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Jay Wolt 01-30-2013 09:35 PM
Al, well said!

travrosty 01-30-2013 09:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew H (Post 1081213)
I think you need to look further than the PSA registry leader boards before you decide where the 1% is.

It's not really a debate. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
The people at the top of those "leader boards" are really just people that want to be hobby celebrities. They don't have the best stuff out there, that's a fact.

I personally don't hate people who have positioned themselves, in life, where the can amass spectacular collections. I feel lucky to know some people like that, and by knowing whats out there, I simply can't force myself to consider a bunch of "#1 Topps sets", or the "#1 T206 set" anything to call great. I know I sound like an ass, but I'm pretty sure buying high grade topps cards is a waste of money. People are paying wayyyy too high a premium for someones opinion on a card.

Matt Hall

that's exactly right, there are tons of rare, great stuff, not in psa holders or with psa certs. tons of it.

the people on the top of the registry board just want to be celebrities, they want the pat on the back from psa. when psa holds their awards ceremony, there they are going up to accept the award of "best post 1930 but pre 1932 regional drum majorette set" psa 9.9 well whoop-de-do and so what? but they walk up there like they just won the nobel prize for chemistry. they shake joe orlando's hand like they just met elvis or something.

lsutigers1973 01-31-2013 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 1081288)
I look at the PSA refugees as I would taking in a stray dog: It may not have very good manners nor understanding of what's going on, but with a little training can be a valued member of the household. Or continue to poop wherever it pleases. One will get "attaboys", the other a trip to the "farm".

Jim Ma.rinari
Referring to intelligent grown men as stray dogs with no manners or intellect simply because they are disgruntled with the current status of the PSA board is not only condescending but extremely rude. If you love the hobby and this forum, one would think you would welcome new members instead of belittling them.

As for the difference in TPGs. In a perfect world we would have one TPG with a holder as durable as BGS, as classy and stylish as SGC with the resale value of PSA. Anyone that truly believes that PSA isn't the current market leader is fooling themselves or has their blinders on.

ullmandds 01-31-2013 10:52 AM
"As for the difference in TPGs. In a perfect world we would have one TPG with a holder as durable as BGS, as classy and stylish as SGC with the resale value of PSA. Anyone that truly believes that PSA isn't the current market leader is fooling themselves or has their blinders on. "

+1 But as for why PSA is still the market leader is beyond me...with their piss poor grading times/customer service...and inconsistent grading.

lsutigers1973 01-31-2013 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1081481)
+1 But as for why PSA is still the market leader is beyond me...with their piss poor grading times/customer service...and inconsistent grading.
Completely agree. No idea how PSA has survived this long with all the past "scandals" surrounding not only some high profile cards, but also recently with the pack grading. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of inconsistent grading especially when many cards increase in value by up to 50x's for a simple totally objective one grade bump.

Matthew H 01-31-2013 11:05 AM
Selling your collection for a premium through PSA = smart.

Buying your collection for a premium through PSA = ?

ullmandds 01-31-2013 11:08 AM
totally agree Matt...I try to avoid buying PSA cards at all costs! But when it comes time to sell...I wish they were all in PSA holders...but I won't deal with PSA so I'm most likely leaving $$$ on the table...oh well!!!!

Runscott 01-31-2013 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsutigers1973 (Post 1081473)
Referring to intelligent grown men as stray dogs with no manners or intellect simply because they are disgruntled with the current status of the PSA board is not only condescending but extremely rude. If you love the hobby and this forum, one would think you would welcome new members instead of belittling them.
Given their 'pooping in the house', I think his analogy was pretty good. You have created a very poor straw man - as you well know, our reaction to their posts wasn't because they are disgruntled with the current status of PSA. It was because of their poor behavior over here. Personally, I don't think the other forums do a very good job of potty-training their members - they simply drop them off in a field if they don't behave correctly. At least we are trying.

