Like a joke - if you have to explain it......

That is definitely not Goldin's 8 figure announcement.

I've think I have it!
 

Rumor is that they found a semi truckload of items that were being sold by Goldin on HSN 20 years ago. They are easily worth 8 figures.

Apparently he's not announcing it until September 6 now.

There's a fine line between building anticipation, and annoying the hell out of people...

Hey they must do what is in the best interest for the consignor :rolleyes:

Bingo!

The way Goldin has built this up... claiming it will hit 8 figures... there is no way we will be disappointed. It's going to be something incredible, but I have no idea what

Fact Check: Did Goldin claim it will go for 8 figures, or is that just something said in jest in this thread that has been perpetuated?

Edit: Not to discount it, but 2nd hand.

I'm more interested in what the Buyers Premium will be as opposed to the item itself. Goldin is going to get a nice chunk of change.

Nothing second hand about it. It is from Goldin himself from the forum thread you quoted earlier.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=70398

Quote:

...we are not able to disclose the item yet, however it will be the first sports related collectible to have sold for 8 figures, no question.

Indeed.

Goldin
 

Sports related could be anything...my first thought was a car. Maybe first Indy 500 or NASCAR winning car?

8 figures? If racing, would most likely be a vintage Ferrari or Porsche from one of the storied races of yesteryear.

If I was the kind of guy who had a spare $10M laying around, I can't think of any sports memorabilia item I'd want to spend it on. Unless it was something with great appreciation potential. Will be curious to see what it is, but sounds like it's going to be the sort of thing that hopefully gets displayed in a museum by the new owner.

That's what I was thinking. For $10M I'd rather own a Monet, but who knows....there's probably more than one billionaire out there who is sick of looking at of all his Monets.

I bet all the guys who have been passing on auctions for decades are very excited to spend the 10M nest egg they've been saving for that must have piece.

This is what I was thinking, except a building. Maybe a childhood home, museum, or old stadium/arena.

figured it out
 

Ringside tickets to the mayweather vs mcgregor fight

If it's what I think it is, see prior post and link, and the provenance is solid, then I do think it's going to go very high. I think it potentially could attract people who don't normally buy sports memorabilia as it has a broader historical import. Whether it goes as high as Ken is predicting, remains to be seen.

Maybe it's the Mets franchise? I guess if you have 2 or 3 bidders who really want the team, it could hit 8 figures.

If one takes "most historically significant" seriously it suggests to me something relating to Jackie Robinson, Jesse Owens, or perhaps the birth of a major sport.

Nothing Jesse Owens would even plausibly go that high IMO.

Plus one of his 1936 gold medals sold in 2013. And I guess heritage is supposed to have another 2 for sale eventually.

The keep saying historic and national history so I keep coming back to Jackie Robinson.


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And if I am right about which Jackie Robinson item, I think it likely would attract some wealthy bidders well beyond the usual sports memorabilia crowd and that may be why Ken is predicting such a high number.

I know people have hyped the 1946/1947 Contracts of Robinson because non like most American Documents (ie Emancipation Proclomation, Constitution) there is only one. It still is hard to believe, though, that it would sell more than George Washington's personal, annotated, copy of the Constitution, the proposed Bill of Rights and acts of the first Congress which set a record for an American document when it sold in 2012 through Christies (Sold for 9.8 Million).

I would be interested to see where the 1946/1947 Contracts of Robinson ended up none the less and I would still watch the auction with anticipation.

In the article I posted there were holes in the provenance -- two anonymous links in the chain of custody. It will be interesting to see -- assuming I am guessing right about the item -- if Ken can plug those. Or whether authenticity will be based primarily on the document itself.

A 250 Testa Rossa sold for 16 million in 2011.

So much for the "first sports related collectible to sell for 8 figures"

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Jackie Robinson's first contract with the Brooklyn Dodgers?

Well, if we distill down these 20 pages, seems like many of us keep circling back to the same few (historic) pieces related to Jackie Robinson, and his MLB debut (contract, uniform, etc). I guess we'll find out soon.

Unless we don't...

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That is my guess.

IF it is that, is it really an 8 figure item? Just curious......

I thought that you guessed a Babe Ruth uniform?

