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vintagetoppsguy 03-30-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PM770 (Post 1396104)
David, I appreciate the all contributions you've made to the forum over the years. But do you realize you have made 5 posts to this thread since your "Big -1" for the "waste of time".

You are coming off as petty and you are better than this.

Learn to duck sometimes.

Now make it 6 posts. I don't consider posting items for sale, listing prices and scans, and then withdrawing your items as petty.

Once? Ok, he gets a pass.

Multiple times? Not petty at all.

If you consider that petty, so be it. That's your opinion. But I'm entitled to my opinion as well. Some folks agreed with you, but some folks agreed with me too. I thought it was over two days ago. I don't see the need to revive the thread two days later to tell me what somebody else has already said.. :confused:

1952boyntoncollector 03-30-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1396117)
Now make it 6 posts. I don't consider posting items for sale, listing prices and scans, and then withdrawing your items as petty.

Once? Ok, he gets a pass.

Multiple times? Not petty at all.

If you consider that petty, so be it. That's your opinion. But I'm entitled to my opinion as well. Some folks agreed with you, but some folks agreed with me too. I thought it was over two days ago. I don't see the need to revive the thread two days later to tell me what somebody else has already said.. :confused:

If I saw a guy starting a thread that I know always backs on cards he says initially he wants to sell, I wouldn't open the thread and just ignore it......next time he open a thread just ignore him..even though it could be the one time he actually does a deal ( I don't have an opinion on the guy either way, just talking generally)

hangman62 03-30-2015 09:09 AM

selling
 
What is the big deal with you haters ! its only baseball cards...lower grade at that ! Its not a major auction house pulling back the Holy Grail T 206 Wagner now

I considered selling..then I changed my mind...what is the harm in that ?

After rethinking..the cards meant too much to me..why do some people have a problem with this ?

People change their mind about buying /selling/bidding all the time

Whats all this nonsense about " wasting our time" ??

Some guys are on the Net54 16 times a day !..apparently they have the time, worse case...don't look..or don't respond if its " too much wasted time"

Whats all this " lack of credibility " stuff ?..Ive sold tons of stuff on Net54..and bought tons of stuff too

Its not that Im pulling a " bait and switch " on anyone..I changed my mind about selling my stuff...and to be honest...the people who were interested and PM'ed me had NO PROBLEM that I changed my mind

and the one guy ( David ? ) makes me laugh..within 2 minutes..he had copys of posts I made 2 yrs ago !...what are you doing ? saving everyones posts on your hard drive...for quick rebuttal ?...Dude really ?..its not that big a deal

If I decide to sell some stuff tomorrow...I will post it..if anyone..all of a sudden " doesn't trust me" then don't buy my stuff, I don't care

Ralph G

Rich Klein 03-30-2015 09:18 AM

people can search on your past posts and when they do, they can see this is a pattern of behavior.

Nothing nefarious on their part

We all understand the mixed emotions about selling items so it's OK to waffle. But since you appear to do this regularly, being called out is also perfectly fine.

Rich

vintagetoppsguy 03-30-2015 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1396128)
and the one guy ( David ? ) makes me laugh..within 2 minutes..he had copys of posts I made 2 yrs ago !...what are you doing ? saving everyones posts on your hard drive...for quick rebuttal ?...Dude really ?..its not that big a deal

No, I don't save posts on my hard drive. The Mays and Gehrig incident left me with a really bad impression of you...so much so, that I still remembered the thread two years later. To some, maybe it's petty. But they're looking at it from a different point of view. They read your threads and it's just entertainment for them. For me, I had skin in the game. I was a serious buyer. However, you weren't a serious seller. You just wanted to yank some chains.

PM770 03-30-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1396117)
I thought it was over two days ago.

I have to apologize on this. I wasn't around for a couple days and when I'm not I'll typically look at all the threads I've missed when I have time (like this morning). I didn't realize the thread had gone stale and I should have.

hangman62 03-30-2015 05:38 PM

selling
 
David,
Why are you making this out to be more then it is.

I decided not to sell my stuff and that's all it is

and stop that you had a " skin in this game " LOL !