Loving the hobby and this forum have nothing to do with putting up with bad behavior. I've had my wrist slapped plenty of times - claiming that it was because a moderator "doesn't love the hobby or the forum" would be ludicrous.

calvindog 01-31-2013 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1081490)
totally agree Matt...I try to avoid buying PSA cards at all costs! But when it comes time to sell...I wish they were all in PSA holders...but I won't deal with PSA so I'm most likely leaving $$$ on the table...oh well!!!!
For resale value, PSA brings more in only for cards in which the Registry comes into play. For many (perhaps most) prewar issues, the PSA Registry is a non-factor. For that reason, every single card that I submit raw for grading is through SGC. I can tell you that spending 10K on a prewar, non-Registry PSA card has, for me, been a frightening endeavor.

calvindog 01-31-2013 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1081502)
Given their 'pooping in the house', I think his analogy was pretty good. You have created a very poor straw man - as you well know, our reaction to their posts wasn't because they are disgruntled with the current status of PSA. It was because of their poor behavior over here. Personally, I don't think the other forums do a very good job of potty-training their members - they simply drop them off in a field if they don't behave correctly. At least we are trying.

Loving the hobby and this forum have nothing to do with putting up with bad behavior. I've had my wrist slapped plenty of times - claiming that it was because a moderator "doesn't love the hobby or the forum" would be ludicrous.
If not for Scott's comments on this thread I may have jumped out the window at the end of the first page. Please keep them coming.

insidethewrapper 01-31-2013 01:03 PM
Dealer Favortism ?
 
2 Attachment(s)
Look at these 2 PSA submissions ( A) and ( 10 ). Guess what dealer is selling the (10). It's on ebay now.

bobbyw8469 01-31-2013 03:21 PM
Quote:
If not for Scott's comments on this thread I may have jumped out the window at the end of the first page. Please keep them coming.
Darn it - I wish Scott had stayed away...one can only hope! (j/k)

ullmandds 01-31-2013 03:43 PM
Mike...nice evidence...it is such crap...its like the fed reserve printing money for their friends!!!

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1081064)
Eomint came on and seemed to be very polite and measured in expressing his opinions. Others are free to disagree, but does it have to be mean and childish?
JimB
+1

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081218)
Another thing pertaining T206s, PSA is much stricter on grading than SGC. I have many SGC 84's and 86's that would never even cross to PSA 6 or 6.5's....Sorry, but it is what it is......
I need you to submit for me then Kevin. :)

I find the exact opposite I have many more PSA cards that won’t make the SGC cut for cross overs I have lots of PSA 6-7’s that when looked at had minor issues that when crossed went down grades.

Both companies are fine BTW I just think SGC is way tougher and I don’t think I would be alone in that stance.

In terms of returns I have confidence that my cards will get good values and that no major money is being left on the table crossing from PSA to SGC. I think quality items sell for quality prices regardless of what TPG they are in within reason of course.

Runscott 01-31-2013 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1081595)
Darn it - I wish Scott had stayed away...one can only hope! (j/k)
I'm leaving. Someone go nail Jeff's window shut.

ullmandds 01-31-2013 04:46 PM
Totally agree with John on this one... PSA is notorious for over grading. Kevin I kind of remember You dumping a whole load of PSA vg/ex's That were totally over graded... Most of those would have dropped one or two or three tiers on SGC?

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 05:21 PM
PSA 4's??
 
Peter/John- sorry you guys disagree, but I can send you a bunch of scans on SGC graded cards that are incredibly overgraded...I just dont see it with PSA, it's almost like some of you guys lost a ton of money on PSA stock! Also, for the record Peter, I have never had a bunch of PSA 4's that I unloaded, no clue where that's coming from as I dont even collect lower grades...would love to see those as I have never,ever had a ton of 4's....

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 05:27 PM
No stock in any TPG or love hate for either. Picked SGC because I liked the holders, the people and they are close to me. They also do a good job too.

Just saying in my experience I have had equal from both guys SGC and PSA. In my stacks of PSA I have a lot of cards that would never cross to SGC at their current grade due to things like minor paper loss missed, creases, marks etc. Things that sadly for my cross attempts SGC does not miss.

