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1952boyntoncollector 07-03-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427197)
Yes, I read the thread, but obviously he changed his mind or he would have sent it.

right that was my point...and if he says it again then we already have some history there...

Peter_Spaeth 07-03-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427200)
right that was my point...and if he says it again then we already have some history there...

So what's your point? It's his card he can do what he wants.

1952boyntoncollector 07-03-2015 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427238)
So what's your point? It's his card he can do what he wants.

correct he can do what he wants..but we have history now of what he doesn't want to do...

MVSNYC 07-03-2015 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1427188)
Why give up 20 percent to an AH and risk a weak sale, if you can sell it direct?


FWIW- any AH today would offer 0% seller's fee to auction this caliber of a card...he could probably negotiate to get a few % points of buyer's premium. Very common these days with big ticket items.

1952boyntoncollector 07-04-2015 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1427344)
FWIW- any AH today would offer 0% seller's fee to auction this caliber of a card...he could probably negotiate to get a few % points of buyer's premium. Very common these days with big ticket items.

the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

frankbmd 07-04-2015 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427384)
the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..


A good foundation in mathematics is essential in any prewar collecting enterprise.


TUM301 07-04-2015 06:59 AM

But they promised, NO MATH !!!!!

MVSNYC 07-04-2015 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1427384)
the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

Peter_Spaeth 07-04-2015 05:31 PM

Or one bidder and the consignor. :D:eek:

1952boyntoncollector 07-04-2015 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1427631)
Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

my point was the auction route would be better than direct sale if cant sell the card and have to bump a thread for years with no takers for example

CMIZ5290 07-04-2015 08:15 PM

Please, please Leon....If you have any sympathy, end this stupid thread...thanks

Bigb13 07-04-2015 09:02 PM

You don't have to read it. Just trying to sell my card.

Sean 07-05-2015 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1427698)
You don't have to read it. Just trying to sell my card.

Sell it to whom?

Gradedcardman 07-05-2015 07:49 AM

Nice
 
Peter is spot on !!

edhans 07-05-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1427631)
Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

Your statement may be true for some cards, including perhaps the OP's Cobb. But if a buyer and seller agree to a price on a particular card, they've established a market value for it. If it's sent to an auction house, it takes a third buyer to establish that value. In the case of equally rare and desirable, yet more thinly traded issues, high grade type cards for instance, if that third buyer doesn't materialize, the seller can take a beating.

1952boyntoncollector 07-06-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edhans (Post 1427777)
Your statement may be true for some cards, including perhaps the OP's Cobb. But if a buyer and seller agree to a price on a particular card, they've established a market value for it. If it's sent to an auction house, it takes a third buyer to establish that value. In the case of equally rare and desirable, yet more thinly traded issues, high grade type cards for instance, if that third buyer doesn't materialize, the seller can take a beating.

disagree that a market value is based on a direct sale....a market value for how much the buyer wants the card...however the seller can always say to the buyer 'if cant sell ill send it to a consignor' so the buyer may try to make an offer to avoid that from happening which is sort of market price as well..so maybe not disagree..!

in addition, when the seller quotes a price and says 'if not sell will send it to an auction' and still receives no takers...its probably an indication that hes asking more than market price if the potential buyers would rather bid at an auction of the card with competition then a direct sale.

Peter_Spaeth 07-06-2015 08:59 PM

Jake if you reply to this it will be your 20th post in this thread. :D

1952boyntoncollector 07-06-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1428375)
Jake if you reply to this it will be your 20th post in this thread. :D

so my 20th is just behind your 21st?

823dek 07-06-2015 10:14 PM

"the card"
 
sell it and the over dramatic male bonding stops. I wish you well with your card.

Bigb13 07-14-2015 02:44 PM

Bump

Scocs 07-14-2015 03:05 PM

Is there a price for this card? I would think that if the seller wishes to sell an item, that a price be listed. If not, auction it off, reserve price or not.

In the same way that a store couldn't exist if there were no prices on its items, so too should this be the rule here. I belong to a music forum, and they stipulate that you cannot sell an item on it without a price listed. Only fair.

Has there even been a picture included of this card yet? Do we know it exists?

Bigb13 07-14-2015 04:30 PM

Price has been stated it is 25k

Scocs 07-14-2015 06:44 PM

Sorry. I didn't gave the patience to sift through all the posts. Has the conditon of the card been stated yet?

Bestdj777 07-14-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scocs (Post 1431261)
Sorry. I didn't gave the patience to sift through all the posts. Has the conditon of the card been stated yet?

There is a picture of it on the first page.

Bigb13 08-07-2015 08:12 AM

Still for sale

Bigb13 08-21-2015 11:35 AM

Still available

Bigb13 08-31-2015 10:04 AM

Bump/ Accepting offers

Bigb13 09-03-2015 06:27 AM

Bumping for price reduction msg me if interested

ullmandds 09-03-2015 08:27 AM

i propose this card would be an excellent candidate for a mississippi burning!

Bigb13 09-03-2015 09:49 AM

What are you talking about

1952boyntoncollector 09-03-2015 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1448834)
What are you talking about

whats the price reduction....you had the intital price so whats the new reduced price...

