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Red COBB survey......UPDATED 6/28/09
Hey guy and gals....Does anyone have a Red HINDU or a UZIT....T206 red Cobb....to report here ? ?
UPDATED upon request to include Red Cobb new inputs from 5/26 to 6/26 across all the 30 T-advertising backs <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Red Cobb....UPDATED survey....6/28/09 ..1....TY COBB back ..1....1910 COUPON (Type 1) ..2....T213-2 ..3....T213-3 ..1....T214 ..0....T215 T206 red Cobb....UPDATED survey....6/28/09 Scarcest group...... ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..2....DRUM ..0....HINDU (red) ..5....LENOX (black) ..0....UZIT ..4....SOVEREIGN 460 ..7....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..7....CYCLE 460 ..3....EPDG 12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 Next toughest group...... 10....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 ..1....CYCLE 350 ..8....SOVEREIGN 350 ..4....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..6....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 ..9....TOLSTOI The easier ones...... 20....OLD MILL 21....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 15....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 The easiest ones...... 53....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 47....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 29....POLAR BEAR We now have a T206 total of 266 inputs. But, still waiting to see a UZIT back....does any one have this one ? Perhaps, the Red Cobb was not printed with it ? ? Until we see a real UZIT....I will continue showing my "exotic" UZIT red Cobb. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Hey Net54er's....this card is not that far-fetched....Cobb is quoted as saying...."Baseball was like War"....:) TED Z |
Just wanted to let you know that at VCP we have added more back sets to track. Before listed as a common back but now has it's own set are..
American Beauty Frame American Beauty No Frame EPDG Polar Bear Old Mill Soveriegn Tolstoi Right now all live listings are showing up under the new sets. We are in the process of moving the historical data from the old listing and sorting and sending it to the correct place. I think there should be good information for you to use. |
T214 input from JIM R......
....is the first Victory Cobb and it has been tallied.
Thanks Jim, TED Z |
tyvm, bobby & vcp...
this will be extremely helpful!
the sole suggestion i would add, would be to split sovereign into two separate backs, 350 and 460, as you have already done with cycle. |
I would agree and wanted to break up the sovereign backs but it is not designated on the slabs. And there are more sovereign back for sale online then any of the others. And lastly there is just to many times that the seller does not post an image of the back to reference.
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BOBBY....re..Sovereign 460
I appreciate what you are saying about many of the slabbed or un-slabbed Sovereign cards that appear on ebay. Obviously,
the only Graded Co. that you can tell which Series a Sovereign card is in (from the front), is an SGC graded one. The way around this dilemma is to simply cross-check the given T206 card with the 48 Subjects listed in the 460-only series. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is a Sovereign 460. There are 2 No-Prints....Kleinow (Boston) and Smith (Chi & Bos) were never printed with Sovereign 460 backs. So, to begin with, there are 46 Sovereign's in the 460 series. Furthermore, the grand total of cards that were printed with Sovereign 460 backs are....52 = 46 (460-only) + 6 Super-Prints Mark is correct that the Sovereign 460 cards are considerably tougher than the other 355 cards (150 & 350 series) in this set. And, the 6 super-prints are extremely tough to find with the Sovereign 460 back. TED Z |
hey ted...
do you find it as amusing as i, that discussing the relative scarcity of the red cobb sovereign 460 back, is exactly how this thread (or it's immediate predecessor) originated?
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MARK S......re..SOVEREIGN 460 Cobb
You asked......
"do you find it as amusing as I, that discussing the relative scarcity of the red cobb sovereign 460 back, is exactly how this thread originated?" Actually, I find it AMAZING....back in February, you and I were discussing the relative scarcity of the Red Cobb with a Sovereign 460 back. And, now look where we have arrived in this thread......truly amazing ! Unraveling the mysteries of The Monster is what it's all about.....thanks to everyone who participated. Thanks again, ole buddy T-Rex TED |
truly amazing !
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i could not agree more! and, what an entertaining journey it is! btw- i can confirm (thanks to bb card exchange) that the sovereign that sold tonite on ebay with no back scan (gai 3) is also a 350. |
Red Cobb survey
"And, the beat goes on"......
Nine more Red Cobb inputs will be tallied later today. T-Rex TED |
Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
These three T206 backs have yet to be confirmed......anyone here have any of these ?