Deertick 01-31-2013 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsutigers1973 (Post 1081473)
Referring to intelligent grown men as stray dogs with no manners or intellect simply because they are disgruntled with the current status of the PSA board is not only condescending but extremely rude. If you love the hobby and this forum, one would think you would welcome new members instead of belittling them.

As for the difference in TPGs. In a perfect world we would have one TPG with a holder as durable as BGS, as classy and stylish as SGC with the resale value of PSA. Anyone that truly believes that PSA isn't the current market leader is fooling themselves or has their blinders on.
I read this board for months prior to registering. As a result, I am unaware of any time that I posted in the wrong category multiple times, called out longtime board members over perceived slights, denigrated solicited opinions, or pretend to have knowlege in areas I don't.

I was mainly referring to the the FACT that the lack of decorum that is prevalent on other boards and blogs on the interwebs, sometimes carries over to their participation here. There is a learning curve that most go through to outgrow the posturing and shouting which is necessary for survival on other boards. Most succeed, but some don't don't even try to get it.

Clearly, I was not calling new members "dogs". And "intelligent grown men" don't have hissy fits.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 1081695)
I read this board for months prior to registering. As a result, I am unaware of any time that I posted in the wrong category multiple times, called out longtime board members over perceived slights, denigrated solicited opinions, or pretend to have knowlege in areas I don't.

I was mainly referring to the the FACT that the lack of decorum that is prevalent on other boards and blogs on the interwebs, sometimes carries over to their participation here. There is a learning curve that most go through to outgrow the posturing and shouting which is necessary for survival on other boards. Most succeed, but some don't don't even try to get it.

Clearly, I was not calling new members "dogs". And "intelligent grown men" don't have hissy fits.
I have no idea what you just said.....Too many beers I guess....

Runscott 01-31-2013 06:03 PM
http://www.toonpool.com/user/64381/f...er_1815755.jpg

Deertick 01-31-2013 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081697)
I have no idea what you just said.....Too many beers I guess....
Me or you? :D

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 06:33 PM
Just one
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081676)
I can send you a bunch of scans on SGC graded cards that are incredibly overgraded.
I'd like to see one. Just one. It has to be something that we can all agree is overgraded (paper loss, pin holes, etc), not just your opinion that it's overgraded. I'll go first. Here is a PSA 6 with paper loss. Probably should have graded no higher than a 2 (overgraded by 4 grades). Either way, I think we can both agree it's not a 6.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse6c896df.jpg

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1081712)
I'd like to see one. Just one. It has to be something that we can all agree is overgraded (paper loss, pin holes, etc), not just your opinion that it's overgraded. I'll go first. Here is a PSA 6 with paper loss. Probably should have graded no higher than a 2 (overgraded by 4 grades). Either way, I think we can both agree it's not a 6.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse6c896df.jpg
David- what about corner wear? Isn't that important?? SGC is a joke when it comes to this....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 06:40 PM
David- Also, how do you know the card was not swapped out? I will admit, one downfall of PSA is the holders are very easily tamperable,,,but would'nt common sense take over in a case like this when you are looking at the card? how in the world would PSA miss this kind of paper loss? no way.....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 06:42 PM
When is the last time you have seen PSA 7 T206s with slightly rounded corners? how many SGC's would you like to see?? I have many.....

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081715)
David- what about corner wear? Isn't that important?? SGC is a joke when it comes to this....
Corner wear is fine, as long as we can all agree it's "incredibly overgraded."

And no, that card was not swapped out. I can show you another PSA 6 with even more paper loss that belonged to a board member. He had to get PSA to make it right.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1081722)
Corner wear is fine, as long as we can all agree it's "incredibly overgraded."

And no, that card was not swapped out. I can show you another PSA 6 with even more paper loss that belonged to a board member. He had to get PSA to make it right.
Corner wear is fine? Really? Holy cow, how many PSA 7's would you like that you can easily cross to SGC 88-96's based on that? You dont collect coins do you?