I never even spoke to you , your not a serious buyer..your a serious S**T stirrer

Ralph G

vintagetoppsguy 03-30-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1396298)
David,
Why are you making this out to be more then it is.

I decided not to sell my stuff and that's all it is

and stop that you had a " skin in this game " LOL !

I never even spoke to you , your not a serious buyer..your a serious S**T stirrer

Ralph G

I wasn't talking about this recent post. I was talking about when you posted the Mays and Gehrig for sale. I made you offers (posted within the thread that I linked - they're right there for all to see), I also sent you PMs. Yes, I was a serious buyer for the Mays and Gehrig at the time. You were not a serious seller.

Rich Klein 03-30-2015 06:40 PM

He sent me this email
 
"Go search in your hard drive and show me how it appears I " do this regularly" ???

DO what ?, I had a change of heart about selling my collection...what is the problem ? the cards mean too much to me and I changed my mind .

Where is the harm ? Where is the obscene waste of time ? I just don't see it ?"

Look, we all understand that you feel conflcted about selling your items. At times, you say, I have a great collection but it's time to move on. Then when the offers come, you pull back (This is now the second public time and who knows if there are private times)

It's OK to feel conflcted, we all have felt that way. The only thing I say is that it's a matter of repeated behavior and as such, you were called out on that.

When I became a full-time dealer for a spell in the mid 1980's I felt the same way but once I broke the collection, everything was fair game. You have the same reservations and that is fine. But, if you don't want to sell, no biggie -- its just when it will be time for you to sell, it will just be that much harder to take the sellng offer seriously

Regards
Rich

hangman62 03-30-2015 07:31 PM

selling
 
Rich
What are you talking about " when the offers come " I pulled the stuff back ?? WHAT OFFERS ? !

It never even got that far, you have no idea what your talking about ?

I had dozens of guys interested in the collection..and all of them let me know if and when I decide to sell..they will be there

Why are you painting this " your gonna be in trouble if you try and sell stuff ever again " ! STOP ..your delirious !

I will have no problems selling or buying on Net54 in the future

Ralph G

vintagetoppsguy 03-30-2015 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1396352)
Rich
What are you talking about " when the offers come " I pulled the stuff back ?? WHAT OFFERS ? !

It never even got that far, you have no idea what your talking about ?

You never even got that far? You said yourself you had "dozens and dozens of" offers. Here is your own quote...

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1395163)
offers from dozens and dozens of collectors/ dealers/buys/auctioneers,etc...

Dude, you're a nut job!

hangman62 03-30-2015 08:21 PM

seller
 
David
I think I mentioned this before -
Shut Your Pie Hole !

vintagetoppsguy 03-30-2015 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1396381)
David
I think I mentioned this before -
Shut Your Pie Hole !

I think I'll take your advice. I'm done with this thread. One obviously can't win an argument with a nut job.

JasonD08 03-30-2015 08:46 PM

It is apparent that Ralph had no real offers here. I may rib Sean (deservingly so) a bit here and there, but Sean is much smarter than to offer $24K for what was shown. My guess no real interest made so he "changed his mind". Ralph if this is not true and I am wrong you should have taken the $$ and ran because north of $20K it isn't worth dealing with. I would have offered $15K realistically. There is nothing wrong with changing your mind, however, it is America and possession in this case is 10/10ths of the law. Good luck with the nice run of sets.

Jason

ZachS 03-30-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1396377)

Dude, you're a nut job!

http://mickeyfix.com/wp-content/uplo...ck-Closeup.jpg

jcmtiger 03-30-2015 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1396128)
What is the big deal with you haters ! its only baseball cards...lower grade at that ! Its not a major auction house pulling back the Holy Grail T 206 Wagner now

I considered selling..then I changed my mind...what is the harm in that ?

After rethinking..the cards meant too much to me..why do some people have a problem with this ?

People change their mind about buying /selling/bidding all the time

Whats all this nonsense about " wasting our time" ??

