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1952boyntoncollector 08-31-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2258938)
Obviously you and I go to different night clubs. :)

guess if using 1s at THOSE clubs now and used 1s 20 years ago...no inflation

RCFire82 08-31-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2258951)
He came off as an atrocious salesperson in that video. Some melodrama too. Told a horrible version of the story to boot, leaving out details and telling things out of order. Not a good look.

Great observation ☝️.
At the 7min mark he stated, "I'm no brain surgeon." Glad he clarified for everyone, I was thinking maybe...

G1911 08-31-2022 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2258995)
There is some vague reference to texts being exchanged but Gizmo did not elaborate, for whatever reason. He did allude to the fact that he texted the alleged thief telling him he wants his cards back or the money and claims he was told that the guy would be returning Sun AM. Those texts might be the best evidence he has at proving he is owed something.

Did not think the "51 Bowman Mantle Ice Cream Line" theft tale could ever be topped but Gizmo's story almost makes 25% of the 51 Mantle story sound legit. And the 25% I am speaking to is that ice cream does exist. There was ice cream at the National that year. Mantle does have a 51 Bowman card, that is both his rookie card and a card that was not double printed. :eek: And that people attended the National. The rest is highly suspect.

He should simply produce the evidence, since he clearly seems eager to get as much publicity out of this as possible and wants to try it in the court of hobby opinion. SCD articles that are really just parroting his claim and take under the guise of an objective report, podcast appearances, just put out the evidence, which he claims to have, if there's an actual crime.

Lorewalker 08-31-2022 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2259124)
He should simply produce the evidence, since he clearly seems eager to get as much publicity out of this as possible and wants to try it in the court of hobby opinion. SCD articles that are really just parroting his claim and take under the guise of an objective report, podcast appearances, just put out the evidence, which he claims to have, if there's an actual crime.

Gizmo is on a publicity tour right now. He sold both of us showing up to the trial. Still lots of holes and that video did not help his cause, imo, and certainly did not make it any more clear what actually happened. We still only have one person's side of the story. Only thing that gives me reason to pause is that he specifically accused someone of stealing from him and gave us his name. That guy has not made any effort to clear his name, that we know of.

G1911 08-31-2022 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2259132)
Gizmo is on a publicity tour right now. He sold both of us showing up to the trial. Still lots of holes and that video did not help his cause, imo, and certainly did not make it any more clear what actually happened. We still only have one person's side of the story. Only thing that gives me reason to pause is that he specifically accused someone of stealing from him and gave us his name. That guy has not made any effort to clear his name, that we know of.

Heck, I'll attend the defamation case if Porter sues him for slander too. The comedic potential here is so high.

There may well have been some sort of robbery; he's really doubling down hard and could face consequences if falsely and undeniably falsely claiming this man stole from him. I ain't no lawyer or a smart feller, but I'm pretty sure my lawyer would advise me to keep my mouth shut publicly at this point still. I hope he comes out at some point and gives his version. An accusation, presented with no evidence, and with no account from the other side, is not much to go on.

Lorewalker 08-31-2022 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2259135)
Heck, I'll attend the defamation case if Porter sues him for slander too. The comedic potential here is so high.

Oh my! That would have to be live streamed. We might want secure rights now.

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2259135)
There may well have been some sort of robbery; he's really doubling down hard and could face consequences if falsely and undeniably falsely claiming this man stole from him. I ain't no lawyer or a smart feller, but I'm pretty sure my lawyer would advise me to keep my mouth shut publicly at this point still. I hope he comes out at some point and gives his version. An accusation, presented with no evidence, and with no account from the other side, is not much to go on.

Yeah at this point Gizmo is all in.

Eric72 08-31-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2259157)
Oh my! That would have to be live streamed. We might want secure rights now.

The revenue generated from such a live stream might eclipse the supposed value of the allegedly stolen cards.

G1911 08-31-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2259157)
Oh my! That would have to be live streamed. We might want secure rights now.



Yeah at this point Gizmo is all in.

I may get arrested, charged and tried for smuggling in a camera and streaming the proceedings. It would probably be worth it. Charging $10 a stream I'll have a nice profit after my legal bills.



Because someone always takes it literally: This is a joke and I do not advocate breaking courtroom rules or contempt of court.

Eric72 08-31-2022 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2259161)
I may get arrested, charged and tried for smuggling in a camera and streaming the proceedings...[/I]

Try those spy glasses with a camera and mic built into the frame. :cool:

G1911 08-31-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2259164)
Try those spy glasses with a camera and mic built into the frame. :cool:

Brilliant! You've just earned an executive producer credit on the movie version.

parkplace33 04-04-2023 08:11 AM

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but guess who is set up at the National again this year:

https://nsccshow.com/assets/admin/pd...ers3-27-23.pdf

Question... do dealers ever get banned from the show? Or is it once you are in, you are always in?

jayshum 07-16-2024 09:01 AM

I ran across this article in case anyone is interested in how this case got resolved:

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...case-resolved-

Hxcmilkshake 07-16-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2448269)
I ran across this article in case anyone is interested in how this case got resolved:



https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/n...case-resolved-

So he never got the cards back?

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jayshum 07-16-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake (Post 2448271)
So he never got the cards back?

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Good question. There aren't many details in the article. It says he paid $10,000 in restitution but no mention of returning the cards.

conor912 07-16-2024 12:17 PM

Didn’t you hear? This is America. No one’s held accountable for anything anymore.

jingram058 07-16-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2448316)
Didn’t you hear? This is America. No one’s held accountable for anything anymore.

That depends...

Republicaninmass 07-16-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2448316)
Didn’t you hear? This is America. No one’s held accountable for anything anymore.

Probably had something happen during his childhood


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