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bnorth 01-15-2017 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1620682)
The action in thon stands/back of the image while I expect is not easy to paint adds a lot to the painting for me. The guy in front with the white shirt and tie is a Jays TV broadcaster that I have met a few times. It would be cool to be able to pick yourself out in the background of a notable photo.

I have seen a lot of people have themselves added to paintings. Maybe it is not too late to hit Graig up and be in the stands.:)

baseball tourist 01-16-2017 11:07 PM

Perhaps?
 
Looks like Jose may sign back with the Jays for one year plus an option.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluej...n-griffin.html

baseball tourist 01-18-2017 11:10 AM

He's back!
 
One year deal at $18m with two option years at $17m and $20m respectively. Not what he was looking for but I for one am happy to have him back.

MartyFromCANADA 01-18-2017 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1621761)
One year deal at $18m with two option years at $17m and $20m respectively. Not what he was looking for but I for one am happy to have him back.

Make that 2. Go Jays!

GKreindler 01-19-2017 04:06 PM

Hey all,

Here's another Jose update.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...svtcxsbxg.jpeg

It's only a small section of the painting, as that was the main portion that I was working on today. I had mentioned in a previous post that it was important for me to have the background not only sit back - behind Bautista, of course - but also to have it seem like it's receding along the general slop of the grandstand. The way I've started going in that direction involves making the figures in that first row or two a bit tighter than everyone else that's above/behind them. They're by no means refined, but you can see a bit more nuance in them than the people higher up in the painting. So, in that regard, I think it's getting somewhere.

You might also notice that the areas that were wet in that last update are now dry and much more matte looking, which is what can happen with different mixtures. And again, that'll all be corrected once I can oil out the thing, be it with some glazes or a final varnish.

Anywho, hope y'all dig it, even if it's not necessarily as exciting as the stuff going on on Bautista himself. If anyone has any questions, feel free to chime in!!

Thanks for reading,

Graig

baseball tourist 01-19-2017 05:20 PM

Looks amazing Graig! Love learning more about your process. I can really see the graduations you describe coming to bear.

clydepepper 01-19-2017 05:35 PM

Graig- Your work is truly amazing!

I cannot thank you enough for not only sharing the details of your efforts, but providing many of us a certain level of education on the how-to.

We will be well versed in the technical side needed for such a masterpiece, though without your immense talent, we would never be able to create a similar results ourselves.

We sit at our keyboards in awe!


Thank You,
Raymond

Kawika 01-19-2017 06:00 PM

The Rembrandt of the Ballyard

irv 01-19-2017 06:16 PM

Looking great, Graig!

Thanks for sharing with us an update.

billyb 01-19-2017 07:35 PM

Graig,
A lot of work in that painting, wow. One hellava painting. That finished product is going to be amazing.

GKreindler 01-24-2017 08:55 AM

Thank you for all of the kind words, everybody! I meant to respond to all of you a few days ago, but things have been a sh!tstorm at home.

I've been able to pick away at Jose more and thought I'd share.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ssh2q9u0p.jpeg

The background is really starting to come together, though there are still some spots that still need to be covered. Additionally there are a bunch of edges that could be softened as well.

I had mentioned in a previous post that the bat is going to be one of - if not the - focal point of the painting. As you can tell right now, it's not. Once the rest of the fans are in and where they need to be in terms of successfully sitting back in space, then I'll be plugging away to make sure that thing really comes forward. That'll happen not only with detail, edges and color, but also with some impasto. I just want to make sure the thing sticks out like a sore thumb.

A secondary point of interest is the hand that Jose threw the thing with, which I'm also making as crisp and clean as possible. I just think that those two pieces are the crux of what'll make this painting work.

Anywho, hope you're diggin' it thus far. If you have any comments or questions, feel free to chime in!

As always, thanks for reading.

Graig

MartyFromCANADA 01-24-2017 02:04 PM

Painting is beautiful...just can't believe the Cop ain't watching the homer???

Scott Garner 01-24-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1623693)
Thank you for all of the kind words, everybody! I meant to respond to all of you a few days ago, but things have been a sh!tstorm at home.

I've been able to pick away at Jose more and thought I'd share.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ssh2q9u0p.jpeg

The background is really starting to come together, though there are still some spots that still need to be covered. Additionally there are a bunch of edges that could be softened as well.

