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In response-I recovered years ago from a lost item that was well documented.....often times it is correct that is tough to recover from insurance, HOWEVER you need to file a claim just to attempt to collect o/w you get NOTHING, as long as you have not filed excessive claims....and if you had an original receipt of buying the card or any expensive item, the PSA cert #, and an original police report and an affadavit from that "2nd party" that this was stolen at a show... there is a good chance a reputable insurance company WILL pay...You have to do your homework and be prudent, persistent & honest.

agree with you that you do have to put in a claiim to have a chance and to avoid being denied for not having timely notice but again not sure what you mean by 'reputable insurance company' if its homeowners insurance..here we go again... insurance policies have changed over time but would need to know more info than 'recovered for lost item'.

i do know they sell collectible insurance......usually when there is that type of coverage that would mean that more common types of insurance, ie. homeowners, do not. Another example, rental insurance.

Also beware that just filing a claim, even if its turned down, still goes on your claims history for all insurance potentially. Maybe that impacts future premiums, maybe not. If no claim no risk though...

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There are certain insurance companies especially here in NY, that are less than stellar, most larger national companies will pay on a claim if very well documented and as long as your policy does not state explicit limitations...there are some "localized regional companies" that are not as easy to collect from regarding personal merchandise.

Either way, a police report is MANDATORY

The lure of a triple scoop waffle cone can be quite distracting

Probably the best line I ever read on Net54!! :D

I laughed when I read this too because those ice cream cones were damn good! I got one day 2 and meant to get another one day 4 but didn't get around to it.

Update, Net 54 has all of my current info and I have no grudge against anyone. I simply stated my opinion based on personal experiences. Sincerely, Lisa Prodeline

Oh boy, here we go round 2.....

Either you have some knowledge about the facts of the case, which you have not shared, or you don't in which case your "opinion" is completely meaningless speculation. IMO, of course. And if you aren't even going to state the basis for your "opinion" that's completely unfair to Earl and irresponsible. IMO, again.

C Vader never really stated her (assumption) reason for accusing Earl either. She allegedly saw him with Greg and another person in the group passing around the card, but never said why she thought Earl and not the other person took the card.

Inquiring minds would like to know (publicly)!!

It's disgraceful IMO, in case that didn't come through before lol. In my opinion, if you're going to accuse someone of a crime, just putting your name by it is not enough, you should have to state your basis.

BS.
And next do you get to interrogate them and make that mandatory too? I can't imagine that kind of situation. Putting your full name next to it is the way we have always held people accountable. IF those taken to task don't want to say anything that is their prerogative.

I think that's fine where you're expressing an opinion, attacking someone's character, etc. To me, accusing someone of a specific crime in writing is in a different category.

What are the odds that the one card you have on you at the moment...and presumably multiple people have their eyes on...get's stolen?

Oh come on...Two girls mad at Earl? You don't have to be rocket scientist. ;)

So wouldn't that cast doubt on the OP? Where's Oliver Stone to sort this all out for us?

Sports card/memorabilia collectors are exceptionally paranoid...it's a known fact and proven here many times over.

It is weird, no question. Women never post here and two (one confirmed) show up on this thread?

+1

Here's a crazy idea. . . .

Next time you want to go to a show to sell and have some really valuable stuff in your case . . . bring along your brother in law, or a neighbor, or some other dude from the corner bar who used to be a cop and pay him $50 for the day and offer to buy him lunch. Tell him to politely watch every interaction you have with your rare cards like a hawk. Guy will sit there and smile and just watch everything. And if he doesn't like a situation that's developing will ask for the cards back pronto.

I am guessing that will reduce your likelihood of being ripped off to essentially zero.

Something doesn't add up

The victim corroborated the "female" posters version of events at the time the Mantle was stolen.

The victim then says he reached out to her but got no response and thinks shes a troll.

But he agreed it went down the way only someone who was there could say it went down.

The victim also wrote it "disappeared" and didn't want to call it "thievery"

A different "female" comes forward and accuses one of the people in the group.

A Mantle rookie was passed around a "sticky fingered" ice cream stand and walked away from by the owner?

I think we are getting a fraction of the story. I love who good who dunnit.
I hate to see someone lose any valuable, let alone a Mantle friggin rookie, but we are missing some important pieces to the story.
This isnt the typical stranger steals your valuable when you aren't looking case.
But i hope you get your card back.

I always thought the card disappeared, and someone tried to sell with a photo via text. Then they alerted Greg they were approached to buy the stolen card. This is why they were obsessing about the image on the phone. If anyone saw the card, and was able to snatch it, they'd know what it looked like, and didnt need to be reminded by a photo. The photo would be from a third party saying, "hey bud, this guy is trying to sell me your card"

Meanwhile NotVader, who came across as a non collector/outsider making jokes about her step uncle collecting dog food cards, posts that she has 85 t206 cards.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...postcount=2128

Nice to see you posting again!!

In defense of C. Vader, (s)he was not trying to pose as a non collector but to mock those collectors who collect cards issued by dog food manufacturers. Clearly T206s are where his/her collection is at.

I suppose, but hard to believe any real collector would mock Red Heart collectors.

Ditto.

I was being completely facetious. I was very skeptical of his/her first post. (S)he knew of Earl but played off as an outsider in the hobby with the dog food label comment? How many veteran collectors know Earl let alone would id him in a line waiting to get ice cream?

Whomever is playing the role of C. Vader needs to study the script better or the writer needs to be fired for story/character inconsistencies.

Ah OK lol.

I thought maybe the step uncle knew him and that explained that part of it, but what's the point of trying to figure this mess out, all the protagonists are behaving strangely including the OP if you ask me.

