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July Sacramento Antiques Fair
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Here's my haul from yesterday at the Sacramento Antiques Fair...the wrestling trophy was the main find...1940 is pretty late for my collection...but it was only the second figural wrestling trophy I've ever seen if I recall...besides the other one I have...which is a c1930 drop dead bronze by a big name sculptor...beyond rare...awarded to a Williams College graduate...story for another time...The Vitalis is for a friend and the map I'll probably put on ebay...can't find another example...it was a mail in premium...The wrestling trophy was awarded to the Fry Institute team of Chattanooga...An interesting organization...not a school...but sort of a YMCA type endeavor...no longer around...I found some photos on line of their weightlifters club...I made fast work of the fair, gone by 7:45 to a motorcycle swap meet on the other side of town....zeroed out though... https://stories.chattanoogamemory.com/stories/587 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/T7IaNj.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/S6Y9ZI.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4aL95r.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/OZ7Lsa.jpg |
Trophy Research Jackpot
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Many people would look at this trophy cup won by the Betty II and dismiss it as a nice little trophy…but what’s the big deal…However it’s important to understand 1909 is quite early for powerboat racing…I’ve read it stated about 1911 is when the Hydroplane dynamic came on the scene…That is…boaters began to understand boats could go a lot faster when engines got powerful enough to lift the bow so the boat went over the water not thru it…I would speculate the Betty II may have been on the cusp of the introduction of the hydroplane…But it wasn’t just the Delaware River Club still trying to figure it out…the whole world was going thru that learning curve in 1909… But back to the trophy…I was very happy to find it…..it’s the earliest powerboat race trophy I own…I went to research it and got a real surprise when I noticed the adjoining article that I had never seen before was about the Ilys…which I have a bronze statue of…So it was a double whammy research payoff…The Ilys bronze is another never seen…It’s the only bronze statue of a yacht I’ve ever seen from that early…and American to boot…There is a whole whole lot about the Ilys I don’t have time to go into…it’s been a while since I did the research but I remember I did talk on the phone to a retired attorney who was part of the Whitaker family…He told me his family had at one time owned the Athletics Baseball Club…and if I recall the Whitaker family owned the largest fabric mill in Philadelphia back in the day…don’t quote me but it was something like that… https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/UfhfOK.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/mDzgdn.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/IT1R7P.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cohjsu.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/p7Ug5W.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/BYrL14.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/KPhWAl.jpg |
great stuff still waiting on the reality show
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^^^^^ the boat names in the first column sound like what I hear when I take our dogs to agility trials. :p
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c1938 Multi Sport Tin
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Picked this up this afternoon trolling ebay...got 1938 written all over it...one of the nicer multi sport tins I've seen...great blue...nice graphics...Now the question....can I squeeze one more little 2 3/4" x 2" tin in the line up...see last photo... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/QPxsse.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/r0jrmk.jpg |
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Just get a bigger cabinet. Problem solved.
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more on tins
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See that "Pop Smith" tin at top left...if you want to read about an interesting tin see the feature I did in the link above...scroll towards bottom... Thanks Hank...and Jewish Collector...Adam thanks...easier said than done, time and space...I have a lot of other tins to go in a new case...one of these days when I get time... A few months ago I won a number of Euro sports tins off ebay...see below...I watched them close one at a time as I was walking around the Sacramento Antiques Fair...lost some won some...one l lost that I wish I got was the last red multi-sport one... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/7PIMD9.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SnM6Fz.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6bl6VN.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/a1BVGD.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/vFQnJZ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/UmyALH.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/38GiTI.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/iMfmwM.jpg |
Die-Cut Boat Sign
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Any original vintage die-cut boat advertising sign would be rare so I was v happy to find this one...Been a while since I researched it but as I recall this Chris-Craft knock off company didn't last but a few years...incredible condition... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4DCWpG.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/C40Tts.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Vap8J6.jpg Prices of boat signs have become remarkable...This Chris-Craft one below would be at the top of the heap...I spotted it in a video of a car collection...managed to take a freeze frame of it and blew it up to get a better look...about fell over....never seen anything like it...I messaged the poster to ask about it....if it was for sale or what ever...said it was sold...I came back with tell me more...said he bought it at the Turlock Calif auto swap meet...and it was so wiped out couldn't read it...said he had it outside on the side of his house and a friend came over and was looking at it and goes ...do you know this says Chris-Craft...eyeballed it harder and sure enough...got it restored....sold it for $45,000.00... Story goes on...the next Turlock I see this pickup truck not unloaded...full of signs...so I'm talking to the guy and told him about this sign...guy says yeah I'm the one that sold it...I said where'd it come from...said he got it in Sacramento and it was out in a field near a marina of the Sacramento river...if I recall he said he tried to buy it for a while and was finally able get it... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XggHQZ.jpg |
1911 Motorcycle Pano
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/KwJ8WP.jpg Went to the monthly Alameda Point Antiques Fair yesterday...got in at 6am and headed straight for a dealer who I never know what he'll have...and blam....saw this 1911 panoramic photo of the Los Angeles Motorcycle Club lined up at Venice Beach California...I already have a remarkably similar panoramic of motorcycles at Venice by the same photographer West Coast Art Co...Los Angeles has always been the place to be for motorcycle riding...great weather all year... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/BiAx5a.jpg ...so may use this as a trade or sell it...the price tag stated the buildings or building in the background burned down shortly after the photo was taken...that's gonna take some research to confirm...Really needs a black frame... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/kNt5wC.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zlUx1n.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/iBGJf6.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/csp5QQ.jpg Then I spotted this c1900 ball style barbell...very rarely do you find them...I got a big one at Alameda in 2016...This is a rare 23" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/WMaDXM.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/k8H4Qc.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/i4L4ut.jpg |
Let's see the barbell, Carlton!!