I had mentioned in a previous post that the bat is going to be one of - if not the - focal point of the painting. As you can tell right now, it's not. Once the rest of the fans are in and where they need to be in terms of successfully sitting back in space, then I'll be plugging away to make sure that thing really comes forward. That'll happen not only with detail, edges and color, but also with some impasto. I just want to make sure the thing sticks out like a sore thumb.

A secondary point of interest is the hand that Jose threw the thing with, which I'm also making as crisp and clean as possible. I just think that those two pieces are the crux of what'll make this painting work.

Anywho, hope you're diggin' it thus far. If you have any comments or questions, feel free to chime in!

As always, thanks for reading.

Graig

Joey Bats is looking awesome, Graig! :):cool:

baseball tourist 01-24-2017 06:27 PM

It is very cool! Coming together so well. EXCITED.

yanksfan09 01-24-2017 06:32 PM

Looks awesome, love seeing all the updates!

batsballsbases 01-25-2017 09:24 PM

As I have always said Graig your work is beyond words!;)

baseball tourist 03-15-2017 04:06 PM

Photographer of famous Odor-Bautista pic suing memorabilia store
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...rabilia-store/

Hadn't seen the Odor bat flip-single prior to this. Funny!



Chris

irv 03-15-2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1641558)
Photographer of famous Odor-Bautista pic suing memorabilia store
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...rabilia-store/

Hadn't seen the Odor bat flip-single prior to this. Funny!



Chris

That's gotta be embarrassing, but I guess not as much as throwing the ball away giving the Jays the ALDS series win. ;)

baseball tourist 03-15-2017 09:23 PM

It's a busy "bat flip" news day!

Jeopardy turns Bautista bat flip into clue, but makes key mistake
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...s-key-mistake/





Chris

billyb 03-17-2017 09:43 AM

Graig,
Dang that,s good!!!

Lordstan 03-18-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1623693)
That'll happen not only with detail, edges and color, but also with some impasto.

Can you please explain these techniques in more detail? I can understand how a brighter color would stand out, but do you take something that basically brown and make it pop? Also what is impasto?

Looks fantastic BTW. He really comes alive in it so far. Your skill creating motion in a still frame is really incredible



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sago 03-19-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1642341)
Can you please explain these techniques in more detail? I can understand how a brighter color would stand out, but do you take something that basically brown and make it pop? Also what is impasto?

Looks fantastic BTW. He really comes alive in it so far. Your skill creating motion in a still frame is really incredible



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GKreindler 03-20-2017 05:58 AM

Thanks for the kind words, everybody! I'm hoping to get back to Jose in a few days - things continue to be crazy here.

Mark, in regards to your questions, impasto just really refers to any paint that's applied to a surface rather thickly - thick to the point of where it noticeably sticks out from or off the surface. It's actually an approach that also help draw the viewer's eye to a particular part of the painting. Aside from that, it can help add emphasis to certain passages or edges, and overall give a piece some nice nuance (if texture is something the artist is interested in). I try to be a bit more open and willing about it these days, as it's something that I used to shy away from.

And really, there are lots of other ways to make colors or passages pop. In addition to the use of texture, it's all about keeping in mind what surrounds the area you're trying to emphasize. And that's in regard to value, temperature, edges and almost anything else you can think of. It's all relative. So, if I wanted to make a certain brown on my canvas pop, I would probably a lot of attention to what's around it. Those colors might be less chromatic, have softer edges and/or be smoother overall, while I could do my best to make the brown a more 'colorful' mixture and make sure it has more texture than the surrounding areas.

I'm not sure if this makes any sense, but it's early and I'm a bit sleep-deprived these days...so if something doesn't make sense, just say so!

GKreindler 04-08-2017 05:09 PM

Hey all,

I was picking away at Jose today, and I'm finally happy to say that the background crowd is completely blocked in. Finally. Like, seriously.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps9vrwibyg.jpg

So, at this point, I have to let it dry a bit and then it'll be time to soften a lot of edges back there, which will then lead to me putting more oomph into the bat - that thing's gotta pop after all.

Jose himself is looking pretty good, and it's only his lower half that needs a bit of work - the rest is just a touch here and touch there.

Ever closer...ever closer...

Graig

irv 04-08-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1648959)
Hey all,

I was picking away at Jose today, and I'm finally happy to say that the background crowd is completely blocked in. Finally. Like, seriously.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps9vrwibyg.jpg

So, at this point, I have to let it dry a bit and then it'll be time to soften a lot of edges back there, which will then lead to me putting more oomph into the bat - that thing's gotta pop after all.

