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bgar3 08-16-2016 02:38 PM

1877 Boston
 
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1877 Boston team composite with Murnane correction, inscribed on back "Tim from Jake, Dec 26, 1894. (Murnane from Jacob Morse)

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:40 PM

Inscription
 
Inscription in Spalding's National Game to George Wright. The book has about 100 corrections, comments and annotations by Wright and I have attempted to attach one of my favorites.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:42 PM

Screwed up already
 
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Here are attachments noted above.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:43 PM

Spalding inscription
 
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Could not figure out how to put in 1 post, sorry.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:46 PM

Gould, Cone, Jackson
 
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Cdv of Gould by the other Warren, WS. With ovals of Fred Cone and Sam Jackson that are by JW Black and were made for the Mort Rogers scorecards, unfortunately no scorecard.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:50 PM

1871 Boston stock
 
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1871 Boston stock certificate signed by Eben Jordan (on back), founder Jordan Marsh, Ivers Adams, president and Harrison Gardner, husband of Isabella Gardner of Museum fame.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:52 PM

End for now with another book
 
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1860 edition of Ball Player's Pocket Companion, George Wright's copy.

JeremyW 08-16-2016 03:01 PM

Bruce- Amazing pieces of baseball history!

h2oya311 08-16-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyW (Post 1572941)
Bruce- Amazing pieces of baseball history!

Bruce - simply stunning! Your 19th century material is top-notch all the way! Especially your books w/ annotations...

We still have a bit of work to do to get your photos/scans up to snuff, but not a bad start!

GaryPassamonte 08-16-2016 04:16 PM

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Bruce? Some of the best stuff I've seen in some time. Thanks for posting.

I too, have a Murnane related piece.

bgar3 08-16-2016 04:40 PM

Thank you
 
Derek, I tried, thank you for pushing me. Gary, I think Murnane tried to accumulate older photos, possibly for inclusion in a planned book or guide, that never materialized. I have what I believe to be a tintype of Murnane which I will post to see if it can be confirmed somehow. I am glad you started this thread, I will try to post more later.

JeremyW 08-16-2016 04:52 PM

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I'll be forever in debt to the Net54 member who let me add this one to my collection.

JeremyW 08-16-2016 05:17 PM

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Another favorite. 1891 Beaneaters & by far the largest photo I own, somewhere around 20 inches wide.

x2drich2000 08-16-2016 05:51 PM

Not a 19th century guy normally, but fell in love with the pose and image quality as soon as I saw it. Best guess is it is Fred Rehse, but still can't figure out how a guy who played in 2 games has such a great looking cabinet and multiple N172s but, as best I've been able to determine, nothing else.

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...0Rehse%20f.jpg

DJ

shernan30 08-16-2016 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 1573005)
Not a 19th century guy normally, but fell in love with the pose and image quality as soon as I saw it. Best guess is it is Fred Rehse, but still can't figure out how a guy who played in 2 games has such a great looking cabinet and multiple N172s but, as best I've been able to determine, nothing else.



DJ


Great looking cabinet DJ. Such a clear image.

bgar3 08-17-2016 10:37 AM

Massachusett's game stereoview?
 
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Boston Common stereoview described as showing the only Massachusetts game action. Photo is by John D Heywood and published by Frank Rowell, who was Heywood's publisher from 1863 to 1865. Believe yellow mount is indication of stereoview from that time period also.

bgar3 08-17-2016 10:40 AM

Jarvis field 1869
 
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Jarvis field (Harvard), by George K Warren, with practice or game in progress. In 1869 the Red Stockings played on this field.

bgar3 08-17-2016 10:43 AM

Tim Murnane tintype?
 
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I believe this to be a tintype of Tim Murnane. Photographer is J R Applegate, Vine Street Gallery, Philadelphia. I would appreciate any help on the identification. Thank you

tennisguy 08-17-2016 11:14 AM

Tintype
 
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Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 1573262)
I believe this to be a tintype of Tim Murnane. Photographer is J R Applegate, Vine Street Gallery, Philadelphia. I would appreciate any help on the identification. Thank you

Bruce,

Interesting. I have a Joe Battin portrait tintype from the same studio and photographer. There is an interesting story behind them. I'll PM you.