All of them I'd think. He's pretty recognizable

I have 6 years in so that either means I have not attained veteran status or I am the exception to your statement. Have no idea who Earl is, what he looks like, where he worked nor why he no longer works for his prior employer.

So let me ask you if you find it odd that some who would state, 'I cant believe you guys are collecting Dog Food Labels LOL!' would also know of Earl, be able to spot him in line getting ice cream, know he worked for SGC and know he left SGC? I find it very odd but maybe I am just odd.

6 years, you barely scratched the surface! Just kidding


If you've submitted cards to sgc in the past you'd probably know him. He was the guy who was always there and had some distinguishing features and demeanor

It's not this guy is it?

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Lol, maybe a few years older, and darker hair and mustache

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This is obvious: the butler did it.

I was thinking Colonel Mustard.

A young gal recently posted in a FB group I am in how she left her phone in a bathroom, then someone stole it. I really want it back!!! Sounds more like she lost her phone to me. These situation kinda reminded me of each other...

What's the latest? Was the card found or what?

What's the hurry?

Curious response. I'm guessing if it was your card, you'd be in a hurry.

If there were a "facetious" emoji available here, it would have been appended. I was referring to the large amount replies to the thread as weighted against the amount of first-person accounts. Maybe that was understood by most(?)

According to my research, 96.23% of dogs consumed only the dog food and not the card.

Therefore boarding kennel owners should be the “elite” Red Heart collectors.

Bow Wow WoW

How about a cool ad?

That's fantastic, i'd frame that bad boy

Please stop all this "dog food" talk. It's making me hungry.

Bulldog bulldog

An interesting thing about Red Hearts is that while printed in 1954, they were available through mail-in offers through the early 1970s. Indeed I wonder if any of the cards were later printed.

This card is still missing. Please continue to keep an eye out. Thanks.

- Greg

This card has still not been recovered. If there is any info, please PM me or make it public. Thanks in advance.

BTW...BIG reward still offered

Greg, I would add the 1951 Bowman Mantle cert # again for those that go straight to the last page of an older thread. Hope it turns up!

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This card has still not been recovered since it was stolen. It could be cracked
out raw or in a different holder. It has to turn up somewhere eventually.

A LARGE cash reward is still available for any info that leads to its recovery.

Very sorry it's still not recovered. Most likely in a different holder. Keeping my fingers crossed and best of luck!

I assume you keep checking sales of comparably graded ones?

or 6's that are a little narrow top to bottom?

Look for it graded an 8 in Brent's next auction.

If the Internet Card Detectives can find 1/64 of and inch missing from the back
of a Tom Brady rookie, locating this card should be easy, no?

Can somebody post Mickey on Blowout? I don't have an account.

I will email one of the guys for you.

If you have a quality back scan that you can share it could definitely help in identifying your card if someone tries to sell it, or has sold it, provided they also have a quality back scan in their listing.

$5000 reward to anyone who provides info leading to the recovery of this card.

Thanks in advance.

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...so absorbed in this story my coffee grew cold....wow ...just wow...

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I just reread this entire thread and noticed one thing. Nobody thought about asking the person selling ice cream whether they saw anything.

I heard it was Colonel Mustard in the convention hall with the ice cream cone.

Hey Peter hope all is well. Some time back I was able to identify that there was at least two separate print runs. Type 1 and type 2. Mantle was used to identify the two. The light blues were type 1 and the dark blues are type two. There are also print marks and alignments that show the differences. I will see if I can get those posted for you to look at.

Type one and Type two 54 Red Hearts

Read through this entire thread. Really sorry you've gone through this Greg. Don't have much to contribute in terms of helping search for the card, it's just a terrible reality that there's some extremely dishonest people, with no sense of morals, that steal.

All I can ask is that everyone keep an eye out. It will inevitably pop up somewhere eventually.

I hope so for your sake, but it seems to me the most likely scenario is that it would have been broken out of the holder making it untraceable whether it was sold raw, or resubbed.

Yeah, but every card is basically as unique as a fingerprint. It could be found. Not out of the realm of possibility.

Well, some cards do have fingerprints

Not even a back scan.

I can’t imagine all the emotions that you have experienced since the theft occurred. I wish you luck. Finding the card is obviously the first hurdle, but potentially not the tallest.

The reason is the card has probably changed owners several times since the theft. I doubt the original thief is still holding the card. Moreover, the card is probably now encased in a SGC or BVG holder which will (1) make it more difficult to find the card and (2) make it difficult to prove the current owner is not a bona fide/good faith purchaser.

The current possessor is potentially innocent and a bona fide/good faith owner. If so, some states have laws that protect these purchasers/owners. This is especially true if the person that sold him/her the card is long gone. However, that person may also have been an innocent bona fide/ good faith purchaser. The theory is why should the tenth owner down the chain bear the loss if he/she had no idea the card was originally stolen and purchased it in good faith.

The current owner now potentially has a good legal title to the card. So, even if you can somehow locate the card, you then have to fight with the current owner. No one is going to voluntarily hand over a five figure card without a legal battle.

Did anything ever pan out from all the great info you got from Mathew, I mean NotVader?

Well over a decade ago, I found and purchased that ad on ebay. I plan to have the ad framed along with the 33 cards. I almost there, three cards to go!

When I saw this post months later, I thought it had been found. What a bummer to find it still hasn't been found. I hope whoever has it, gets paid back with karma.

That's news to me, I thought the old rule of nemo dat quod non habet (noone can give what he does not have, meaning a thief cannot convey good title) was still pretty universally followed in the US.