Jose himself is looking pretty good, and it's only his lower half that needs a bit of work - the rest is just a touch here and touch there.

Ever closer...ever closer...

Graig

Looking good, Graig! :)

baseball tourist 04-08-2017 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1648997)
Looking good, Graig! :)

I agree! Thanks Graig.

GKreindler 04-08-2017 09:08 PM

Thanks, guys. Hoping I can call it a wrap on this soon - Chris has waited patiently long enough.

billyb 04-09-2017 02:24 AM

That is one amazing piece. Besides Bautista, there is like 100 mini portraits in the background.
Okay Chris, before you get the painting, you have to count how many people are in the background........................................ LOL
Great work Graig. Another masterpiece.

ramram 04-09-2017 01:13 PM

Man, I'll never be front and center on one of Graig's paintings but I'd love to at least show up in the crowd on one of them!

Rob M

Joe_G. 04-09-2017 09:36 PM

Looks great . . .

A neat video that I noticed on Twitter. I considered starting a whole new thread, but this one was just bumped to the top so sharing here (excuse me if this has already been shared) . . .

Graig Kreindler Finishing the '27 Yanks & More

The video provides some insight into the process. Nice Deacon White portrait in the background at 54 second mark :)

baseball tourist 04-09-2017 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1649045)
Thanks, guys. Hoping I can call it a wrap on this soon - Chris has waited patiently long enough.

Good things come to those that wait, my friend!

Not looking to speak ill of another artist (especially when I can't even manage a respectable stick figure) but here is a "rushed" version of the same shot done by a Toronto-area artist that painted it "live throughout the day" at Jose's Celebrity Golf Tourney. The painting did raise $24k for charity which is a great thing. Perhaps, her style is abstract, I don't know, but I can't say that it holds a candle to Graig's work.


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6x6eb9xc.jpg

http://www.imgrum.org/tag/JoseBautis...ityGolfClassic

ramram 04-10-2017 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe_G. (Post 1649409)
Looks great . . .

A neat video that I noticed on Twitter. I considered starting a whole new thread, but this one was just bumped to the top so sharing here (excuse me if this has already been shared) . . .

Graig Kreindler Finishing the '27 Yanks & More

The video provides some insight into the process. Nice Deacon White portrait in the background at 54 second mark :)

OMG! That '27 Yankees team painting. Just WOW!

Rob M

howard38 04-10-2017 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=baseball tourist;1649417]Good things come to those that wait, my friend!

Not looking to speak ill of another artist (especially when I can't even manage a respectable stick figure) but here is a "rushed" version of the same shot done by a Toronto-area artist that painted it "live throughout the day" at Jose's Celebrity Golf Tourney. The painting did raise $24k for charity which is a great thing. Perhaps, her style is abstract, I don't know, but I can't say that it holds a candle to Graig's work.


http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6x6eb9xc.jpg

http://www.imgrum.org/tag/JoseBautis...ityGolfClassic[/QUOTE

The art pales in comparison to Graig's work but the artist looks better in stripes than he does (No offense Graig..I've never seen you in stripes so I'm just making an assumption).

billyb 04-10-2017 07:50 PM

There was a paining there?.......Oh Yea, Howard you are right, there is a painting there.

She also painted her own toes. Is that what artists do when they run out of canvas? Graig show us your toes.

Dewey 04-11-2017 09:41 PM

Showed my daughter Greg's art today. She's headed to college as an art major. Was good to know she recognizes quality when she sees it. She was mesmerized. She's got promise and I hope people see her art more than her figure or her toes.

irishdenny 04-13-2017 09:26 PM

iN Her Defense...

She ONLy had a Day ta Complete Her Work,
THaTs All Her Prison Release Would Allow! :)

GKreindler 04-24-2017 12:11 PM

Hey all,

So, Jose's juuuuuuust about done.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...skdvdlasi.jpeg

At this point, the most important thing that has to happen is for it to dry for a week, so I can then oil it out and all of those lighter matte areas that are eye-sores right now will all be luscious and vibrant. I'll be able to share some details then and can talk about them with a bit more depth.

The plan is that I'll be able to oil it out and start glazing by the end of the weekend (hopefully), and I'll be able to take it to the photographers a few days later. Which means we'll be able to call this a finished painting!