Some guys are on the Net54 16 times a day !..apparently they have the time, worse case...don't look..or don't respond if its " too much wasted time"

Whats all this " lack of credibility " stuff ?..Ive sold tons of stuff on Net54..and bought tons of stuff too

Its not that Im pulling a " bait and switch " on anyone..I changed my mind about selling my stuff...and to be honest...the people who were interested and PM'ed me had NO PROBLEM that I changed my mind

and the one guy ( David ? ) makes me laugh..within 2 minutes..he had copys of posts I made 2 yrs ago !...what are you doing ? saving everyones posts on your hard drive...for quick rebuttal ?...Dude really ?..its not that big a deal

If I decide to sell some stuff tomorrow...I will post it..if anyone..all of a sudden " doesn't trust me" then don't buy my stuff, I don't care

Ralph G

Next time go to BST maybe?

Joe

jcmtiger 03-30-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1396132)
No, I don't save posts on my hard drive. The Mays and Gehrig incident left me with a really bad impression of you...so much so, that I still remembered the thread two years later. To some, maybe it's petty. But they're looking at it from a different point of view. They read your threads and it's just entertainment for them. For me, I had skin in the game. I was a serious buyer. However, you weren't a serious seller. You just wanted to yank some chains.

David, agree, we collectors do remember bad deals, took me 10 years to resolve one.

Joe

hangman62 03-31-2015 06:27 AM

selling
 
Joe
What " bad deal" are you referring too ?

There was no BAD DEAL anywhere ..In that thread 2 yrs ago ?...Go read it and tell me what was the " bad deal" ?

Rich Klein 03-31-2015 07:10 AM

He might not be thinking of a bad deal with you, just a bad deal he had in general.

Rich

bbcard1 03-31-2015 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonD08 (Post 1396390)
It is apparent that Ralph had no real offers here. I may rib Sean (deservingly so) a bit here and there, but Sean is much smarter than to offer $24K for what was shown. My guess no real interest made so he "changed his mind". Ralph if this is not true and I am wrong you should have taken the $$ and ran because north of $20K it isn't worth dealing with. I would have offered $15K realistically. There is nothing wrong with changing your mind, however, it is America and possession in this case is 10/10ths of the law. Good luck with the nice run of sets.

Jason

Though my temptation is to let this thread die a most deserving death, I can assure you the seller had legitimate offers. Also if anyone will read the original post, the things that were shown were not everything in the collection, just a sampling, albeit most of the meat. I am sure the original seller had a change of heart and I completely understand. I often consider "thinning the herd" right before buying a new lot of precisely what I was considering selling.

jcmtiger 03-31-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangman62 (Post 1396442)
Joe
What " bad deal" are you referring too ?

There was no BAD DEAL anywhere ..In that thread 2 yrs ago ?...Go read it and tell me what was the " bad deal" ?

The bad deal was not with you. It was with someone else. Just an example of collectors remembering bad deals for a long time.

Joe

bobbyw8469 03-05-2018 03:06 PM

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I will have no problems selling or buying on Net54 in the future

Ralph G
Uhhh.......yes....yes you do.

bnorth 03-05-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1754329)
Uhhh.......yes....yes you do.

WOW Robert you bumped a 3 year old post to be a jerk to someone who can't even defend themselves. NICE!:rolleyes:

bobbyw8469 03-05-2018 04:56 PM

My apologies...I think the "jerk" tag is wrongfully applied to me though, and should belong on another....

JollyElm 03-05-2018 05:31 PM

When/why did Ral G get booted???

vintagebaseballcardguy 03-05-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1754392)
When/why did Ral G get booted???

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=251969

Peter_Spaeth 03-05-2018 06:05 PM

He questioned whether the Adat Chaverim show belonged on the first page. Never a wise move.

Leon 03-05-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1754410)
He questioned whether the Adat Chaverim show belonged on the first page. Never a wise move.

Wrong, however that might have been the final straw. He posted incorrectly in the live auction section and when it was moved started posting all over the place, being pissed off and questioning threads and reasoning. This wasn't his first rodeo either. Had he questioned it differently he wouldn't have gotten booted. You may want to babysit I don't. And Robert shouldn't have bumped this thread as there is a rule concerning saying things about folks who can't defend themselves. It is not allowed and this thread is being locked.


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