HRBAKER 01-31-2013 06:57 PM
Hey we all make mistakes, it happens. Luckily most of us aren't experts.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Wills68baz.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...zookaWills.jpg

For those of you who think that essentially it's hard to tell the difference between an 8 and a 9.

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081725)
Corner wear is fine? Really? Holy cow, how many PSA 7's would you like that you can easily cross to SGC 88-96's based on that? You dont collect coins do you?
Kevin, you're twisiting my words. I didn't mean that corner was fine as an acceptable flaw on a card. I meant corner wear was fine if you wanted to use it as an example to show me an SGC card that is overgraded.

Still waiting.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 06:59 PM
David- No offense, but to take a stance that "corner wear" is fine when it comes to T206 grading makes absolutely no sense to me. Yes, I know, there are some members that will insist "if the corners are too sharp, it must be trimmed!" So where in the hell do you draw the line? All I am saying is that if you look at SGC 84's and PSA 7's consistantly, 80% or better of the time, there is no comparison....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:03 PM
David-How many examples of overgraded SGC t206s would you like to see? Start with this one, Google SGC 84 Hal Chase (dark cap). I recently bought this card for less than $400 on Ebay, is this really a 7? I dont think so....

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 07:04 PM
Just one will suffice.

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:04 PM
Kevin love to see some, but Chris is away so not sure he can post scans for you. :)

Also Kevin I will be submitting quite a few PSA 7s this month I will keep an eye out for these easy 88's and 96's I should be getting back from those sloppy SGC folks. Good to hear about this I'm very excited. :D

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:07 PM
David- here's another, take a peak at Ebay SGC 86 Harry Mcintyre, look at all corners....Really, a 7.5? not even close....let me know if you want me to go on....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081733)
Kevin love to see some, but Chris is away so not sure he can post scans for you. :)

Also Kevin I will be submitting quite a few PSA 7s this month I will keep an eye out for these easy 88's and 96's I should be getting back from those sloppy SGC folks. Good to hear about this I'm very excited. :D
John- no offense, but as tight as you are, I doubt you have the nuts to crack PSA 7's! I didnt even know you had any...

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:12 PM
Not sure i follow Kevin perhaps you can clarify your comment?

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081735)
David- here's another, take a peak at Ebay SGC 86 Harry Mcintyre, look at all corners....Really, a 7.5? not even close....let me know if you want me to go on....
Please point out specifically what you're talking about. It looks like an 86 to me all day long. If you do't think it's an 86, what do you think it is?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1911-T206-Har...LN2!~~60_1.JPG

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081739)
Not sure i follow Kevin perhaps you can clarify your comment?
If you want clarification, why don't you give me a call? 229-630-1686....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1081740)
Please point out specifically what you're talking about. It looks like an 86 to me all day long. If you do't think it's an 86, what do you think it is?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1911-T206-Har...LN2!~~60_1.JPG
David- can you not see the rounded bottom right corner?

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081744)
David- can you not see the rounded bottom right corner?
Yes, Kevin, I see that rounded bottom right corner. :rolleyes:

Again, if you don't think it's an 86, what do you think it should have graded?

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081743)
If you want clarification, why don't you give me a call? 229-630-1686....
No thanks I would assume you would have the "nuts" to simply clear here publicly since you made the comment.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081746)
No thanks I would assume you would have the "nuts" to simply clear here publicly since you made the comment.
John- that's what I figured.....

TNP777 01-31-2013 07:20 PM
can we please get back on topic and mock the PSA boards and its migrating members?

:D

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:20 PM
What are you the riddler? Figured what you made a comment I said please clarify...

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081750)
What are you the riddler? Figured what you made a comment I said please clarify...
Why dont you grow a set? 229-630-1686....

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:25 PM
Hi guys. I am not taking sides, or anything like that, but I was actually hoping for some honest opinions on this one card in particular, because I found the grade to be seriously absurd. I saw it the the other day and was actually hoping for some feedback from the pros on this one.