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And you thought finding room for your sport-grip was gonna be tough…
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Yup… good luck hanging that from the ceiling!
Awesome barbell…. Just like you used to see depicted in cartoons of the 60s. And it was always held by a completely bald strongman with a black handlebar mustache. Nice find! |
Marathon Coffee Tin
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This came today...never seen another...more useless information... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/F1G384.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/HCIYp0.jpg |
Stained Glass
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Here's my latest greatest...Now this would be a perfect example of you just don't know what's out there...never would I have imagined such a piece...it's my first stained glass in 35 years collecting..I'm waiting to discuss cleaning it with a stained glass expert...very tempting to start in as it was sitting in a basement 35 years or so..came out of Detroit...I bought the 1987 book "Discovering Stained Glass in Detroit"...to see if I can ID who made it...it's on the way... The three biggest names in early powerboats in the United States were Chris-Craft…Hacker Craft…Dodge…and Gar Wood…all from the Great Lakes/Detroit region…There were some very formidable Canadian boat makers on the other side the lake as well… Ditchburn…Greavette…and Minett to name a few…not that I know much about them…Horace Dodge Jr was the son of Horace Dodge Sr. who with his brother John started Dodge Brothers Automobiles…Jr. was a party animal with a life that reflected it…Jr.’s Dodge Boat company was killed off by the depression in 1936…his father was one of the biggest yachtsmen of the day…had a whole string of huge ones…. At this point we can only speculate the who what why this stained glass panel was produced…Horace Jr. could have had it made but seems like someone of his means would have ordered something bigger…Perhaps it was a gift someone had made for him…and it hung in his den…The art quality of the boat and faces are so well defined I would almost bet it was done by a professional artist…As well the details of the boat are too exact…I see two air intake cowls above the engine compartment area…I clearly see two tie down cleats…a cooling water discharge port of some sort…what looks like a bow light at the front…between the tie down cleats is some kind of object I can’t make out…almost look like a fishing rod holder…but seemingly in the wrong place…The shadowing of the coats the two men are wearing is so well done I would speculate it would take a professional artist to execute…If it was given as a gift…it would likely have been from some wealthy playmate who would have likely had it made at the top stained glass shop in Detroit…which appears to have been the Detroit Stained Glass Works on West Fort Street…Once that book Discovering Stained Glass in Detroit by Nola Huse Tutag arrives perhaps will help I.D. the artist… The best Dodge Boats history site in the world is http://www.thatoldboat.com/Dodge-Boa...-Factories-Det ...there are tons of photos of the boats and factory from back in the day. The operator/owner Steve Martini has done a great job of preserving the history of the company...along with first hand accounts of pioneer research trips on foot to locate the buildings...don't miss it... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jWzbyJ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OYfikh.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QhgqiZ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/isyKJQ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/yJ3KE4.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1rtrEZ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/mYj3HK.jpg |
Great find Carlton...Your ability to continuously dig out lost treasures amazes me. I think that the real treasure in a lot of your finds is the research you do. It sure turns up a lot of interesting information and reading and mostly lost to history.
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Hey thanks Bill...yeah I like looking into stuff...It's kind of useless information...but not really as this stuff takes you a lot of places you'd have never seen...Like I've always said it's not just about getting stuff but the people you meet and places you see...This stained glass piece is all very new to me and I'm still learning about it...over the years I've seen a smattering of sports related stained glass...I recall a large polo player and I think a golfer...
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I love all this stuff but I might boycott this thread until we get our reality show that we deserve for this collection and the behind the scenes of collecting it all
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Great Jeff where do I sign...you can be my agent...
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I kind of stand by my drunken post but it was unnecessary. :p
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Cricket Sign
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This was a heck of a find last Saturday...you can read the shocking truth about it on my site...along with a bunch of other recent pickups -carlton www.SportsAntiques.com |
^^^^^ That's creepy! :p
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Damn that’s cool Carlton!