Thank you all for bearing with me in this whole effort, as it went longer than I had hoped it would. The truth is, fatherhood has certainly changed the way I work (and am able to DO work), so meeting deadlines - whether 'real' or self-imposed - has become even more challenging.

With that in mind, I'm not too sure whether it would be fair to you guys to have another raffle in the near future. I know that the time table rubbed some people the wrong way, and the last thing I want to do is piss anyone on this board off, especially since you've all been so good to me for the past 8 years. At the same time though, if any of you have thoughts about it, I'd love to hear them, whether in a PM or here on the thread.

Anywho, I hope you're all still enjoying the process, and I'm looking forward to having a finished, professionally-photographed product to show y'all soon, and just as important, to put in Chris' patient hands!

Thanks, all.

Graig

icollectDCsports 04-24-2017 12:15 PM

Looks great. I would think that anyone participating in such a raffle would understand the time it takes to paint something that's a true work of art. Would be cool to see the raffles continue for many reasons, including the fun we all have tracking the process the winner uses in selecting the image and following the process of painting from start to finish.

baseball tourist 04-24-2017 07:30 PM

Very excited to have this adorning my wall shortly Graig! It is truly an amazing piece.

I have mentioned this to you but I echo the thoughts above and for one hope that you may will have the time and interest to hold another Net54 raffle. I want another lucky winner to experience what I have the pleasure of experiencing and I promised to buy Billy a ticket for all his work organizing the previous raffle.

Huck 04-25-2017 08:35 AM

I think being on the receiving end of one of your remarkable paintings is worth the wait. Thank you for sharing the process.

Lordstan 04-25-2017 08:49 AM

Graig,
Forget the haters. If someone wins and doesn't want to wait, send it to me instead.
Btw, it looks spectacular. You did Jose serious justice although the other painter is definitely much hotter than you are.
Also, why did you not post the 27 Yanks to your On The Easel thread? I think it has been a while since that thread got some love buddy.
Mark

Oh damn. I forgot. I owe you some scans. Coming shortly.
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bnorth 04-25-2017 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1653918)

With that in mind, I'm not too sure whether it would be fair to you guys to have another raffle in the near future. I know that the time table rubbed some people the wrong way, and the last thing I want to do is piss anyone on this board off, especially since you've all been so good to me for the past 8 years. At the same time though, if any of you have thoughts about it, I'd love to hear them, whether in a PM or here on the thread.

Anywho, I hope you're all still enjoying the process, and I'm looking forward to having a finished, professionally-photographed product to show y'all soon, and just as important, to put in Chris' patient hands!

Thanks, all.

Graig

100% enjoying the process. Only more pictures would have made it better.:)

As far as the raffling off another amazing painting. My only suggestion would be to add the expected time till completion. Whether it is 2 months or 2 years, whatever you are comfortable with. We all have different expectations and a soft expected finishing date would take care of the only concern that has ever been brought up.

I know I would buy a spot like I have in the others.

Scott Garner 04-26-2017 03:06 AM

Another masterpiece, Graig. Love it! :cool:

billyb 04-26-2017 04:11 PM

Ben North,
In regards to painting with the detail the last one had, it would be difficult for Graig to give a soft date with any kind of close accuracy, and to put a soft date on any of his paintings would cause him to worry about getting it done on a deadline. I know I wouldn't want Graig rushing to get any painting of mine done. Why tamper with success. No, a soft deadline would not work out well. Maybe a few more postings, but we all know how busy Graig must have been.

In regards to having another raffle, it is all up to Graig, he knows whenever he needs me, I will be there. But he has a lot on his table right now, as do I.

icollectDCsports 04-26-2017 08:11 PM

If I were to be lucky enough to win such a raffle, the only thing I'd sweat would be the pressure of choosing the one image I'd most want painted.

KingFisk 04-26-2017 08:14 PM

Fantastic, Graig!

clydepepper 04-26-2017 10:16 PM

Graig - that's incredible! I almost expect the bat to land. So realistic!

Proud to have you as a fellow member.


I hope that some day, I'll have one of your works to hang in my Baseball Room.


Thank you so very much for sharing the details of the process...very enlightening.


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Bpm0014 04-27-2017 10:37 AM

Definitely have another raffle! Whatever the time frame, it looks to be well worth it! I'm still bummed about missing out on winning the last raffle. If only 3 people at that game had just stayed home.....