Mr. Mize, I know you have a seriously fine eye for corners and high grade pieces in general, but wouldnt a stain of this magnitude be grounds for a serious docking of the grade?

I am just curious as to everyones opinion on a piece like this, and I figured this would be a good thread to ask.

I feel like I am not grasping the staining aspect of a card when it is being graded.

Thank You.

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:26 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350694389007...84.m1423.l2649

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:29 PM
Kevin it’s not about fear it’s about not wasting too much of my time jawing with you over nothing. I barely see the need to talk to you in this thread much longer let alone call you. I’m sure your lonely, I get it but perhaps e-harmony or something is a better option for you? You can always “bump” your profile should you not get any responses right away.

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

Leon 01-31-2013 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081754)
flesh wound

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081755)
Kevin it’s not about fear it’s about not wasting too much of my time jawing with you over nothing. I barely see the need to talk to you in this thread much longer let alone call you. I’m sure your lonely, I get it but perhaps e-harmony or something is a better option for you? You can always “bump” your profile should you not get any responses right away.

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John
Still no call, can you say "no balls"?

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081754)
:eek:

It was probably swapped out :rolleyes:

HRBAKER 01-31-2013 07:33 PM
Bresnahan
 
I think you are allowed one coffee stain per submission.
Sure looks overgraded to me.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081754)
Derek- I agree with you on this one, no doubt. I am very surprised it sold for what it did....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1081760)
I think you are allowed one coffee stain per submission.
Sure looks overgraded to me.
+1

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1081757)
flesh wound
Lol.
Mr. Luckey,

I would actually be very curious as to your opinion on this one in particular. Personally, I do not care about grades too much, and I do not know if you do, but what do you make of this?

I have seen a card get docked heavily for a small amount of paper loss on the back, and I would like to use this one particular example if I may:

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=8289

The only real flaw on this Waddell that I can see is a small amount of paper loss on the back. I truly find the fact these cards (the Bresnahan I posted above and the Waddell) are considered "equals" in terms of condition to be nothing short of offensive.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I just do not get it.

I would truly appreciate your opinion on this subject, as these are just a few examples.

Thank You Mr. Luckey, and to anyone else who would like to give their opinion.

Derek

Mikehealer 01-31-2013 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081755)
Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John
Now that's funny.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikehealer (Post 1081765)
Now that's funny.
Mike- I was wondering when you would chime in! Boy I've missed you!

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081758)
Still no call, can you say "no balls"?
Use your giant manhood and publicly clarify your comment…or should I say “what I figured”? :confused:

Again why do I have to call you? Are we pals now?

HRBAKER 01-31-2013 07:40 PM
Technically I think the Hindu is overgraded by 2 grades. Might have brought as much in a 2 holder bc of the lack of severity of the damage??

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081768)
Use your giant manhood and publicly clarify your comment…or should I say “what I figured”? :confused:

Again why do I have to call you? Are we pals now?
Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:43 PM
Thank you Jeff. May I ask, if you feel the Waddell is over graded by 2 whole points, then how many points was the Bresnahan over graded?

In my honest opinion, the eye appeal and preservation of the Waddell card just destroys the Bresnahan beyond any words I can even communicate. There is just no comparison in my eyes as to which piece is by far superior.




Quote:
Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1081769)
Technically I think the Hindu is overgraded by 2 grades. Might have brought as much in a 2 holder bc of the lack of severity of the damage??

HRBAKER 01-31-2013 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081773)
Thank you Jeff. May I ask, if you feel the Waddell is over graded by 2 whole points, then how many points was the Bresnahan over graded?

In my honest opinion, the eye appeal and preservation of the Waddell card just destroys the Bresnahan beyond any words I can even communicate. There is just no comparison in my eyes as to which piece is by far superior.
I'm no grader (I don't have the qualifications). If I had that Bresnahan raw and listed it on the BST I would grade it F/G at best. It has a huge stain on it. In terms of comparatives, while I would grade the Waddell a technical 2, it is a beautiful 2. No comparison, but what do I know.