joeadcock 08-17-2016 08:58 PM

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Bresnahan, Roger bottom on floor........with Lima

bmarlowe1 08-17-2016 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 1573262)
I believe this to be a tintype of Tim Murnane. Photographer is J R Applegate, Vine Street Gallery, Philadelphia. I would appreciate any help on the identification. Thank you

So - you own that tintype. I've been asked about this one. I can't eliminate the possibility that it is Murnane. One can actually make a strong argument that it's him - too many individualizing characteristics seem to match. This one is associated with another tintype claimed to depict Joe Battin - that one also appears to be correct.

bgar3 08-18-2016 06:10 AM

Thank you
 
Thank you Mark, that is very helpful. Much appreciated. Glad to hear the Battin also appears to be him, and is by same photographer.

EvilKing00 08-18-2016 06:12 AM

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Yoda 08-18-2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by joeadcock (Post 1573565)
Bresnahan, Roger bottom on floor........with Lima

I never imagined that Roger Bresnahan played ball in Peru. Learn something new every day.

FourStrikes 08-18-2016 11:59 AM

assuming it's sarcasm, but...
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1573760)
I never imagined that Roger Bresnahan played ball in Peru. Learn something new every day.

it's Lima, OHIO of the Ohio State League...

Yoda 08-18-2016 12:47 PM

Not sarcasm but, I, hoped, light humor.

h2oya311 08-18-2016 01:28 PM

who knew there were two of these floating around (another Bresnahan cabinet w/ Lima):

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...Bresnahan1.jpg

Got this cabinet as well showing Bresnahan w/ his Manistee teammates in 1895:

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...Bresnahan1.jpg

Paul S 08-18-2016 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FourStrikes (Post 1573809)
it's Lima, OHIO of the Ohio State League...

Just a hop, skip and a jump from Peru, IL. John was close enough for me;)

FourStrikes 08-18-2016 02:12 PM

upon further review...
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1573827)
Not sarcasm but, I, hoped, light humor.

light humor is *great*, but..."internet-speak"/intent can sometimes be tough to decipher - I personally saw it as what it was, but...one can never tell what someone is thinking (plenty of uninformed out there - of which I assumed you were not one of them, but...) minus the inclusion of a :)

Rob L 08-18-2016 11:23 PM

Tintype
 
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I love this 1/2 bib!

tedzan 08-19-2016 09:33 AM

Hey guys,

I must say that this gem slightly goes beyond 19th Century; however, the majority of the subjects portrayed here are 19th Century dudes.

Besides, the significance of this piece is that it represents the year that there was no Major League World Series.


1904 Eastern (International) League Champions

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...904buffalo.jpg



TED Z
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joeadcock 08-20-2016 05:51 AM

[QUOTE=h2oya311;1573854]who knew there were two of these floating around (another Bresnahan cabinet w/ Lima):

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...Bresnahan1.jpg

Derek

Is this Lima cabinet of yours you posted earlier, large?

1880nonsports 08-20-2016 04:50 PM

OJ
 
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I showed this one before but think it fits

bgar3 08-22-2016 12:16 PM

1869 sheet music
 
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1869 red stocking sheet music in a period frame.

GasHouseGang 08-22-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1880nonsports (Post 1574774)
I showed this one before but think it fits

That is so weird, how the angles are dropping cigarettes down on the girl in that image. At least they don't actually have the angels themselves smoking.:rolleyes:

h2oya311 08-22-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by joeadcock (Post 1574513)

Derek

Is this Lima cabinet of yours you posted earlier, large?

photo measures 9.5"x11" and is mounted to 11"x13". So yes, I would say it is rather large.

tedzan 08-23-2016 06:59 PM

Continuing from Posts #3 and #31 in this thread, here are the remaining 26 cards in the Goodwin Champions (N162) set.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...162boxbill.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sbike7xx_1.jpg



TED Z
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bgar3 09-03-2016 03:03 PM

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I like this thread so much I am stretching it a bit to show this painting. Although not from the 19th century, it depicts A G Spalding from the famous Warren cabinet pose. Not sure who painted or when, but it will have to serve as my Warren cabinet for now. I got it in a Hunt auction, which described it as possibly King Kelly.

bgar3 09-03-2016 03:09 PM

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One more painting, also not from 19th century, but entitled "an old timer at the bat", by Griswold Tyng, a student of Howard Pyle. It was likely painted about 1910 to 1920. I like to think the catcher's mask, which is featured is somehow connected to James Tyng. If anyone knows anything about where this appeared, or a connection between the artist and James Tyng, I would love to hear about it. I have seen his work as calendars and magazine illustration.