GKreindler 05-02-2017 10:01 AM

Hey everyone,

Thanks so much for all of the kind comments, as well as the words of encouragement about the raffle stuff.

I think in regards to the latter, I'll just have to re-evaluate where things are later on in the year or in early 2018. I do try my best to have these things and push the winner's painting closer to the front of the queue, but the older stuff can (and needs to) get in the way sometimes. This Bautista painting was definitely an example of that, and compounded with familial obligations, it just got finished later than I would have hoped it to.

However, I'm happy that Chris will be receiving his painting soon. I'm planning on bringing Jose in to be photographed tomorrow, so I imagine it'll be on its way next week.

Here's the finished, varnished piece:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...siblds9x9.jpeg

And a couple of details:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ssyqzlkjb.jpeg

The fun stuff happened with Bautista's helmet and hand. With that helmet, it was important for it to FEEL like plastic. So, light was going to shine on it differently than it would cloth. You'd have harsher highlights with fewer halftones in-between, as well as sharper edges where those highlights are. Also, since the lights in the stadium are traditionally cooler in temperature, the light on everything will appear a bit more blue than it might in sunlight. In some of those highlights, I played with some complimentary oranges on those edges to really make them pop more.

It was a similar kind of thinking for Jose's hand, but the edges were treated a bit differently, and since I wanted that feature to stick out a bit (since it's in front of his body as far as space is concerned). I was able to play with a few of the complimentary colors there as well.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...sloqkqa0v.jpeg

The same kind of thinking went into the painting of the bat. Well, the same kind of thinking in regards to the highlights and how light falls on it. The tempered wood is a harder, slicker surface than cloth, so it's also going to have light fall on it a bit differently than other materials. I also pushed the texture and impasto on the bat, hoping to make it pop more.

The most important thing was pushing that crowd back, though. That's something that involved more edge manipulation than anything else, and maybe a bit of chromatic color control. By juxtaposing the sharp bat against the fuzzy shapes of that crowd, hopefully it creates the illusion of depth, as well as draws your eye to it before anything (or at least secondary to Jose).

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...sjunwitfe.jpeg

The detail of the legs was to show all of the different kind of stuff that went into that lower part of the painting - all of the different textures that were a challenge to paint. The smooth cleats had to look different than the rough dirt of the batter's box, and so on.

Anywho, I'll post the professionally shot image once I receive it, and maybe some details from that as well.

If any of y'all have any questions or comments, feel free to chime in.

As always, thanks for reading.

Graig

slidekellyslide 05-02-2017 10:14 AM

Awesome!

Scott Garner 05-02-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1657190)
Awesome!

+1

icollectDCsports 05-02-2017 11:35 AM

Great job. And thanks for providing a description of some of the factors that went into painting certain aspects differently. Makes me appreciate it that much more.

ramram 05-02-2017 01:38 PM

Chris,

I hope you are printing out all of Graig's comments about the process of putting this painting together and keeping it together with it. That's priceless.

Rob M

baseball tourist 05-02-2017 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramram (Post 1657273)
Chris,

I hope you are printing out all of Graig's comments about the process of putting this painting together and keeping it together with it. That's priceless.

Rob M

I am! Agreed...what a great piece. Excited would not be the appropriate word!

GKreindler 05-02-2017 09:12 PM

Thanks, everyone!!

And Mark, I'll try to update that other thread soon!

G

ooo-ribay 05-02-2017 09:19 PM

Jose and the BJ's (band name?) are not having a good year.

Graig - your work is outstanding.

billyb 05-02-2017 10:43 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Chris,
Happy for you Chris, one great choice.

Graig,
You are the Master. In 2014 we started the first one, it is hard to believe three great painting have come out of this already. What a great job you have done.
Lets look back at the three.


The first Raffle.
Attachment 271803


The second Raffle.
Attachment 271804


The Third Raffle.
Attachment 271802


This has been great fun.

irv 05-06-2017 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKreindler (Post 1657398)
Thanks, everyone!!

And Mark, I'll try to update that other thread soon!

G

Another beauty!
Well done, Graig.

baseball tourist 05-15-2017 02:03 PM

Jose arrived!
 
W. O. W. !!

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0kvgqib9.jpg12C-E51A-410B-B05D-75E8C2C7C69A_zpsruxokpgp.jpg.html]http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psruxokpgp.jpg[/URL]

irv 05-15-2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1661625)
W. O. W. !!