I changed my guess after Ken mentioned historical significance, and linked an article about the Jackie contract.

Gotcha. Did not see that.

I bet its the pen he used to sign the contract and a branch from the original tree that became the contract.

Say, isn't that a young Branch Rickey? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...98247d1845.gif

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As long as there are least five zeroes at the start of the 8 figures.

Brian

Greg, I just wrote the same thing to Peter yesterday in an email. The contract would be a remarkable item but I cannot wrap my head around it being a 10 million dollar item.

Maybe he's including the 2 figures AFTER the decimal point?

Uncut full T206 sheet with Wagner....
If you cut it down you have a '10'.

This might've been touched on, but I saw in a Heritage magazine that they're auctioning off Jackie's first jersey from his rookie year.

if thats what this golden goose is...no way it fetches 8 figure imo.

I think they are selling Michael Jordan's Mansion that Mike used to live at in Illinois..... North of Chicago or something

September 6th is now here.



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The email I got said they were auctioning a jersey used in his rookie season on Jackie Robinson day but not his first jersey (I am pretty certain but can't find the email now). They are expecting 2 million +

Edit: found link:
http://intelligentcollector.com/jack...-17--tem090517

So, is there a press conference happening now for the announcement?

Multiple probably.

Today at 10EST.

Quote:

we are going to be making the announcement to the world in a televised press conference at 10 am EDT Wednesday September 6th

- http://www.auctionreport.com/consign...ment-deadline/

This is a Heritage article, not Goldin....

Who in the world will be watching at 10pm. Did they say what channel this will be on?

James G

Where are you getting 10 PM, it's AM.

Your comment reminds me of a Yogi'ism. Questioning who will be watching while asking the channel? :) "No one goes there anymore it's too crowded"

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10AM has come and gone...

That is correct. I was responding to a post about a Heritage auction.

"What time is it, Yogi?"

"You mean now?"


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This kinda reminds me of Y2K, I woke up and asked if the world ended while I slept.

Got UHF?

Maybe this?

https://goldinauctions.com/viewuserd...tracts-Auction

$36 million ....
Count me out .

I will take the under on that one.

I'll take the under on 10% of that one.

Yeah, contracts. Boy...he's really putting himself on the line with this one. If it comes nowhere close to $36M I would think that'd be a whole lot of egg on Goldin's face.

Jackie contracts!


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Great items but not even close to 10 million, as I stated earlier. Not the first or last time he will go out on a limb and make a fool of himself but it has obviously not hurt his ability to bring in some great consignments.

The appraisal was from an outside party, so not sure they will look bad if it doesn't go that high. But he did say $10 million so that number is tied to him.

I think there's a chance that these are a focus of history and civil rights collectors far beyond the sports world. If that is the case, it could mean far more attention than items like Ruth items would get.

I don't see it getting $10 million, but I think it is the kind of item that has a chance... At the same time, it could also go for $1 million and I would not be surprised...

I hope that it ends up being accessible to the public.

I will be a bit surprised if these don't get $10,000,000. It's two of the most important documents in the history of the United States.

Tom C

For reference, or not, a 1949 Jackie contract sold earlier this year for 275K or so.

To reiterate what I put in a previous post it is hard for me to fathom they would bring more money than George Washington's personal annotated copy of the Constitution and proposed Bill of Rights, which sold for just shy of $10mil in 2012.

If an African-American celebrity/celebrities get into a bidding war, it could.........

Wow

I don't think the appeal would be limited to African-Americans.

Maybe, but even 1 of 3 senate copies of the 13th amendment brought only (relatively speaking) 2.4mil in Sotheby's last year.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...88/lot.79.html

It isn't my job to come up with estimates, so the experts may see something I don't.

Agreed!!! Didn't mean to limit it to that.......

There is something more visceral with regard to the civil rights movement however. While the 13th amendment ended the practice of slavery, the fact that 80+ years later Jackie Robinson's introduction to professional whites only baseball was such a major event speaks to the efficacy of the 13th amendment in terms of actual civil rights in practice. These two contracts played an enormous part in pushing forward civil rights in America. They are also tied to and signed by a beloved figure in recent American history. I don't know that they will go for $10 mil. I think there is a good chance that they will if the right people know about the auction.

Tom C