Yoda 09-05-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smokelessjoe (Post 1563472)
Hey Ted,

While not cards this is slightly related to your post....

I suffered a very uneasy feeling watching Mr. Rowe laboring on his bike; it must have been very hard on the testicles and he appears to be showing the strain.

Yoda 09-05-2016 11:11 AM

I know it is an old trivia question, but a good one to know: Who is the only Hof'er to appear on both the N172 and T206 sets?

z28jd 09-05-2016 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1581323)
I know it is an old trivia question, but a good one to know: Who is the only Hof'er to appear on both the N172 and T206 sets?

That would be Jake Beckley, Hugh Duffy and Clark Griffith, though I'm not sure they are one person.

FourStrikes 09-05-2016 12:42 PM

SPORTING NEWS Trade Card
 
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1880s-1890s TC of kid reading SPORTING NEWS

DS

clydepepper 09-05-2016 01:57 PM

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I may be putting this one up for sale soon:


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I got this one from a fellow board member:


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and this is another one of my favorites:


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GaryPassamonte 09-05-2016 02:05 PM

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I haven't pulled this out in awhile.

FourStrikes 09-05-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1581388)
I haven't pulled this out in awhile.

Gary:

QUICK!!!!! put it back in its drawer/vault, or otherwise ... and please kill this thread...pronto! :D - that's awesome - you win!


DS

Kawika 09-05-2016 02:49 PM

Some insane eye candy in this thread. I'll play.
Bought this 1890 cabinet from Terry Knouse at a bygone National. Sold it in the first LOTG auction. Miss it dearly.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...arge/ODay1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...arge/ODay2.jpg

My KBats collection, all two of 'em.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...Geo%20Wood.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...ge/DMcD561.jpg

Recent acquisition. Couldn't pass it up.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...%20Breslin.jpg

Have showed this before. John Ewing, younger brother of Buck, won 21 games for the Pelicans in 1887.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...hn%20Ewing.jpg

No info on this photo as to when or where. Might not be 19th century but close as dammit is to swearing and too cool to not show. Maybe Mr Kreindler or some other genius can opine as to which stadium this is. Those columns look familiar. Pittsburgh?
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...ans%201911.jpg

FourStrikes 09-05-2016 02:56 PM

may NO be 19th century.
 
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I could be wrong, but...just a guess:

Yoda 09-05-2016 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1581358)
That would be Jake Beckley, Hugh Duffy and Clark Griffith, though I'm not sure they are one person.

Absolutely right. For some reason just thought of Duffy, as I recently picked up a nice T206 of him and forgot about Jake and Clark. Sorry, guys. Is the N172 Griffith his RC? I know copies not cheap.

Kawika 09-05-2016 03:17 PM

The reason I guessed Pittsburg was due to a painting that Graig did of Honus Wagner which turns out to have been at Chicago's West Side Grounds. A further look on the internet revealed that the Cubs played there from 1893 to 1915 Link. Probably what would be more telling are the clothes styles depicted. Were these grown-up Terrors of America wearing high collars and bowler hats in the 1890s? Possibly.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_..._Side_Park.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...rica-Their.jpg

FourStrikes 09-05-2016 03:33 PM

...
 
nice catch, David...and I LOVE the 'Terrors" set, even the non-sports versions...

p.s. - awesome Kreindler!

DS

phlflyer1 09-05-2016 06:59 PM

Don't have a lot of 19th century items in my collection but here are a couple that I can share.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1sd87z0c.jpg

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/...psd1pb2mag.jpg

FourStrikes 09-05-2016 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by phlflyer1 (Post 1581514)
Don't have a lot of 19th century items in my collection but here are a couple that I can share.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1sd87z0c.jpg

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/...psd1pb2mag.jpg

nice...Tobin trade cards are great, and the B&W are tougher than the color ones.

DS

bmarlowe1 09-05-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FourStrikes (Post 1581417)
I could be wrong, but...just a guess:

The postcard depicts West Side grounds in a construction state that indicates the late 1908 season or later.

The support posts in the photo at the bottom of post 207 don't appear to be a good match for West Side Grounds.


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