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0kvgqib9.jpg12C-E51A-410B-B05D-75E8C2C7C69A_zpsruxokpgp.jpg.html]http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psruxokpgp.jpg[/URL]

Beauty!

Congrats again. :)

MartyFromCANADA 05-15-2017 06:03 PM

Love it!

pherbener 05-15-2017 06:20 PM

Congrats! That's awesome!

Lordstan 05-15-2017 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1661625)
W. O. W. !!

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0kvgqib9.jpg12C-E51A-410B-B05D-75E8C2C7C69A_zpsruxokpgp.jpg.html]http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...psruxokpgp.jpg[/URL]

Chris,
Congrats. It looks great. Seems like you are the newest infected with the deadly disease Kreindleritis. I describe it in detail in the link

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132908

JustinD 05-15-2017 09:40 PM

Graig,

It's been a tad more than a year since the last raffle. Now that this has come to an end, maybe it's time for the 4th? :D

I'll take the first spot...

billyb 05-15-2017 10:28 PM

Congrats Chris.

baseball tourist 01-04-2019 03:04 PM

Bautista’s MLB future is an uncertainty, but i share this only to shine some more
light on Graig’s amazing talents. Love my Joey Bats bat flip painting!

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/ml...nline-auction/





Chris

irv 01-05-2019 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1842389)
Bautista’s MLB future is an uncertainty, but i share this only to shine some more
light on Graig’s amazing talents. Love my Joey Bats bat flip painting!

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/ml...nline-auction/





Chris

I was going to post/PM you about this as I only heard about it today.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...online-auction

Glad to see you are already aware.

Good luck if you plan on bidding on it. :)

baseball tourist 01-05-2019 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1842678)
I was going to post/PM you about this as I only heard about it today.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...online-auction

Glad to see you are already aware.

Good luck if you plan on bidding on it. :)

Thanks! The wife would prob leave me. ;)

billyb 01-07-2019 01:31 AM

Good luck Chris.

Forever Young 01-07-2019 06:32 AM

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Thanks! The wife would prob leave me. ;)

Everything happens for a reason...

irv 02-01-2019 04:33 PM

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Thanks! The wife would prob leave me. ;)

I see it is up to almost $15,000 dollars! (last I heard) I am unsure who is auctioning this ball but I did hear the auction ends tonight at 10pm.

How are you enjoying the single life? :D

baseball tourist 02-01-2019 06:16 PM

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I see it is up to almost $15,000 dollars! (last I heard) I am unsure who is auctioning this ball but I did hear the auction ends tonight at 10pm.

How are you enjoying the single life? :D

I’ve convinced myself that it there is too much uncertainty around the authenticity of the ball (oh, and that it is already many $1,000’s out of my collecting budget :)) to bid.

While I want to believe that all parties are telling the truth, the fact that one can still purchase a MLB authenticated, game used ball from the 2015 Post Season from the Jays for under $50, and remove the sticker, swapping it out for the actual ball (keeping said HR ball) and selling the dupe with the offered after-the-fact notarized statement - I just can’t feel comfortable.

Here’s my 2015 Post Season game ball from the Jays. I paid $37 for it 6 months ago.

MikeKam 02-01-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1851287)
I’ve convinced myself that it there is too much uncertainty around the authenticity of the ball (oh, and that it is already many $1,000’s out of my collecting budget :)) to bid.

While I want to believe that all parties are telling the truth, the fact that one can still purchase a MLB authenticated, game used ball from the 2015 Post Season from the Jays for under $50, and remove the sticker, swapping it out for the actual ball (keeping said HR ball) and selling the dupe with the offered after-the-fact notarized statement - I just can’t feel comfortable.

Here’s my 2015 Post Season game ball from the Jays. I paid $37 for it 6 months ago.

My concerns exactly (and I feel you regarding the price ;) )

Not sure why the home run baseball was not immediately authenticated - many/most other milestone or significant baseballs these days are MLB authenticated.

baseball tourist 02-01-2019 06:57 PM

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Not sure why the home run baseball was not immediately authenticated - many/most other milestone or significant baseballs these days are MLB authenticated.

I wondered that very same thing, outloud, with a couple of my baseball loving, non-collector buddies in the room and they had no idea what I was talking about. It’s a shame for the consignor that the original owner had no one in the section etc tell him he could ask for a MLB sticker on site, as it would go a long way to helping many feel much more comfortable with the ball. Perhaps Leaving a lot of $ on the table? Who knows? There are plenty of deep-pocketed collectors and Jays fans in this country.