BROAD LEAF 350 Red HINDU UZIT NOTE......The Red Cobb was not printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. __________________________________________________ _________________________ <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Red Cobb....UPDATED survey....6/30/09 ..1....TY COBB back ..1....1910 COUPON (Type 1) ..2....T213-2 ..3....T213-3 ..1....T214 ..0....T215 T206 red Cobb....UPDATED survey....6/30/09 Scarcest group...... ..0....BROAD LEAF 350 ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..7....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..7....CYCLE 460 ..2....DRUM ..3....EPDG ..0....HINDU (red) ..5....LENOX (black) 12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 ..4....SOVEREIGN 460 ..0....UZIT Next toughest group...... 10....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) ..1....CYCLE 350 ..9....SOVEREIGN 350 ..4....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..6....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 ..9....TOLSTOI The easier ones...... 20....OLD MILL 22....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 17....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 The easiest ones...... 57....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 48....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 29....POLAR BEAR We now have a T206 total of 275 inputs. But, still waiting to see a UZIT back ? ? Until we see a real UZIT....I will continue showing my "exotic" UZIT red Cobb. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Hey Net54er's....this card is not that far-fetched....Cobb is quoted as saying...."Baseball was like War"....:) T-Rex TED |
Ted,
Not sure if this is the type of confirmation you're seeking. From REA's 2009 auction: http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2009/169.html |
Red Cobb survey
Rob D
You are the 4th post regarding this particular Cobb. And, I will repeat my prior response...... I have been aware of this particular Red HINDU Cobb; however, there have been some questions raised about this card by two veteran T206 collectors. I'm waiting for a 2nd red Cobb with a Red HINDU back to emerge, before I'm confident about this F/B combination. Four of the 6 super-prints have been confirmed with Red HINDU backs (Chance, both Chase's, and Evers). But, the Red Cobb and Matty (dark cap) have not been confirmed with Red HINDU backs. TED Z |
Sorry, TED.
Next time I'll make sure to READ THROUGH all 170-plus previous posts. My bad. |
MARK S......re..SOVEREIGN Cobb
You noted......
"I can confirm (thanks to bb card exchange) that the sovereign that sold tonite on ebay with no back scan (gai 3) is also a 350." Thanks for checking out that Sovereign Cobb. I noticed it on ebay, and was curious as to what Series back it had. I have added it to the tally. Indeed, the Sovereign 460 red Cobb is extremely tough to find. I have found that the 5 other Super-Prints (Chance, both Chase's, Evers and Mathewson) with the Sovereign 460 back, while tough to find, are more available than the Cobb. I'm not sure I understand this ? TED Z |
Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....UPDATED
These three T206 backs have yet to be confirmed......anyone here have any of these ?
BROAD LEAF 350 Red HINDU UZIT NOTE......The Red Cobb was not printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. __________________________________________________ _________________________ <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Red Cobb....UPDATED survey....7/2/09 ..1....TY COBB back ..1....1910 COUPON (Type 1) ..2....T213-2 ..3....T213-3 ..1....T214 ..0....T215 T206 red Cobb....UPDATED survey....7/2/09 Scarcest group...... ..0....BROAD LEAF 350 ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..7....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..7....CYCLE 460 ..2....DRUM ..3....EPDG ..0....HINDU (red) ..5....LENOX (black) 12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 ..4....SOVEREIGN 460 ..0....UZIT Next toughest group...... 10....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) ..1....CYCLE 350 ..9....SOVEREIGN 350 ..6....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..7....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..1....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..2....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 10....TOLSTOI The easier ones...... 22....OLD MILL 25....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 17....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 The easiest ones...... 60....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 49....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 29....POLAR BEAR Thanks to Net54 readers for providing their inputs. With these and several new listings on ebay, we now have a T206 total of 289 inputs. But, still waiting to see a UZIT back ? ? Until we see a real UZIT....I will continue showing my "exotic" UZIT red Cobb. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Hey Net54er's....this card is not that far-fetched....Cobb is quoted as saying...."Baseball was like War"....:) T-Rex TED |
Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs......UPDATED
OK folks, final update on this survey. I'm reprising this survey for those new members who have not seen it;
and, for all that might be interested in this most popular white-bordered Tobacco card. Twelve new Red Cobb's have been reported to bring this survey up to 301 samples of the T206 red Cobb. A new PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 input is included....we now have tallied 13 unique inputs of this rare back. __________________________________________________ _________________________ These three T206 backs have yet to be confirmed......anyone here have any of these ? BROAD LEAF 350 Red HINDU UZIT NOTE......The Red Cobb was NOT printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. __________________________________________________ _________________________ <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Red Cobb....UPDATED survey....7/13/09 ..1....TY COBB back ..1....1910 COUPON (Type 1) ..2....T213-2 ..3....T213-3 ..1....T214 ..0....T215 T206 red Cobb....UPDATED survey....7/13/09 Scarcest group...... ..0....BROAD LEAF 350 ..1....BROAD LEAF 460 ..7....CAROLINA BRIGHTS ..7....CYCLE 460 ..2....DRUM ..3....EPDG ..0....HINDU (red) ..5....LENOX (black) 13....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 ..4....SOVEREIGN 460 ..0....UZIT Next toughest group...... 10....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) ..1....CYCLE 350 ..9....SOVEREIGN 350 ..6....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 ..8....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt) ..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25 ..3....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25 10....TOLSTOI The easier ones...... 22....OLD MILL 27....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25 17....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30 The easiest ones...... 62....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30 51....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 31....POLAR BEAR Thanks to Net54 readers for providing their inputs. With these and several new listings on ebay, we now have a T206 total of 301 inputs. But, still waiting to see a UZIT back ? ? Until we see a real UZIT....I will continue showing my "exotic" UZIT red Cobb. <img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Hey Net54er's....this card is not that far-fetched....Cobb is quoted as saying...."Baseball was like War"....:) T-Rex TED |
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