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1081774)
I'm no grader (I don't have the qualifications). If I had that Bresnahan raw and listed it on the BST I would grade it F/G at best. It has a huge stain on it. In terms of comparatives, while I would grade the Waddell a technical 2, it is a beautiful 2. No comparison, but what do I know.
You know enough to know that there is no comparison, and that is good enough for me. :)

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081771)
Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...wn-Shoes_1.jpg

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081780)
I love it, I'm getting to you....by the way, still no call? has all your hair gone?

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:11 PM
Well John, Who would have thought you wouldn't call? How about the whole world! It's amazing how much hot air you have in you while you hide behind a computer. I have only been on this forum for a while, but I have seen and talked to others that you "have differences with" and now I truly know what they meant. You have actually told me about different members "not to do business with". By the way, dont you have the balls to call? I've been waiting...

wazoo 01-31-2013 08:21 PM
This is more enjoyable than a teenage Facebook fight.

Jlighter 01-31-2013 08:26 PM
I think this clip sums up this fight pretty well.:)

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wonkaticket 01-31-2013 08:26 PM
Impossible Kevin my hair was gone long before you. Business, life and taxes beat you too it. :)

Besides if you were getting to me. I would have to follow your lead and send you long rambling PM’s like the below. :D

“How ironic for him(Dan McKee) to unload on me calling me a joke in the hobby and a pussy to boot, when I was questioning one of his cards. But yet, he is always unloading on people about their supposedly trimmed cards. I guess he gets a free pass. Pertaining T206 collectors, my collection is probably in the top 5 of NET54 members and if some members find me aggressive, so be it. I do think I know just a little bit about T206s.” Kevin Mize

You remember the PM’s over McKee when he called you bad names over you declaring his card trimmed. You remember this thread the one that backfired on you calling folks cards over graded again from your computer screen.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=158200

No Kevin you’re loveable and fun because you have so much to prove to everyone I could never be mad at you. Besides how can anyone be mad at a top 5 collector.

Oh and Kevin no means no I don't need to call you..I think you can tuck yourself in tonight.

John

P.S. Again what did i say wrong to you to bring up my nuts....oh that's right I didn't think you could just pop PSA 7's into SGC 96's so easily.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:30 PM
Still waiting on the call John...You are letting me down, but then again, who didn't expect that? You are a pussy and everyone knows it. Again, the number is 229-630-1686 for the sixth time. I thought you emailed me saying you would be glad to air differences?? Dont tell me you got amnesia....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:38 PM
Good night John, times up.....

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 08:41 PM
“Dont tell me you got amnesia”

Yeah I tend to forget things that have never happened sorry Kevin LOL you know how us "pussies" are. We have no differences Kevin that need to be cleared by phone/email were not hobby friends who had a falling out. To have a falling out that needs phone calls/emails to clear up one party has to mean something to the other person to begin with…on my end I checked…I’m good.

You latched onto me in that McKee thread and haven’t let go. Kind of creepy/sad you want me to call you so badly because I disagree with you that PSA 7's easily become SGC 96's. if that's the case I will look for all the SGC 96's in the BST from you in the coming weeks.

Is nobody loving you tonight Kevin is that why you want to talk? :)

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freakhappy 01-31-2013 08:48 PM
Lionel Ritchie<----the dude

Deertick 01-31-2013 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1081808)
Lionel Ritchie<----the dude
Correction: Jeff Bridges is THE DUDE.

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 09:22 PM
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+1

freakhappy 01-31-2013 09:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 1081816)
Correction: Jeff Bridges is THE DUDE.
Lionel Ritchie = The first coming of "The Dude"

Jeff Bridges = The second coming of "The Dude"

:D:D:D

The difference is...Lionel actually performs, where Jeff had to act to be the dude.

Jaybird 01-31-2013 09:40 PM
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wonkaticket 01-31-2013 09:42 PM
Triple Dude...is that like Double Rainbow?

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