Bigb13 09-03-2015 10:15 AM

I was at 25 now 20 it's a very rare front back combo

CMIZ5290 09-03-2015 07:06 PM

Will $10k buy it?

Bigb13 09-03-2015 07:44 PM

No sorry

Eric72 09-04-2015 07:13 PM

BST thread with roughly 200 responses...interesting. Sorry, tl:dr. What is the basic gist of this particular kerfuffle?

823dek 09-04-2015 07:36 PM

I like the card, so Iam prepared to offer you....
 
a red painted wagon. 3 GI's Joes from 66. Batman 1 and 3. Dinner for 2 at Papa Johns with Peyton Manning. Mark McGwires ist roid Homerun, we have to be close !

Joshwesley 09-04-2015 09:31 PM

I'm late to the party and way out of the loop..
What's the cliffs notes on this thread?

I saw the pic.... Looks like an sgc graded card... Is their something wrong with the back of it or something?
Cobb Lennox would be incredibly rare (I would think) but I suspect the back is jacked.

Bigb13 09-04-2015 09:37 PM

What are you talking about jacked it's my card and yes graded by sgc. If by jacked do you mean the picture. Because this is a real card and very rare only about 6 of them

gregr2 09-05-2015 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1449435)
Cobb Lennox would be incredibly rare (I would think) but I suspect the back is jacked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1449438)
What are you talking about jacked it's my card and yes graded by sgc. If by jacked do you mean the picture. Because this is a real card and very rare only about 6 of them

I think by "jacked" he means the back is messed up/damaged in some way.

gnaz01 09-05-2015 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregr2 (Post 1449472)
I think by "jacked" he means the back is messed up/damaged in some way.

The back is pictured in post #7

frankbmd 09-05-2015 08:07 AM

If you "jack" my Cobb, I'll "delete" your Johnson.

ZiggerZagger 09-05-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1449438)
What are you talking about jacked it's my card and yes graded by sgc. If by jacked do you mean the picture. Because this is a real card and very rare only about 6 of them

I've got the other 5. Anybody wanna buy one of them?


because it doesn't look like this one is getting sold.






ever.

Bigb13 09-07-2015 03:54 PM

It will sell it's a rare card

wolf441 09-07-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1450228)
It will sell it's a rare card

To whom and when?

Just so I know when it's safe to assume that this thread has been put to rest....

Bigb13 09-07-2015 04:06 PM

I have had a couple of people interested in the card. Someone will take it.

thescooper 09-07-2015 10:27 PM

Well I like the card but not 20K like

ZiggerZagger 09-07-2015 10:50 PM

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It's the thread that just won't die. Trapped somewhere between a real live sale and a spluttering death, this Zombie-like thread just won't "go towards the light".

Therefore it is ever damned to be... The Walking Thread

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(*Disclaimer: this thread is in no way affiliated with "The Walking Dead", AMC network, or its subsidiaries. Characters not based in reality on any person or persons, living or dead)

calvindog 09-08-2015 08:06 AM

Lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

docpatlv 09-08-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1450378)
Lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed, very clever Jason!

Bigb13 09-08-2015 08:38 AM

Very cute ah

Bigb13 09-11-2015 10:10 AM

Bump

Wildfireschulte 09-11-2015 03:06 PM

I just scanned every other page in this post - only slightly more fun than doing real work at my desk. I propose that we hold a fake auction for this rare front/back Cobb.

I fake bid $2,000 (kind of like Frank Bucks)

xplainer 09-11-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildfireschulte (Post 1451617)
I just scanned every other page in this post - only slightly more fun than doing real work at my desk. I propose that we hold a fake auction for this rare front/back Cobb.

I fake bid $2,000 (kind of like Frank Bucks)

Frank bucks - $2,005.


This is the most ridiculous thread on this website. Yet, it still lives.
I guess anyone can bump it. But it needs to die. This guy isn't moving this card, even if he has it. And I don't think he does.

He never sets a price.:mad: Last post for me. Carry on.:eek:

Oh, and God Bless.

atx840 09-11-2015 06:46 PM

He most definitely owns the card.

Luke 09-11-2015 06:54 PM

The question is, does he really think there is a single person on the board who hasn't seen this thread yet? Other than attention-seeking there's no reason to bump this thread every 3 days. Its not going to sell here. Its value has probably diminished by 50% or more as a result of this thread.

AddieJoss 09-11-2015 07:27 PM

There are plenty of people who would have purchased this card if the process was normalized and the asking price was rationale (myself included). We all see the old VCP on the card and we all know it has appreciated, but by how many multiples? It is a nice card, but it seems the owner feels this card has the power to summon the messiah.
Cory weiser

823dek 09-11-2015 07:39 PM

not me
 
severely rounded corners are trimmed and never should be graded. Many 1's and 2's have stop sign shaped cuts and the eventual paper conformed to the cut shape . Paper does not disappear unless you alter it. Several 1's PSA and SGC are so rounded and NEVER should receive a grade. I had a guy years backs state that the cards were thrown against the wall and that how rounding became. WHoa , whatever. Leon and I agree the same and do not buy cards like that and we have had a few discussions about rounding corners. I may be wrong. Too,I do not mind creases, but severe rounding looks as such. Too many brain surgeons in the hobby.And I am sure that bicycle spokes causes severe rounding too !

