced on the Rangers roster so they're both done for the Series. Garcia definitely a big loss, not sure if losing Scherzer will make a difference.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2384933)
Are you sure about this? I don't recall seeing a replay with a wide enough angle, but it looked to me like Walker wasn't even at third yet when the stop sign came up.

Garcia has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and Walker has to know that. Also, as has been said, Scherzer struggling and nobody out. At least look back or at the coach again before putting your head down and barreling home.

You are correct, he wasn't even at third when he put his head down, just bad baseball....even if he was safe....why risk it....nobody out, men on first and third, pitcher getting rocked.

It's just bad baseball to go home on that unless you are positive you are scoring. I don't care if that is how Arizona plays. The coach obviously knew he should hold. And yes his initial waving him home was wrong, but he caught his error before Walker touched third, Walker could have and should have seen that and hit the breaks.

How often does the runner score from 2nd and no outs in extra innings, I don't have stats but from watching this year seems like 50% or better. So a runner on 3rd nobody out has to be in the 75-80% neighborhood if not higher.

Walker F'd up.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2385025)
Just saw that both Garcia and Scherzer were replaced on the Rangers roster so they're both done for the Series. Garcia definitely a big loss, not sure if losing Scherzer will make a difference.

Devastating blow losing Garcia.

Wow.

I'd tell DeGrom get loose and get in their for Scherzer.........(I know I know he won't back back until Aug '24, one can dream though)

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 05:46 PM

my last thoughts on this.....
 
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If you want read the whole article here.....but the screenshot sums it up


https://sabr.org/journal/article/nev...20home%20plate.

nolemmings 10-31-2023 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2385027)
You are correct, he wasn't even at third when he put his head down, just bad baseball....even if he was safe....why risk it....nobody out, men on first and third, pitcher getting rocked.

It's just bad baseball to go home on that unless you are positive you are scoring. I don't care if that is how Arizona plays. The coach obviously knew he should hold. And yes his initial waving him home was wrong, but he caught his error before Walker touched third, Walker could have and should have seen that and hit the breaks.

How often does the runner score from 2nd and no outs in extra innings, I don't have stats but from watching this year seems like 50% or better. So a runner on 3rd nobody out has to be in the 75-80% neighborhood if not higher.

Walker F'd up.

The local press is throwing shade at both Walker and Perezchica for the play, although Walker appears to own it (I would expect nothing less), saying he froze for a second and tried to make up for the poor jump once he saw he was being waved in. Some radioheads question why Perezchica would have ever given the wave sign-- given the situation you presume hold and change to wave only if/when you see a misplay.

Of course, no one in AZ has the insight of some of the great baseball minds here on net54. Such a pity.

Peter_Spaeth 10-31-2023 06:13 PM

From another angle Walker is clearly getting the big windmill as he rounds third and only after that does he get the stop sign. It's not that easy to stop and reverse fields with that full head of steam.

Last sequence.
https://sports.yahoo.com/world-serie...114150111.html

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2385048)

Of course, no one in AZ has the insight of some of the great baseball minds here on net54. Such a pity.


Thank you.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 06:26 PM

home plate umping looking shakey already early on, here we go again.

jayshum 10-31-2023 06:45 PM

Rangers doing ok without Garcia so far. 5 runs through the second inning.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 06:45 PM

Great choice of pitchers by the Arizona manager.

They keep this up a position player may close this out.


Another bomb by Seager, I hope he has some silver polish at home, he gonna need it for that trophy.


C'mon Arizona wake up and make this a game I can't stand blowouts.

jayshum 10-31-2023 07:09 PM

So naturally, Jankowski, the guy who is only playing because Garcia is hurt, has 2 hits and now 10-0 in the third.

Shoeless Moe 10-31-2023 07:12 PM

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mrreality68 11-01-2023 01:05 PM

Looks like Degrom and Sherzer will get a World Series Ring and each can say they did not deserve it but will take it ::confused:

jayshum 11-01-2023 02:44 PM

Does it end tonight or does Arizona manage to win one at home and send the Series back to Texas? Pitching match-up is same as game 1, and so far Gallen has not been very good in the postseason for Arizona.

BobbyStrawberry 11-01-2023 02:47 PM

I think Arizona takes this one. Gallen is better than he has shown in his last few starts.

nolemmings 11-01-2023 03:13 PM

In the words of of Barry Gordy and others, as sung by Michael Jackson, "I'll be There".

jayshum 11-01-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2385275)
I think Arizona takes this one. Gallen is better than he has shown in his last few starts.

In September, he was 3-3 with a 4.17 ERA and the postseason his ERA is 5.27 in 5 starts. He's been struggling for a while and needs to come up with a good start tonight to keep Arizona alive.

nolemmings 11-01-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2385285)
In September, he was 3-3 with a 4.17 ERA and the postseason his ERA is 5.27 in 5 starts. He's been struggling for a while and needs to come up with a good start tonight to keep Arizona alive.

He's exceeded his career high innings pitched total by more than 50 this year counting post-season. Then again, he jumped it by more than 60 from 2021 to 2022, so it seems like a reasonable progression. In any event, this is his last shot for the season, win lose or draw--absent a Game 7 Randy Johnson-like late relief appearance-- so he should be burning everything in the tank, including the fumes.

BobbyStrawberry 11-01-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2385284)
In the words of of Barry Gordy and others, as sung by Michael Jackson, "I'll be There".

As in, at the actual game?

Shoeless Moe 11-01-2023 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2385249)
Looks like Degrom and Sherzer will get a World Series Ring and each can say they did not deserve it but will take it ::confused:

What do you mean deGrom doesn't deserve one? The Rangers barely made the Playoffs, only by a game or 2.

deGrom was 2-0 with 6 quality starts.

Granted he was only there for a month, but without what he did early on they may not have even gotten into the Playoffs.


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