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Hey thanks clint..its one of the most incredible advertising signs I've ever seen...v progressive for a late 19th-early 20th century advertising sign...
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I always enjoy reading your quests on how you obtain your purchases. Did the antique store know they had an original cricket advertisement piece?
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FYI...I posted an addenda on my website tonight to my Cricket Sign feature...I copied and pasted an email I got from renown advertising tine dealer Nigel Scott in England who shed some new light on the subject...see it at the bottom of the feature... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/BvCN0A.jpg |
Hey Carlton...I just got back from a lengthy trip and catching up with your posts. Like you I am not a Cricket collector, but that tin advertising sign is a stone-cold killer. The addenda to the article on your website is amazing.
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Latest Feature
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Please know I have posted my latest “Sports Antique of the Week” on my homepage of SportsAntiques.com…it’s titled “ World’s Most Boring Looking Postcard”… The feature is about James Stuart Blackton…a c1912 pioneer powerboat racer…He was one of the first of the sport right at the transition period from dispersion type boats to the hydroplane… https://www.sportsantiques.com/ The feature can be seen at the website above Enjoy -carlton |
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Badass motorcycle photo, Carlton. Great image!
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Love it! What’s it say on the tank?
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Hey Thanks Scott...good to hear...
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Very cool. it reminds me of a family picture I have of my gr-gr-grandparents. I only have a copy, so it is not as clear as the original.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c8b2c8b144.jpg
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Hey thanks Doug...working hard on a whopper feature on 1926 desk paperweight...will keep you posted...
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Amazing stuff as always
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/0oSCzm.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ZDkwIx.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9l4wtp.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/LnnGOo.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/IcAXVU.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/MQBEYU.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Foof5d.jpg https://sportsantiques.com/1926_gar_...aperweight.htm Please see link above to my latest story on a 1926 paperweight featuring a figural of Gar Wood’s Miss America V powerboat. The Miss America V won the Harmsworth trophy in 1926. The feature covers many aspects of the paperweight including: 1. The life and times of the famous industrialist Gar Wood. 2. A timeline of the fateful 1926 Harmsworth race won by Miss America V. 3. A summary of Detroit industrial culture c1911 4. A summarized history of the Harmsworth race 5. Speculation scenarios of why there are only eight known examples of the paperweight. 6. A look at the 1926 cost to produce Miss America V, with an inflation conversion to what it would cost today. 7. The paperweights artistic importance and place among powerboat collectibles As well the story features more than 40 photos. Please enjoy… Kindly -Carlton |
Wow wow and wow.
The great and unique items keep a coming Congrats and keep them coming |
The paper weight and your research are amazing. Congrats on another great find!
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Jeff and Rob...glad you like the story...thanks for your support...
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So cool! Love your collecting niches outside the usual "major" sports. Do have any kind of fix on how many other collectors are going for boat, motorcycle, auto, etc., racing, and the other areas of collectibles you are constantly picking up neat pieces from?
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Great stuff Carlton. Always amazed at your research and finds.
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New Feature Posted - 1916 Harvard Schedule Poster
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Dear Friends… Please know I have posted a new feature on my site SportsAntiques.com….The story is about a 1916 Harvard baseball schedule broadside poster which announces all the teams they would play for the season. The first pre-season game was against the Red Sox…Guess who was playing for the Red Sox in 1916…his initials were BR…Click the link above to learn the shocking truth… -carlton https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/cLbyVJ.jpg |
Billy Ripken?
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Carlton, as we discussed the 1916 Harvard broadside schedule is beyond cool. Your flushing out the details through your research makes it really special. I have to admit, I like the Hendee Indian drum as well.
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^^^ Very cool. “Knowing” you, you’ll drum up the backstory on the Indian piece.
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Carlton - Are you taking the trip to the National as usual ?
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few pick ups
here's a few recent pickups...got off the boat thing for a while...hopped on cycling...working on a 1880's cycling bugle feature...
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Your stuff always makes me smile, Carlton. Thanks for sharing!
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Carlton awesome pickups
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Your stuff is so cool! Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you all for kind words...don't know how I left this out but just got this last week...should arrive soon...surfing figurals are extremely rare...got it from Ryan Sims...he gave big $$$ at an Orange county calif estate sale...He's right there in surf country and only one he's seen for sale in 20 years....
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Finally
Finally I said something...out of frustration...
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Good job Carlton...
Long overdue, and hopefully if they hear from enough of us, they might change back to the old (and far superior) search function. They are the masters of "fixing" something that ain't even broke! BTW, same holds true for searching "vintage" pennants (vintage was intentionally put in quotes). I have completely given up weeding through endless overpriced/over-produced common modern crap to (maybe) find one that's worthwhile. I know that I'm now probably missing a few, but my free time (and the limited time I have left on this planet) just doesn't merit the agony and futility. |
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What a beauty! They look amazing, all grouped together. And that Lucky Curve Tin has really shot up in value. Congrats!
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