Little things weigh against this too, like the fact that the “Stat. Dec.” from the consigner has a different spelling of his last name than on the notarized document. Typo, no doubt, but for $16k and climbing, I would expect all the “I’s”to be dotted and “t’s” crossed perfectly.

yanks12025 02-01-2019 06:58 PM

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My concerns exactly (and I feel you regarding the price ;) )

Not sure why the home run baseball was not immediately authenticated - many/most other milestone or significant baseballs these days are MLB authenticated.

MLB doesn't authenticate a ball that goes into the stands UNLESS its a major milestone ball (500th HR, 2000th hit, 3000th hit, etc) and in that case they use specially marked baseballs for that players at bat.. So if the ball does go into the stands, they will know if its the real ball or not.

baseball tourist 02-01-2019 07:01 PM

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MLB doesn't authenticate a ball that goes into the stands UNLESS its a major milestone ball (500th HR, 2000th hit, 3000th hit, etc) and in that case they use specially marked baseballs for that players at bat.. So if the ball does go into the stands, they will know if its the real ball or not.

Not the case. I have collector friends that have asked for and obtained the precence of a MLB authenticator while in the stands with a game ball in Toronto and also at Yankee Stadium. This has happened for a player’s first career HR ball that no one knew when it would be hit.

yanks12025 02-02-2019 05:17 AM

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Not the case. I have collector friends that have asked for and obtained the precence of a MLB authenticator while in the stands with a game ball in Toronto and also at Yankee Stadium. This has happened for a player’s first career HR ball that no one knew when it would be hit.

Ok and in that case its a special situation because its the players first career homerun. In any other case, they're not gonna hologram it

Scott Garner 02-02-2019 07:02 AM

Chris,
FYI, the eventual winner of the ball is going to be Getty Lee from Rush.
Perhaps you are aware that Lee is Canadian & he has an extensive collection of historic baseballs in his collection. It's pretty difficult to outbid Rockstar money and I speak from experience. Just sayin'.

A few years ago I was an underbidder in the Heritage Platinum auction in NY that included Johnny Vander Meer's personal last out balls from his back to back no-hitters in 1938. Getty Lee won both of those balls for over $42K

baseball tourist 02-02-2019 11:38 AM

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Chris,
FYI, the eventual winner of the ball is going to be Getty Lee from Rush.
Perhaps you are aware that Lee is Canadian & he has an extensive collection of historic baseballs in his collection. It's pretty difficult to outbid Rockstar money and I speak from experience. Just sayin'.

A few years ago I was an underbidder in the Heritage Platinum auction in NY that included Johnny Vander Meer's personal last out balls from his back to back no-hitters in 1938. Getty Lee won both of those balls for over $42K

Cool (not the getting outbid by him part, Scott)! Geddy is a Jays season ticket holder and good Toronto lad. Perhaps the ball goes to the Jays or to the CBBHOF for display?

My buddy, a diehard Rush fan lives beside Geddy’s brother, Allan in the High Park area of Toronto and the guys attend Jays games together over various seasons. My friend Dallas and Allan were in Geddy’s “In the Action Seats” for Verlander’a no-no in 2011. Geddy’s was on tour and had given his tix to his brother and they were texting back and forth during the game - Geddy not believing that he was missing the first no-no at Rogers Centre! Geddy’s brother is behind the guy holding up his phone and Dallas is to Geddy’s brother’s right.

irv 02-03-2019 06:18 AM

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I’ve convinced myself that it there is too much uncertainty around the authenticity of the ball (oh, and that it is already many $1,000’s out of my collecting budget :)) to bid.

While I want to believe that all parties are telling the truth, the fact that one can still purchase a MLB authenticated, game used ball from the 2015 Post Season from the Jays for under $50, and remove the sticker, swapping it out for the actual ball (keeping said HR ball) and selling the dupe with the offered after-the-fact notarized statement - I just can’t feel comfortable.

Here’s my 2015 Post Season game ball from the Jays. I paid $37 for it 6 months ago.

I wasn't aware of any of that. I see this morning it sold for $28,000. That's a lot more than I thought it'd sell for.

Hopefully, as said, Geddy Lee won it so it stays in Canada.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...tion-nears-end


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