Bigb13 09-11-2015 08:20 PM

Thanks Chris, I do own the card and people on this board have given their opinions on this card and what they think it should go for and I am over by 2k. Some people say 15-18 so I am not that far off. If you don't like the card please just move on so I can sell the dam thing.

chiprop 09-12-2015 09:57 AM

I think people are just giving you a hard time because we all know what the card is worth.

Bigb13 09-12-2015 10:21 AM

That's a nice card, but with mine I am in the ballpark I will listen to offers

calvindog 09-14-2015 10:25 AM

I'll offer $7500.

frankbmd 09-15-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildfireschulte (Post 1451617)
......................

I fake bid $2,000 (kind of like Frank Bucks)


The implication that Frank Bucks were not real is either libelous or slander. I need to check with my virtual attorney, but I do consider this an actionable offense.

Nearly $50 in discounts were issued during the Frank Bucks promotion.

And don't try to tell me that Donald at Disneyland is a man named Frank in a duck suit and not a duck.

Of course if it were, that would be Franks Duck.:D

NB: Poetic License invoked for the deletion of the apostrophe in Franks Duck.;)

Bocabirdman 09-15-2015 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1452767)
The implication that Frank Bucks were not real is either libelous or slander. I need to check with my virtual attorney, but I do consider this an actionable offense.

Nearly $50 in discounts were issued during the Frank Bucks promotion.

And don't try to tell me that Donald at Disneyland is a man named Frank in a duck suit and not a duck.

Of course if it were, that would be Franks Duck.:D

NB: Poetic License invoked for the deletion of the apostrophe in Franks Duck.;)

Neither libelous nor slander here. I just read this whole thread. Will a yawning drool do?

wolf441 09-15-2015 11:08 AM

"This is the thread that never ends
yes it goes on and on, my friend
some people started reading it, not knowing what it was
and they'll continue reading it
forever, just because...


This is the thread that never ends
yes it goes on and on my friend
some people started reading it, not knowing what it was
and they'll continue reading it
forever, just because..."

Repeat ad infinitum...

rocarroll 09-15-2015 11:24 AM

"There once was Cobb from Nantucket...."

Bocabirdman 09-15-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocarroll (Post 1452795)
"There once was Cobb from Nantucket...."

who's thread hung around so long I said....

Luke 09-15-2015 12:49 PM

This thread is an interesting psychological experiment. When I first saw it, I was in awe of the card. But after seeing it posted in a dozens different threads, seeing this thread bumped every couple days for 6 months, and reading that some respected posters have doubts about the card's authenticity, I don't have any interest in at all.

I'm sure this phenomena has happened before in the hobby, but its the first time I've seen it in action, at least to this extent.

Bigb13 09-15-2015 01:00 PM

Those respected posters are wrong the card is very real. I won it in an auction about 10 years ago but just had it graded about six months ago. It was a very respectable seller who I won it from. SGC said it is very real and charged a nice amount to grade it they said because of the value. If you guys don't want it that's fine enough with the jokes.

iwantitiwinit 09-15-2015 01:20 PM

So a guy walks into a bar and the bartender asks him.......

ksabet 09-15-2015 01:35 PM

Honestly the worst salesman ever

Bigb13 09-15-2015 01:37 PM

I never sold before always buy so forgive me.

Bocabirdman 09-15-2015 01:47 PM

No disrespect intended towards the OP but this is the BST for T206. I see no sale happening here but this thread constantly buries threads that are selling cards...with prices. :eek::rolleyes::D

Bigb13 09-15-2015 01:59 PM

There is a price on it.

Peter_Spaeth 09-15-2015 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf441 (Post 1452783)
"This is the thread that never ends
yes it goes on and on, my friend
some people started reading it, not knowing what it was
and they'll continue reading it
forever, just because...


This is the thread that never ends
yes it goes on and on my friend
some people started reading it, not knowing what it was
and they'll continue reading it
forever, just because..."

Repeat ad infinitum...

.

Bocabirdman 09-15-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1452835)
There is a price on it.

Would you mind pointing it out among the 225+ posts on this thread? If you were going to sell it, it would be sold.....

docpatlv 09-15-2015 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman (Post 1452799)
who's thread hung around so long I said....

...pure gold. Thanks for the laugh Boca!

mybuddyinc 09-15-2015 02:22 PM

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I never liked Lamb-Chop.

I was always more of a KFO guy :rolleyes:


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frankbmd 09-15-2015 03:36 PM

Would you expect the creator of the most viewed BST thread of all time to be named Bob? :D:D:D:D

cobblove 09-15-2015 03:43 PM

Ill take it.
Send me a PM and I will pay the postage.
Thanks

soccersaver97 09-15-2015 03:54 PM

After successfully surfing through all 24 pages I can conclude that his asking price is $20k

Your welcome


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